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16 minutes ago, Khota said:

People wearing jackets. Must be cold down under. Grass is brown, no bloom on the trees. No traffic, no food stands, streets look clean. What drives Australian economy?

Sandpaper sales are at an all time high.

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15 hours ago, Khota said:

People wearing jackets. Must be cold down under. Grass is brown, no bloom on the trees. No traffic, no food stands, streets look clean. What drives Australian economy?

First day of spring September 1st, still cold in Melbourne, will be summer in two months. The trees are just starting to bloom, if you go to 3.37 you can see all the flowers. Australia is a clean country, people don't throw their rubbish in the streets. That's how Melbourne looks, clean all year round.

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5 minutes ago, Vilander said:

wtf 15 deg is cold ? Aus has it too easy, there are folks elsewhere that will hit the beach with floral shirts and shorts for that temp. 

but then they hit 45 degree heat in summers as well.  there are folks elsewhere that call 30 degrees very hot.  :winky:

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6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

but then they hit 45 degree heat in summers as well.  there are folks elsewhere that call 30 degrees very hot.  :winky:

i'll tell you 32 deg feels hotter in north america that a 40 degree in south india and a 12 degree in south india feels colder that a 0 degree as well. you are right its just the conditioning 

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55 minutes ago, Vilander said:

wtf 15 deg is cold ? Aus has it too easy, there are folks elsewhere that will hit the beach with floral shirts and shorts for that temp. 

 

40 minutes ago, Vilander said:

i'll tell you 32 deg feels hotter in north america that a 40 degree in south india and a 12 degree in south india feels colder that a 0 degree as well. you are right its just the conditioning 

 

Yep in summer it can get to 49 - 55 degrees Celsius, or even hotter, a few summers ago it was 55 degrees for 6 weeks straight. We had birds falling off the trees, and fruit getting roasted on the trees.

 

Melbourne, Tassie, Adelaide can get very cold in winter, not Canada, Iceland, parts of the USA or even Europe and Russia cold, but temps can be as low as -2 to -10 degrees in parts of Australia. The things is the wind chill factor as well, when it is windy and cold it cuts through you no matter how many layers you have on.

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1 hour ago, OzGirl said:

First day of spring September 1st, still cold in Melbourne, will be summer in two months. The trees are just starting to bloom, if you go to 3.37 you can see all the flowers. Australia is a clean country, people don't throw their rubbish in the streets. That's how Melbourne looks, clean all year round.

Yep, streets are clean, but verbal diarrhea spewing from the mouths.

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5 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Yep, streets are clean, but verbal diarrhea spewing from the mouths.

No air pollution, or noise pollution, in Australia we respect our country and we love our country by trying to keep it clean. May not work 100% of the time but we do a good job. 

 

That's why we love the outdoors, we have parks and green spaces everywhere, our beaches are clean, our streets are clean.

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3 minutes ago, OzGirl said:

No air pollution, or noise pollution, in Australia we respect our country and we love our country by trying to keep it clean. May not work 100% of the time but we do a good job. 

 

That's why we love the outdoors, we have parks and green spaces everywhere, our beaches are clean, our streets are clean.

Yeah, you convicts are quite the patriots, aren’t you? There is only one heaven on earth and that is Down Under. But what about your verbal diarrhea?

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6 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Yeah, you convicts are quite the patriots, aren’t you? There is only one heaven on earth and that is Down Under. But what about your verbal diarrhea?

Yeah thanks for noticing that, we show our love for our country by keeping it clean or trying to. Unlike a few countries people I can mention, who just like to talk about how their country is great, and how much they love their countries, but in actuality they can't wait to leave the countries that they claim to love so much.

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Spent couple of months in Melbourne last year. Good city but incredibly boring and dull. Night life doesn't exist outside CBD. 

 

For most of the residents, weekend means trip to Grampians or the great ocean road because there is nothing much to do in the city. London was much more happening for me.

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13 minutes ago, retired_hurt said:

Spent couple of months in Melbourne last year. Good city but incredibly boring and dull. Night life doesn't exist outside CBD. 

 

For most of the residents, weekend means trip to Grampians or the great ocean road because there is nothing much to do in the city. London was much more happening for me.

You obviously didn't go out much, Thursday - Sunday is when everything happens, even on weeknights some clubs etc are open. We have some great restaurants from all over the world here, cafes, etc. Crown Casino is open every day and all night as well, so not sure where you went.

 

Although I agree the suburbs of Melbourne are very quite, even on the weekends.

