cowboysfan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: All these threads are useless. We aren’t win t20 cup next year irrespective of who we play. T20 is a crap shot,we just need to get into the semis.only team clearly better than us in this format is England. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: T20 is a crap shot,we just need to get into the semis.only team clearly better than us in this format is England. Forgetting Aussies at home. Kiwis have a decent t20 side. Rohit kohli have hit some block neither will perform in a key game. Link to comment
velu Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, New guy said: Imagine you are a new joinee in a MNC. There is a senior who worked on the same project whom the bosses love. As soon as you join there is only public praise of the senior and public criticism of you as a new joinee. Everyone is after you, waiting for you to make mistakes so that they could sack you and hire the old guy back. Will you make more mistakes or less in such a toxic environment? that senior might have done some terrific job for their project Link to comment
Laaloo Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, retired_hurt said: Isn't the criticism justified? He keeps trying to play cheeky shots and loses his wicket. Lost the T20 match against Australia at the start of the year from a winning position. I am all for backing youngsters but they should be criticised for throwing their wicket away. Thala has 0 MOM awards in 89 T20 internationals. Time and time again he has been embarassed in T20 internationals. How come he was never criticized in the media? beetle, bahubali, putrevus and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 To Thala and his pets(Kooli,Bevada,MSK) bahubali 1 Link to comment
retired_hurt Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Laaloo said: Thala has 0 MOM awards in 89 T20 internationals. Time and time again he has been embarassed in T20 internationals. How come he was never criticized in the media? May be because Dhoni was already an established player in Odis and tests before he started playing T20s. Anyway we are digressing, I don't have answer to why Dhoni wasn't criticised. All I am saying is Pant wouldn't be criticised if he starts being more consistent. Link to comment
retired_hurt Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 hours ago, New guy said: Imagine you are a new joinee in a MNC. There is a senior who worked on the same project whom the bosses love. As soon as you join there is only public praise of the senior and public criticism of you as a new joinee. Everyone is after you, waiting for you to make mistakes so that they could sack you and hire the old guy back. Will you make more mistakes or less in such a toxic environment? Look I am not defending Dhoni here, as a well wisher of Indian cricket I want him gone too. But let's not make Pant a Messiah. He has bad temperament, poor match awareness and above all, poor technique as a wicket keeper. Only a select few get the chance to represent India at international level. If Pant doesn't perform up to the expectations, there is no harm in giving chance to another keeper who has done well in domestic matches. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
retired_hurt Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, mani sha said: This isn’t criticism - this is bullying in t20 wickets not as much valuable as strike rate- pant plays correct and as per his strength . What shastri is doing is nothing but gutter politics . U can give feedback in private - imagine a dravid or a kumble ever saying something like this - all the good guys have been kept out and it’s a corrupt couturie running the show I haven't forgiven Kohli and Shastri for publically criticising Pujara and justifying dropping him for playing too slowly. They have their own agendas and I have little time for them. But as a fan, I can certainly criticise Pant if he isn't winning matches for us. Link to comment
retired_hurt Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: every youngsters throws his wkt at start, sehwag did all his life. Thats his game....the days it comes off it looks great but it has a flip side to the day it doesnt come off He is an impact player....shudnt expect consistency from him. Neither was gilly, sehwag, jayasuria consistent If u want consistency that will come at cost of impact .......We already have rohit, kohli, dhawan now lets not make someone bat ni their mould. Ppl want some one to tonk from ball 1 but on most days it doesnt come off......so if u want that expect the other side as well Sehwag had a decent defense and he avoided playing cross batted hoicks. But yes he did frustrate us by throwing his wicket. And some leeway can be given to Pant as well because he is young and will time to settle down. But as I read earlier on Cricinfo that there is difference between being fearless and careless. Whatever I have seen of Pant in Australia and in West Indies, I have found his shot selections to be infuriating. He is talented so he would be backed but there are other players waiting for their chance as well. If Pant can't win us matches more often, those players deserve to get a chance ahead of Pant. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, retired_hurt said: Sehwag had a decent defense and he avoided playing cross batted hoicks. But yes he did frustrate us by throwing his wicket. And some leeway can be given to Pant as well because he is young and will time to settle down. Pant has a very good defense to ....he looked the most comfertable when every one struggling in semi final against NZ 10 minutes ago, retired_hurt said: But as I read earlier on Cricinfo that there is difference between being fearless and careless. Whatever I have seen of Pant in Australia and in West Indies, I have found his shot selections to be infuriating. Thats rathore statement Diff btw careless n fearless is result....when it comes off ppl say it was genius when it doesnt ppl say what a fool 10 minutes ago, retired_hurt said: He is talented so he would be backed but there are other players waiting for their chance as well. If Pant can't win us matches more often, those players deserve to get a chance ahead of Pant. 1st lets back pant properly then lets come to others....even kishen n samson will go through same Mosher and beetle 2 Link to comment
