veer Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Easy in theory but harder to digest for both the sides: India keeps IOK Give POK to pakistan Let Azad Kashmir be Azad And put a disclaimer that whoever wants to join Pak from IOK can move to other side or forever hold the peace... This will stop draining us, India, with money... Of course this will be huge sacrifice that India/BJP/Modi will have to make... But, honestly, I don't see we would get POK back without going into war with Pak.. n that will be too costly.. and, as an Indian, I don't feel any connection with POK to sacrifice our soldiers and money for.. Let's move on to better things.. we need to progress as a country and invest in better things.. Edited September 15, 2019 by veer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Pakistan will never go to full fledged war with India for Kashmiri. Despite all crocodile tears, it will not let a single Kashmiri cross its side of border. So only solution is create a path to Afghanistan by acquiring uninhabited land of PoK and cutoff supply line to china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, mishra said: Pakistan will never go to full fledged war with India for Kashmiri. Despite all crocodile tears, it will not let a single Kashmiri cross its side of border. So only solution is create a path to Afghanistan by acquiring uninhabited land of PoK and cutoff supply line to china Kya kuch bhi... None of the sides will initiate the war and it could drag on and on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, veer said: Kya kuch bhi... None of the sides will initiate the war and it could drag on and on... “Kuchh bi” tab hotaa If i would have asked for whole of Kashmir. That will require some muscle, diplomacy and money. I am asking for uninhabited land which provides us access and cuts of China. This is not impossible. Anything less, we are diplomatically naive and wasted 70 years of struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I agree best solution, Make LOC international border. Vilander, MechEng, coffee_rules and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, panther said: I agree best solution, Make LOC international border. First time agree with you. After this no terrorism, and then there will be real Aman Ki Asha or Rajesh Ki Rukhsana or vice versa. Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, mishra said: “Kuchh bi” tab hotaa If i would have asked for whole of Kashmir. That will require some muscle, diplomacy and money. I am asking for uninhabited land which provides us access and cuts of China. This is not impossible. Anything less, we are diplomatically naive and wasted 70 years of struggle I am more for not wasting next 70 years on this.. but what you are saying is another open conflict with us pulling China in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 when Pakistan gets freedom from its army .. mishra and randomGuy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaz1 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Yes lets end this arguement. No need for Pakistan to be India’s ex girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonomous Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I agree with this solution as well. Seems practical and mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Loc to border simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 More difficult will be India China. May be give twang take south face access to mansorovar in return and make line of control border and join belt road with separate trade agreement that counters dumping. That should do it. Do all this before China becomes absolute super power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Can't give up on POK. Entire Kashmir was signed to India. Kashmir Hamara hain, Kashmiri Sunni Muslims ko lelo..as per partition, Muslims migrated to Pak, let them go bhaad mein that is Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, velu said: when Pakistan gets freedom from its army bd has no army, india(modi govt) even gave them land for border settlement , it's growing. Pakistan army it seems is bell bent on losing pok, Gilgit baltistan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Vilander said: More difficult will be India China. May be give twang take south face access to mansorovar in return and make line of control border and join belt road with separate trade agreement that counters dumping. That should do it. Do all this before China becomes absolute super power. You are living in a fools paradise. No compromise with China as it will embolden their rogue govt. You can not negotiate with thugs. China’s downfall is certainly imminent, their economic numbers are all cooked up. Their capex and export oriented economy has run its course. And US is absolutely determined to end Chinas trade abuse practices. China has no one but a half hearted Russia that needs Chinese money to buy oil. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 @veer sigh Pakistan Army’s bread and butter is Kashmir. If they agree to what you said how can they get paid and get money from their government. Pakistan Army feeds on fear of Indian Army in their Awwam. If you make peace do you really think they will get monies ? They like to control over their democratic institutions and use proxies to their advantage. They will never let it go. Norman and velu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Major Gaurav Arya is fighting a brilliant social media campaign against Pak. He is a huge hit with Pak common man. He has used twitter to troll and suck them in.. And now is using YouTube videos to expose and nail Pak army for being a dud, lying army that has looted Pak for 72 years. Must watch videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, gattaca said: @veer sigh Pakistan Army’s bread and butter is Kashmir. If they agree to what you said how can they get paid and get money from their government. Pakistan Army feeds on fear of Indian Army in their Awwam. If you make peace do you really think they will get monies ? They like to control over their democratic institutions and use proxies to their advantage. They will never let it go. Well.. then more power to us and too bad for them.. this should be our stand and let them scream from roof top if they want.. but we, as a nation, gotta move on and not to spend any more life, money, energy on POK or Azad Kashmir... And pak is pak.. they will be crying and playing victim to the world forever... that's in their blood that's their problem and not ours... We have to progress as a country.. other states and other areas should get those resources. Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) One interesting thing about this region PoK is that they have almost nothing in common with Kashmir valley people except Sunni Islam. Their language is not Kashmiri. They speak Pahari or Poonchi language which is spoken in Jammu region. So these were essentially part of Jammu regions which were captured by Pakistan. Edited September 16, 2019 by Number randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Azad Kashmir and POK is the same thing. OP has missed the Nobel peace prize for the tastiest Khayali pulao on technicality . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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