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5 minutes ago, OzGirl said:

You obviously didn't go out much, Thursday - Sunday is when everything happens, even on weeknights some clubs etc are open. We have some great restaurants from all over the world here, cafes, etc. Crown Casino is open every day and all night as well, so not sure where you went.

Yeah I lived in South bank so I know all about crown casino and other clubs. And all of these are in CBD or nearby, which is what I said in the post you quoted.

 

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16 minutes ago, retired_hurt said:

Yeah I lived in South bank so I know all about crown casino and other clubs. And all of these are in CBD or nearby, which is what I said in the post you quoted.

 

Yeah, I agree the CBD is good, but the suburbs are always quite, expect some suburbs on weekends.

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4 hours ago, Vilander said:

i'll tell you 32 deg feels hotter in north america that a 40 degree in south india and a 12 degree in south india feels colder that a 0 degree as well. you are right its just the conditioning 

Its probably because of the humidity in South India that makes you feel that way. If you stay for a year or two, your body kinda gets used to it. Once I returned to Chennai, I found the weather to be sticky and sweat more than people who stayed in Chennai. I also didn't feel the winter was cold at all while I saw others with their fans switched off. What is constant is the amount of whining no matter where one is :winky:

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3 hours ago, OzGirl said:

Yeah thanks for noticing that, we show our love for our country by keeping it clean or trying to. Unlike a few countries people I can mention, who just like to talk about how their country is great, and how much they love their countries, but in actuality they can't wait to leave the countries that they claim to love so much.

True that. I can attest to that. I see people around me act patriotic but its all lip service. If you try to keep your environment clean here, you will have a tough time dealing with others' behavior and feel like the odd one out. I have lived in the US for a decade. Once I returned, I can't adjust to living here because of this. I have tried to tell others about people's hypocritical behavior and it had the opposite effect on them. Their egos got hurt and they would not listen no matter how nicely I put my words across. I have stopped telling people and only hang out with like minded friends. I sometimes feel like the man described in Plato's cave

 

I tell you those people living in Australia who say their country is great are the least likely to return back:phehe: I have told many Indians in America this and they reluctantly agree. I have told Americans the ground reality and I returned. Funny how things work out. You must ask these people who think their countries are heaven on earth when they are planning to return back. They will say this amount of years and you must ask them this again after said years :laugh: Challenge their belief systems. At least you are still in majority unlike me who cannot make my point across. You ought to do it to save your country and not turning into garbage filled dumps that our cities have turned into. They will either return back or most likely adapt to Aussie conditions and stop their hypocrisy.

 

PS - I have to mention that India has a rich ancient past despite my diatribe. I'm hopeful that it will return back and save our legacy. But I'm pessimistic about our chances

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19 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

True that. I can attest to that. I see people around me act patriotic but its all lip service. If you try to keep your environment clean here, you will have a tough time dealing with others' behavior and feel like the odd one out. I have lived in the US for a decade. Once I returned, I can't adjust to living here because of this. I have tried to tell others about people's hypocritical behavior and it had the opposite effect on them. Their egos got hurt and they would not listen no matter how nicely I put my words across. I have stopped telling people and only hang out with like minded friends. I sometimes feel like the man described in Plato's cave

 

I tell you those people living in Australia who say their country is great are the least likely to return back:phehe: I have told many Indians in America this and they reluctantly agree. I have told Americans the ground reality and I returned. Funny how things work out. You must ask these people who think their countries are heaven on earth when they are planning to return back. They will say this amount of years and you must ask them this again after said years :laugh: Challenge their belief systems. At least you are still in majority unlike me who cannot make my point across. You ought to do it to save your country and not turning into garbage filled dumps that our cities have turned into. They will either return back or most likely adapt to Aussie conditions and stop their hypocrisy.

 

PS - I have to mention that India has a rich ancient past despite my diatribe. I'm hopeful that it will return back and save our legacy. But I'm pessimistic about our chances

Yes, India does have a great history, but that's about it. My Italian friends just went to India 2 months ago, they just returned and they told me some of the stories.

 

They have two daughters who are 12 and 16 and they told me about all these men surrounding them and taking photos of them, men staring at them etc. They said the pollution in India is terrible, people just throwing litter in the streets with no care, slums, poverty etc, they said some of the places looked modern but that was only 10 -15% . They went to Mumbai, Goa and another place, but they did not enjoy themselves, they said most of the people they met were trying to scam them, kept harassing them etc. 

