Khota Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Nothing wrong with this tweet IMO. He's only praising someone who has taken shitload of wickets in FC cricket in last couple of seasons. Indian Test selection may still remain elusive though due to Jadeja, who is clearly TM's number 1 spinner across formats now. Absolutely nothing wrong in encouraging someone. Only on ICF people take things different ways. Link to comment
Khota Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: No one is done n dusted till they retire...ppl thought ishant is and he is having the last laugh If team getting hammered doesnt make u a great player then lara n sachin werent gr8 coz theie teams got busted most days in 90s Right so u can take around 350 wkts in around 60 test coz of stars But taking 417 wkts in 100 test after chucking is greatness... Wah re hypocrite No wonder icc called him again n again for it, breathed freely post 15 deg rule and stopped bowling doosra when icc became strict again Comparing Ishant and Shankar. You have some serious learnig to do. If he was chucking it would be called a no ball. Doosra was the issue and he stopped it. How is Pandya working out for you? Link to comment
Khota Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Of course. Bhajji is a proper twitter troll and for a long time now, has been jealous of the success of Ashwin and Jadeja and even mocked them publicly. But on this particular instance, he was genuinely praising someone. I am sure he is jealous of a guy who won nothing and has no place in the team. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Khota said: Comparing Ishant and Shankar. You have some serious learnig to do. The amount of test ishant was crap he can be compared to anyone 1 hour ago, Khota said: If he was chucking it would be called a no ball. Not really.....most bowlers were called after the match for chucking 1 hour ago, Khota said: Doosra was the issue and he stopped it. How is Pandya working out for you? How is he not working ???He owns a spot in the team...the team balance goes for a toss when he is not playing Link to comment
Khota Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: The amount of test ishant was crap he can be compared to anyone Not really.....most bowlers were called after the match for chucking How is he not working ???He owns a spot in the team...the team balance goes for a toss when he is not playing Crap Ishant was better than Shankar. If you don't play you don't have a spot in theteam. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Khota said: Crap Ishant was better than Shankar. If you don't play you don't have a spot in theteam. how can A be better then B when B hasnt even played 1/10 of the cricket Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how can A be better then B when B hasnt even played 1/10 of the cricket Not getting into an argument here, but the initial Ishant( since we are comparing an initial shankar) was a genuinely prodigy. So if you compare the two in the same sample space, Ishant is leagues ahead! Khota 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Not getting into an argument here, but the initial Ishant( since we are comparing an initial shankar) was a genuinely prodigy. So if you compare the two in the same sample space, Ishant is leagues ahead! again the intial shankar also hasnt played that much If u see intial shankar was never bad did well in NZ odi n even did decent in t20 not his strongest format did well in Aus home series Problem started with IPl which is not not his format 2 failures in WC .....just 2 So their cant be even comparison in that case. The point i was making with ishant is ....u cant anyone is done n dusted unless someone retires....ishant example coz he sucked for the longest amount of time n we thought he is done n dusted n look now .....guys like shankar or even say rahul havent even retired to pass such statement . Edited September 9, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Khota Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how can A be better then B when B hasnt even played 1/10 of the cricket There is a reason B does not get to play. Link to comment
Khota Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Not getting into an argument here, but the initial Ishant( since we are comparing an initial shankar) was a genuinely prodigy. So if you compare the two in the same sample space, Ishant is leagues ahead! This man has agenda. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Khota said: There is a reason B does not get to play. Yea the reason was b got injured, check ur facts Link to comment
Khota Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Yea the reason was b got injured, check ur facts B still did not find a way in the team. B was one of the worst selection ever. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, Khota said: B still did not find a way in the team. B was one of the worst selection ever. SO ur saying he did not find a way in team and then ur saying is one of the worst selection hows it possible for someone who got selected to struggle to find a place in team ?????? hear urself Link to comment
Khota Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: SO ur saying he did not find a way in team and then ur saying is one of the worst selection hows it possible for someone who got selected to struggle to find a place in team ?????? hear urself So what is B doing now. Moreover he is still a B not an A. Pun intended. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Khota said: So what is B doing now. Moreover he is still a B not an A. Pun intended. Recovery going through the process of A-games to come back like everyone has to be it B or A No one becomes an A without playing Edited September 10, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
MechEng Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 The way Ashwin can get the ball to turn with an orthodox action which Bhajji started to struggle with later in his career shows that spin bowling is not an easy skill to learn. Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Recovery going through the process of A-games to come back like everyone has to be it B or A No one becomes an A without playing No one gets to play if they don't bring stuff to the table. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 8:40 PM, Khota said: Let us stick to the topic because Shankar is done and dusted and Ben Stokes team got hammered. Ashwin is nothing but a very below average bowle who played for India when all planets aligned in his favor. Ashwin - very average. Calling him Chuckbhajan shows your desperation. Ashwin is one of the best offies ever actually and streets ahead of Harbhajan, who did not have the patience to control attack as Ashwin did. He was a good bowler early in his career but got lazy, over reliant on the doors and then did the dartbhajan thing even in tests. Except the problem is, spearing in the delivery with very little sidespin only works if the very little side spin is going away from the batsmen, not into them, Hence Harbhajan was useless for latter third of his career while similar darty bowlers like Kumble or Jadeja can thrive: their LB/SLA is far more effective. I’d say Harbhajan is overall the 4th best spinner employed by India since 1990, after Kumble, Ashwin and Jadeja, in that order. Gollum and Ankit_sharma03 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Khota said: No one gets to play if they don't bring stuff to the table. yea but fact check thats not the case.....he lost his place due to injury A lil bit of fact checking never hurt but saves from embarrassment Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Ashwin is one of the best offies ever actually and streets ahead of Harbhajan, who did not have the patience to control attack as Ashwin did. He was a good bowler early in his career but got lazy, over reliant on the doors and then did the dartbhajan thing even in tests. Except the problem is, spearing in the delivery with very little sidespin only works if the very little side spin is going away from the batsmen, not into them, Hence Harbhajan was useless for latter third of his career while similar darty bowlers like Kumble or Jadeja can thrive: their LB/SLA is far more effective. I’d say Harbhajan is overall the 4th best spinner employed by India since 1990, after Kumble, Ashwin and Jadeja, in that order. Ashwin when started out was fine. Ashwin was the worst spinner in CT. Ashwin probabaly is not even the top 5 spinner in India right now. I will pick Nadeem over him anytime. Harbhajan low was never that low. Agreed on Kumble, he was the best. Link to comment
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