test fan Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 How idiots are Pakistani ?? Their DGISPR urf gafoora told us we don't use F16 that day but now on Sargodha air base they written we use f16 Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I watched this new series called the spy which is about an Israeli infiltrating highest level of Syrian regime. There is a scene where syrian are seen celebrating on streets a successful military strike against Israelis. They also display dead bodies of israeli soldiers. Cut few scenes later in a closed room military discussion one comes to know how israelis basically beat the **** out of syrain army and the dead soldiers were actually syrian casualties dressed in Israeli army uniform. Laaloo, adi B, Gollum and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: I watched this new series called the spy which is about an Israeli infiltrating highest level of Syrian regime. There is a scene where syrian are seen celebrating on streets a successful military strike against Israelis. They also display dead bodies of israeli soldiers. Cut few scenes later in a closed room military discussion one comes to know how israelis basically beat the **** out of syrain army and the dead soldiers were actually syrian casualties dressed in Israeli army uniform. Thanks man. Surely going to watch it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Better to trust Indian statements all althoughout.....1. they said 2 pilots captured, then said 1 captured. 2. Said no f16 used, now this. 3. Said no losses in balakot, yet took 45 days to take journalists there. Indian army since day 1 has been saying the terror training targets were successfully hit in balakot and 1 F16 was downed by wing co. Abhinandan and team. I mean you kill 40+ Indian soldiers (in Pulwama) and believe that India(a country which broke u into 2 inside 13 days, taking 93k POWs) didn't take revenge and that instead you downed 1 fighter plane, how even Pakistanis believe this is strange to me... dial_100, sergio04, velu and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, RanveerSingh said: Facts are stronger on Pakistani side: 1. They released a video footage. India had nothing to show. 2. Pakistani destroyed one Mig 21 and captured Abhinandan 3. Indian claim of destroying F16 has no back up so far. 4. India end up shooting its own Chopper and killing 6 air force men. 5. Killing of 300 Jaish terrorist has no match on the ground facts. Modi and Godi media has played Balakot like a victory but in reality India got humiliated. It got to a point where Releasing of captured pilot from Pakistan was played like victory. Just like demonetization and GST, Balakot was another failure of Modi. If India had won the Balakot Modi and Godi media would have playing this card till now. Except the chopper crash, action happened in Pakistan controlled area... 1. The thing that was reasonably clear through eye witness comments and through Pakistani authorities that 2 fighter aircrafts were downed that day. 2. Even the US wouldn't want the news of one of its best fighter aircrafts crashed, being out there...so if India had more sensitive or damning proof, India may not have purposely released it. 3. India didn't say 300 men killed, there were news reports floated that NTRO detected those many active sim cards on targeted hilltop. Also, the fact that Spice 2000s don't bring to ground the buildings, rather kill the people inside penetrating through the roof. 4. The indian air chief emphatically said many times that they hit the intended target. IAF do not have the history of lying. Imran says something even more khaufnaak than balakot planned for PoK. Why is he saying this if only a couple of trees destroyed? Even after Uri( where arnd 20 soldiers were Martyred), Pakistan said surgical strikes were a hoax. You think India despite being much stronger, on a entirely different level, let's Pakistan get away with these attacks? Edited September 15, 2019 by randomGuy Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 "Our ground forces arrested two pilots; one of them was injured and has been shifted to CMH [Combined Military Hospital] and, God-willing, he will be taken care of," said the army official. "The other one is with us." Where is the pilot shifted to the hospital as per ghafoor Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, RanveerSingh said: Facts are stronger on Pakistani side: 1. They released a video footage. India had nothing to show. 2. Pakistani destroyed one Mig 21 and captured Abhinandan 3. Indian claim of destroying F16 has no back up so far. 4. India end up shooting its own Chopper and killing 6 air force men. 5. Killing of 300 Jaish terrorist has no match on the ground facts. Modi and Godi media has played Balakot like a victory but in reality India got humiliated. It got to a point where Releasing of captured pilot from Pakistan was played like victory. Just like demonetization and GST, Balakot was another failure of Modi. If India had won the Balakot Modi and Godi media would have playing this card till now. STFU. 1. They released a video footage. India had nothing to show. they said two fighters downed , two pilots captured. where is the second ? doosra bandha ?? got lynched by locals and was hidden. 2. Pakistani destroyed one Mig 21 and captured Abhinandan 3. Indian claim of destroying F16 has no back up so far. IAF released several pieces of evidence, if you are too noob to understand read through it here. Every military enthusiast level to professional understands this. https://theprint.in/defence/8-pieces-of-clinching-evidence-that-show-how-iafs-abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/ 4. India end up shooting its own Chopper and killing 6 air force men. This is true and has lead to SOP changes. 