 

I have wanted to go to India, its on my bucket list, but a few people told me as a solo woman in India it is very dangerous, so I think I will cross off India after what my friends told me and the things I have seen on YouTube, I just don't want to take the risk.

 

I'm not saying all Indians are like that, but don't want to go to a country were there is no respect for women, and no respect for the country in general. Despite Indians claiming that India is wonderful, to me that is just lip service when they are willing to throw rubbish on the beaches, on the streets, defecate in public etc.

 

And the Indians I have met tell me how great India is and how much they love India, I have asked a couple of Indians when they plan to go back to India, and why did they leave India but I still haven't heard anything from them.

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15 minutes ago, OzGirl said:

Yes, India does have a great history, but that's about it. My Italian friends just went to India 2 months ago, they just just returned and they told me some of the stories.

 

They have two daughters who are 12 and 16 and they told me about all these men surrounding them and taking photos of them, men staring at them etc. They said the pollution in India is terrible, People just throwing litter in the streets with no care, slums, poverty etc, they said some of the places looked modern but that was only 10 -15% . They went to Mumbai, Goa and another place, but they did not enjoy themselves, they said most of the people they met were trying to scam them, kept harassing them etc. 

 

I have wanted to go to India, its on my bucket list, but a few people told me as a solo woman in India it is very dangerous, so I think I will cross off India after what my friends told me and the things I have seen on YouTube, I don't want to take the risk.

 

I'm not saying all Indians are like that, but don;t want to go to a country were there is no respect for women, and no respect for the country in general. Despite Indians claiming that India is wonderful, to me that is just lip service when they are willing to throw rubbish on the beaches, on the streets, defecate in public etc.

That could be because either

1. They were creeps. That would be the simplest explanation

2. Lots of children in developed countries look like adults in India due to hormone injected food in the developed countries or India's malnutrition. I was 22 when I went to US. I looked like I was 16 to the Americans. I used to get looks from girls that age. No one believed that I was eligible to drink. Every supermarket salesperson thought my ID was fake

3. They maybe FB addicts who post pics of foreigners hanging around with them. Lots of people still believe that white people are something special and take pics with them. They don't even ask them. India is aggressive in this sense.

 

I'm afraid to say that most of the creepy behavior is from the lower classes who form the majority of people here. They also try to scam the foreigners and other Indians who are slightly well off. Middle class people don't behave that way. You won't find me or my relatives trying to barge into a group of foreigners here.

 

I won't argue with the other things you have posted. You are preaching to the choir here. Its your choice whether or not to visit India. I would definitely advise you to not go solo if you do want to visit. Travel with a group or with Indian friends. Visit the spots you would like to visit in daytime

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5 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

That could be because either

1. They were creeps. That would be the simplest explanation

2. Lots of children in developed countries look like adults in India due to hormone injected food in the developed countries or India's malnutrition. I was 22 when I went to US. I looked like I was 16 to the Americans. I used to get looks from girls that age. No one believed that I was eligible to drink. Every supermarket salesperson thought my ID was fake

3. They maybe FB addicts who post pics of foreigners hanging around with them. Lots of people still believe that white people are something special and take pics with them. They don't even ask them. India is aggressive in this sense.

 

I'm afraid to say that most of the creepy behavior is from the lower classes who form the majority of people here. They also try to scam the foreigners and other Indians who are slightly well off. Middle class people don't behave that way. You won't find me or my relatives trying to barge into a group of foreigners here.

 

I won't argue with the other things you have posted. You are preaching to the choir here. Its your choice whether or not to visit India. I would definitely advise you to not go solo if you do want to visit. Travel with a group or with Indian friends. Visit the spots you would like to visit in daytime

It's a pity that India is so bad for women, I mean every country in the world has problems with rape, sexual harassment etc, but India is on another level, don't think I will be going there.

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9 minutes ago, velu said:

 

her sister likes dil chata hai song :lol: 

Is she a padosi. If that's the case, then pak is ten times worse for women than India. At least some of us admit that our country has some faults. Padosis project their land is pure and is great for women. Yeah pak is good for kidnapping, raping and forced marriage that is :facepalm:

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1 hour ago, OzGirl said:

They have two daughters who are 12 and 16 and they told me about all these men surrounding them and taking photos of them, men staring at them etc.

Where the * did he take his daughters ? This sounds so traumatic.

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7 hours ago, Vilander said:

i'll tell you 32 deg feels hotter in north america that a 40 degree in south india and a 12 degree in south india feels colder that a 0 degree as well. you are right its just the conditioning 

Yes, conditioning while US and UK are in upper region of mid latitudes. I can tell you when I lived in Mysore during winters, we spent whole winters in T shirts while local people were wearing sweaters saying it's too cold.