The Realist Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Not one young player has truly flourished under the toxic environment of Captain Phillips & his drunken obese Cheerleader. Young players are hardly ever selected & if they are then constantly undermined until they lose confidence & their place in the side. Forever Indian, Mosher, beetle and 2 others 5 Link to comment
mani sha Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 14 hours ago, Vilander said: they can try Ishan Kishan or Sanju Samson if Pant is indeed not suited for t20s keep him as test specialist. That’s not what they want - *ers want dhoni in beetle, Mosher, bahubali and 1 other 4 Link to comment
mani sha Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 12 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: All these threads are useless. We aren’t win t20 cup next year irrespective of who we play. I m not watching cricket . I follow the scores . Only saw final of World Cup as New Zealand is my fav team . Idiots flock to ipl stadia eyeballs glue cricket matches and bcci purse gets fat with cricketers becoming millionaires inspite of no trophy to show last 5 years - players who got us icici test championship - ashwin jadeja and pujara and lately pant are always under pressure of undue nature . But morons who get useless runs in bilaterals are paid a zillion . In the golden age of bowling we are not world champions of all three formats cos it’s also the golden age of nepotism and the worst captain ever to lead an Indian side Cricwala, nevada and Suhaan 1 2 Link to comment
retired_hurt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Pant has a very good defense to ....he looked the most comfertable when every one struggling in semi final against NZ Thats rathore statement Diff btw careless n fearless is result....when it comes off ppl say it was genius when it doesnt ppl say what a fool 1st lets back pant properly then lets come to others....even kishen n samson will go through same There is something called match awareness. If your team needs you to be there and play sensibly and instead you try unnecessary cheeky shots, and in the process lose team the match, then there are bound to be questions raised against you. Yes, you need to back youngsters, and give them confidence, but only if they are willing to improve and work upon their mistakes. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, retired_hurt said: There is something called match awareness. If your team needs you to be there and play sensibly and instead you try unnecessary cheeky shots, and in the process lose team the match, then there are bound to be questions raised against you. Yes, you need to back youngsters, and give them confidence, but only if they are willing to improve and work upon their mistakes. If all 20-21 yr olds were catsigated for this, none of them would have gone on to have a long career. Yuvraj after 18 matches had an average of 21 with a SR of 83. Imagine if his coach and captain publicly abused him and left him in the lurch. Link to comment
beetle Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Read more at: https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/we-need-to-look-beyond-ms-dhoni-now-rishabh-pant-is-my-choice-for-world-t20-sunil-gavaskar/articleshow/71213608.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst More people need to speak up . express bowling, Suhaan, nevada and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, retired_hurt said: There is something called match awareness. If your team needs you to be there and play sensibly and instead you try unnecessary cheeky shots, and in the process lose team the match, then there are bound to be questions raised against you. Yes, you need to back youngsters, and give them confidence, but only if they are willing to improve and work upon their mistakes. match awareness comes without playing matches kya ? he hasnt even played 20 ODI till now.....ur saying as if he hasnt done anything beetle 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, beetle said: Read more at: https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/we-need-to-look-beyond-ms-dhoni-now-rishabh-pant-is-my-choice-for-world-t20-sunil-gavaskar/articleshow/71213608.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst More people need to speak up . Im afraid Dhoni will toss some coins and Gavaskar will change his tone Even if its temporary,it sounds good express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Names speaking up for Pant - Gavaskar, Dada, Zaheer, Agarkar. Yuvraj has always been a supporter Any reactions from Sehwag and Gambhir? Let the current TM mafia be defeated for once and all nevada 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 21 hours ago, velu said: that senior might have done some terrific job for their project Yes. But now he is old and companies wants him to retire. But his chamchas want him back Link to comment
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