5. Killing of 300 Jaish terrorist has no match on the ground facts. what is match on ground facts ? did you pull that from your arse ? Laaloo, Gollum, dial_100 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: "Our ground forces arrested two pilots; one of them was injured and has been shifted to CMH [Combined Military Hospital] and, God-willing, he will be taken care of," said the army official. "The other one is with us." Where is the pilot shifted to the hospital as per ghafoor doosra bandha got lynched since he looked like a sardar to locals, but he was pak pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: "Our ground forces arrested two pilots; one of them was injured and has been shifted to CMH [Combined Military Hospital] and, God-willing, he will be taken care of," said the army official. "The other one is with us." Where is the pilot shifted to the hospital as per ghafoor How dare you accuse pak army of lying. You are one of those with agenda against pak who believes osama was in pak when reality is that US staged 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 PAF hit AARAMS from their f16s when Abhi turned tail to get away after hitting the f16 , he got hit as mig 21 missiles are not good enough in range. Its simple story of absolute disregard to own saftey and badassary from Abhinandan. Learn to know facts from propaganda. @RanveerSingh concern troll padosi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 radar track vanished in indian AWACS and IACCS, lol and here there are trolls peddling propaganda.. keep all this delay confuse deny **** to actual defense forums this is forum for uncles discussing cricket and chai biscuit please spare us the BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1) One thing 99.99 % people don't know is that Pak fired AMRAAMS from atleast 20 Kms within their territory - whereas India cross the LoC. 2) For 47 days they did not allow any international media to visit the Balakot site that IAF bombed, why such a long time ? There was absolute damage and carnage. If there was none, why did PAF shut its airspace and issue notams for 3 months after that. It rattled the hell out of them 3) PAF currently has an advantage in BVR combat because AIM AMRAAMS have a longer range than R77s and R73s that IAF planes use. METEOR missiles that come with Rafale's have a longer ranger and are more potent than AIM AMRAAMS. This will be the end of Pak's advantage and they will not be airborne again the way they were once METEOR missiles are installed on Indian planes. Our Mirage 2000's could have been equipped with METEOR missiles earlier to have the BVR advantange and IAF is now about to do it...after this experience. We need to have atleast 5 quadrons that have an absolute advantage in BVR combat as the age of dog fights is over. G_B_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Adding to the contribution of posters here, just a friendly reminder about the nature of the enemy. Repeating an earlier post of mine from that Balakot air strikes thread. On 3/2/2019 at 12:31 AM, Gollum said: Dec 3, 1971 Dec 16, 1971 PAKISTANIS ARE PATHOLOGICAL LIARS Edited September 15, 2019 by Gollum Norman, Pandya_Power, Vilander and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, Vilander said: STFU. 1. They released a video footage. India had nothing to show. they said two fighters downed , two pilots captured. where is the second ? doosra bandha ?? got lynched by locals and was hidden. 2. Pakistani destroyed one Mig 21 and captured Abhinandan 3. Indian claim of destroying F16 has no back up so far. IAF released several pieces of evidence, if you are too noob to understand read through it here. Every military enthusiast level to professional understands this. https://theprint.in/defence/8-pieces-of-clinching-evidence-that-show-how-iafs-abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/ 4. India end up shooting its own Chopper and killing 6 air force men. This is true and has lead to SOP changes. 5. Killing of 300 Jaish terrorist has no match on the ground facts. what is match on ground facts ? did you pull that from your arse ? calm down guys. non-stop balakot balakot ... The reality is Indian fighter jets uprooted few trees and we have seen the pictures of them. Now pak did not want to parade international media in a barren land with no trees or no vegetation. They took 2-3 months to plant some new trees, shrubs etc. so that the area is presentable. They did eventually show the madarsa jhap school being run there and so what didnt allow anything else. As long as Bakis have proof, we cannot qustion them any more. They have a proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: 1) One thing 99.99 % people don't know is that Pak fired AMRAAMS from atleast 20 Kms within their territory - whereas India cross the LoC. 2) For 47 days they did not allow any international media to visit the Balakot site that IAF bombed, why such a long time ? There was absolute damage and carnage. If there was none, why did PAF shut its airspace and issue notams for 3 months after that. It rattled the hell out of them 3) PAF currently has an advantage in BVR combat because AIM AMRAAMS have a longer range than R77s and R73s that IAF planes use. METEOR missiles that come with Rafale's have a longer ranger and are more potent than AIM AMRAAMS. This will be the end of Pak's advantage and they will not be airborne again the way they were once METEOR missiles are installed on Indian planes. Our Mirage 2000's could have been equipped with METEOR missiles earlier to have the BVR advantange and IAF is now about to do it...after this experience. We need to have atleast 5 quadrons that have an absolute advantage in BVR combat as the age of dog fights is over. Su30 and mig29 got bvr upgrades guess it's stop gap till meteor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Vilander said: Su30 and mig29 got bvr upgrades guess it's stop gap till meteor. Meteor will not work on Russian platforms like su30 and mig29. France will never allow it and NATO will certainly not. Mirage2000 are the only old planes that can be be upgraded with Meteors. This is just like the Israeli spice2000 bombs. Only the mirage2000 could deliver them in Balakot as they don’t work on our Russian planes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Meteor will not work on Russian platforms like su30 and mig29. France will never allow it and NATO will certainly not. Mirage2000 are the only old planes that can be be upgraded with Meteors. This is just like the Israeli spice2000 bombs. Only the mirage2000 could deliver them in Balakot as they don’t work on our Russian planes meteor on rafale guess its 150km.. su30 and mig29 got r-77-1 that 110km bvr. https://www.janes.com/article/90192/india-signs-usd700-million-deal-with-russia-for-1-000-additional-air-to-air-missiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Meteor will not work on Russian platforms i never said it will , i said India got russian bvr upgrades till we get meteor ( which has greater range) and can counter pak f-16 aim-120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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