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6 hours ago, OzGirl said:

 

 

Yep in summer it can get to 49 - 55 degrees Celsius, or even hotter, a few summers ago it was 55 degrees for 6 weeks straight. We had birds falling off the trees, and fruit getting roasted on the trees.

 

Melbourne, Tassie, Adelaide can get very cold in winter, not Canada, Iceland, parts of the USA or even Europe and Russia cold, but temps can be as low as -2 to -10 degrees in parts of Australia. The things is the wind chill factor as well, when it is windy and cold it cuts through you no matter how many layers you have on.

Now that's a lie. Highest ever temperature in Melbourne is 46 degrees.

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@OzGirl how popular is cricket in Australia?

 

In terms of pecking order what sports do school kids like to play Criket, Football, Rugby, Swimming etc.

 

One day when I have some money saved up I would visit Australia with my family. What are popular foods in Australia. Dont tell me you like Hagus.

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14 minutes ago, Khota said:

@OzGirl how popular is cricket in Australia?

 

In terms of pecking order what sports do school kids like to play Criket, Football, Rugby, Swimming etc.

 

One day when I have some money saved up I would visit Australia with my family. What are popular foods in Australia. Dont tell me you like Hagus.

 

 

 

Rank Most Searched Most Attended Most Participants
1 AFL Australian Rules Football Aerobics
2 Cricket Horse Racing Golf
3 Football Rugby League Tennis
4 NRL Motor Sports Lawn Bowls
5 Golf Soccer (outdoor) Netball
6 Rugby Cricket (outdoor) Swimming
7 Soccer Rugby Union Cricket (outdoor)
8 Tennis Harness Racing Martial Arts
9 Basketball Tennis (indoor and outdoor) Basketball
10 Rugby League Dog racing Tenpin Bowling

 

We basically give anything a go here in Australia, but these are the most popular, cricket is only a summer sport here. Should put horse racing in there as well, Melbourne Cup, Derby Day, Cox Plate get attendance of close to 6 million combined.


Swimming has always been at the top of the list, we have world champions in swimming and we top the list at the Olympics Games, there are a lot of sports here, kids are given an opportunity to try everything before they settle on a sport they like.

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2 hours ago, OzGirl said:

Yes, India does have a great history, but that's about it. My Italian friends just went to India 2 months ago, they just returned and they told me some of the stories.

 

They have two daughters who are 12 and 16 and they told me about all these men surrounding them and taking photos of them, men staring at them etc. They said the pollution in India is terrible, people just throwing litter in the streets with no care, slums, poverty etc, they said some of the places looked modern but that was only 10 -15% . They went to Mumbai, Goa and another place, but they did not enjoy themselves, they said most of the people they met were trying to scam them, kept harassing them etc. 

 

I have wanted to go to India, its on my bucket list, but a few people told me as a solo woman in India it is very dangerous, so I think I will cross off India after what my friends told me and the things I have seen on YouTube, I just don't want to take the risk.

 

I'm not saying all Indians are like that, but don't want to go to a country were there is no respect for women, and no respect for the country in general. Despite Indians claiming that India is wonderful, to me that is just lip service when they are willing to throw rubbish on the beaches, on the streets, defecate in public etc.

 

And the Indians I have met tell me how great India is and how much they love India, I have asked a couple of Indians when they plan to go back to India, and why did they leave India but I still haven't heard anything from them.

Kitni lambi lambi phekte ho ji? Olympics mein kya shot put aur javelin mein participate karna hai?

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9 minutes ago, OzGirl said:

 

 

 

Rank Most Searched Most Attended Most Participants
1 AFL Australian Rules Football Aerobics
2 Cricket Horse Racing Golf
3 Football Rugby League Tennis
4 NRL Motor Sports Lawn Bowls
5 Golf Soccer (outdoor) Netball
6 Rugby Cricket (outdoor) Swimming
7 Soccer Rugby Union Cricket (outdoor)
8 Tennis Harness Racing Martial Arts
9 Basketball Tennis (indoor and outdoor) Basketball
10 Rugby League Dog racing Tenpin Bowling

 

We basically give anything a go here in Australia, but these are the most popular, cricket is only a summer sport here. Should put horse racing in there as well, Melbourne Cup, Derby Day, Cox Plate get attendance of close to 6 million combined.


Swimming has always been at the top of the list, we have world champions in swimming and we top the list at the Olympics Games, there are a lot of sports here, kids are given an opportunity to try everything before they settle on a sport they like.

So if I interpret your table correctly cricket is the 6th/7th popular sport downunder. Does not look promising for cricket. Interesting.

 

How about food? What do folks like? I am always fasinated by what people eat. 

 

Do you tolerate us browns folks or you just put up with us. A candid answer please.

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10 minutes ago, Khota said:

So if I interpret your table correctly cricket is the 6th/7th popular sport downunder. Does not look promising for cricket. Interesting.

 

How about food? What do folks like? I am always fasinated by what people eat. 

 

Do you tolerate us browns folks or you just put up with us. A candid answer please.

Nothing wrong with people from different cultures, races, Australia has a strong multicultural identity, we have people from every nation on Earth that calls Australia home.

 

We have great food here, as we have people from every country on Earth living here, Greek, Italian, Lebanese, Asian etc you name it and we have it.

 

Yep cricket is only a summer sport as I said we have a choice of sports here, kids are given a lot of options to try everything, Australia is a outdoor country we love the outdoors, love having a barbie on the beach, we love going to road trips etc, helps when Australia alone is such a big country and has great roads and highways, freeways.

 

Track and field is also big here, the thing is that in Australia we believe in participating, so we give everything a go. I guess that's why we are a great sporting nation.

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7 hours ago, OzGirl said:

No air pollution, or noise pollution, in Australia we respect our country and we love our country by trying to keep it clean. May not work 100% of the time but we do a good job. 

 

That's why we love the outdoors, we have parks and green spaces everywhere, our beaches are clean, our streets are clean.

Or maybe they are easier to maintain since you stole an entire continent worth of land from the natives, and are now gate-keeping others from entering it? 

 

Easy on the sanctimonous self-righteousness there.   Pollution becomes a problem everywhere on the planet where population density is high, and more so, if government revenues are low. 

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7 hours ago, OzGirl said:

No air pollution, or noise pollution, in Australia we respect our country and we love our country by trying to keep it clean. May not work 100% of the time but we do a good job. 

 

That's why we love the outdoors, we have parks and green spaces everywhere, our beaches are clean, our streets are clean.

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and just to put it in context new zealand another sparsely populated country in the same locale has a co2 per metric tonne rating of 7.6 which is more comparable to European countries.

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52 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

and just to put it in context new zealand another sparsely populated country in the same locale has a co2 per metric tonne rating of 7.6 which is more comparable to European countries.

Well to be fair, NZ's climate is more like Europe's - and you don't need to use AC as much.  Air conditioning is a major contributor to CO2 emissions and power consumption in general.  

 

As India prospers, there is a massive need for passive cooling technologies, and alternatives to conventional air conditioning.  The guy who comes up with a marketable solution is going to be a billionaire.   

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This Convict-kudi would be safer in India than that floating jail-cell of a country.

 

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

Quote
1 South Africa 132.4 2010  
2 Botswana 92.9 2010  
3 Lesotho 82.7 2009  
4 Swaziland 77.5 2004  
5 Bermuda 67.3 2004  
6 Sweden 63.5 2010  
7 Suriname 45.2 2004  
8 Costa Rica 36.7 2009  
9 Nicaragua 31.6 2010  
10 Grenada 30.6 2010  
=11 Australia 28.6 2010  

 

...

=92 Greece 1.9 2010  
=94 Montenegro 1.8 2006  
=94 Qatar 1.8 2004  
=94 India 1.8 2010  
97 Canada 1.7 2010  
98 Hong Kong 1.6 2010  
=99 Turkey 1.5 2008  
=99 United Arab Emirates 1.5 2006  

 

Of course the Chinese are buying much of the land/real-estate in that uber-patriotic country, so soon we will be getting gyaan from convicts in Mandarin as well :hatsoff: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Well to be fair, NZ's climate is more like Europe's - and you don't need to use AC as much.  Air conditioning is a major contributor to CO2 emissions and power consumption in general.  

 

As India prospers, there is a massive need for passive cooling technologies, and alternatives to conventional air conditioning.  The guy who comes up with a marketable solution is going to be a billionaire.   

Surely what you are suggesting is electricity use in terms of air conditioners.

 

How you generate said electricity is the key. For eg uk made the jump from coal to natural gas which has resulted in a large drop in emissions. France electricity is powered by nuclear. Australia electricity is still driven by coal.

 

Secondly the type of vehicles matter as well. Suv's will generate more carbon than a normal family sedan.

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