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Is Shivam Dubey Another Railu Katta


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About Shivam dubey 

He is a specialist power hitter- its a specialist job in LOI.....ppl who dont understand modern cricket wont understand this role.

 

Bowling- He bowls as well but his bowling isnt good enough for international level at best shud be relied for max 5 overs so he can be 6th bowler but not 5th

 

Batting- his biggest plus point is his power hitting which is why he is in team since hardik isnt their and we need such players in lower order. Now is his batting good enough at international remains to be seen 

 

 

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I guess being at the right place at the right times matter a lot more than actually being a good cricketer be it as a batsman or a bowler.

 

I guess let us get rid of all good batsmen and bowlers and focus on players such as these.

 

Not international level. Cannon fodder bowling and will not last against international bowlers especially anyone who can bowl over 135

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3 hours ago, maniac said:

I guess being at the right place at the right times matter a lot more than actually being a good cricketer be it as a batsman or a bowler.

 

I guess let us get rid of all good batsmen and bowlers and focus on players such as these.

 

Not international level. Cannon fodder bowling and will not last against international bowlers especially anyone who can bowl over 135

That is what I was afraid of. Another wasted slot. 

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4 hours ago, maniac said:

I guess being at the right place at the right times matter a lot more than actually being a good cricketer be it as a batsman or a bowler.

 

I guess let us get rid of all good batsmen and bowlers and focus on players such as these.

 

Not international level. Cannon fodder bowling and will not last against international bowlers especially anyone who can bowl over 135

We cant just look at the word batsman n bowler alone. 

 

batsman n bowlers also have types like 

batsman- someone who can anchor, grafter, power hitter

bowler- worhorse, attacking, 5th , 6th bowlers

 

We have no shortage of batsman who can bat in top 3 problem starts after that .....yuvi, dhoni, raina did a gr8 job for year and it was never an easy role. 

this guy fits under power hitter category.......now how good is he at international remains to be seen but till now his consistency at domestic n A level has been phenomenal and Indian team needs power hitter in lower middler order. We have serious issue their as we dont have many options for that role.

 

Hardik - best option but is struggling with injury for an year n so 

DK- such is the state that this guy is 2nd in list .....and he cant bowl or field, consistency is not there....only good for 1 situation

Raina- done n dusted

Krunal- extremely weak against fast bowling

Jadeja- Still have to play more innings like semi final

 

We wont find it unless we try

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4 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Shivam Dubey ji if properly groomed should be our once in a gen player like Yuvraj Singh. 

I hope he's taken good care of.

Also, Railu katta means railway track in Telugu.. so I was wondering why that comparison here 

See the top post.

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5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

We cant just look at the word batsman n bowler alone. 

 

batsman n bowlers also have types like 

batsman- someone who can anchor, grafter, power hitter

bowler- worhorse, attacking, 5th , 6th bowlers

 

We have no shortage of batsman who can bat in top 3 problem starts after that .....yuvi, dhoni, raina did a gr8 job for year and it was never an easy role. 

this guy fits under power hitter category.......now how good is he at international remains to be seen but till now his consistency at domestic n A level has been phenomenal and Indian team needs power hitter in lower middler order. We have serious issue their as we dont have many options for that role.

 

Hardik - best option but is struggling with injury for an year n so 

DK- such is the state that this guy is 2nd in list .....and he cant bowl or field, consistency is not there....only good for 1 situation

Raina- done n dusted

Krunal- extremely weak against fast bowling

Jadeja- Still have to play more innings like semi final

 

We wont find it unless we try

See a pattern there? None of them were “specialist allrounders” or bits and pieces players. 2 proper extremely talented batsmen who can be more than handy with the ball and the other a proper frontline keeper.


anyway it’s only T20 so who cares but sad that such thrash gets picked over actual proper talent.

 

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2 hours ago, maniac said:

See a pattern there? None of them were “specialist allrounders” or bits and pieces players. 2 proper extremely talented batsmen who can be more than handy with the ball and the other a proper frontline keeper.


anyway it’s only T20 so who cares but sad that such thrash gets picked over actual proper talent.

 

Dubey, Pandya A and B, Shankars these are all destined to fail but I give them credit for keep on trying.

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6 hours ago, maniac said:

See a pattern there? None of them were “specialist allrounders” or bits and pieces players.

Despite being specialist yuvraj n raina were extremely inconsistent at start of career

Most all rounder will look bits n pieces if u take out their initial career perfomances. In t20 u need multi dimension players.

Dube has done extremely as batsman only in domestic n A games ........even i have my doubts about him against pace in international cricket but that has been a case with few rayudu was last xample of it despite being a specialist .

 

Just becoz a player has extra skill we shudnt look down upon him. He has earned his chance 

 

6 hours ago, maniac said:

2 proper extremely talented batsmen who can be more than handy with the ball and the other a proper frontline keeper.

Raina n yuvi bowling became useful a lot later in their career and became consistent also quite late......infact raina never became consistent i think . 

 

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1 hour ago, Straight Drive said:

He does not seems to be ready for international level but has to pick up fast as he is already 26 and an all rounder shelf life is relatively lesser.

he has done everything to earn a place.....in what way is he not ready

Yes i have my doubts about against pace but if he has that issue i doubt it ll improve that easy

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51 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

He does not seems to be ready for international level but has to pick up fast as he is already 26 and an all rounder shelf life is relatively lesser.

Two solid FC seasons with both bat and ball, consistent performances for the A side away from home in both FC and List A matches, a solid VZ trophy. Not sure why you would say he's not ready. Is a power hitter and can bowl 130k (have seen him bowl 127-128 kmph on domestic speed guns in FC matches), He's a late bloomer and has earned his spot. Only place where he missed was IPL. But that can be excused as playing under Kohli at that franchise is never easy, all they care about is their superstars and have always mismanaged younger players.

 

Good for him that he's making his debut under Rohit.

 

We have too many one dimensional players in our LOI sides. Need to keep giving opportunities to any talented player who does decently with both bat and ball. 

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2 hours ago, tweaker said:

As per report Royal Challengers Bangalore are set too release Shivam Dube

And the Bangalore-based outfit reportedly had enough of the allrounder as they wanted to trade him with another franchise. As per report, Royal Challengers Bangalore were all set to release Shivam Dube before his performance for India A and Mumbai made them change their decision.

 

Link - https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket/royal-challengers-bangalore-were-set-to-release-shivam-dube-report/

 

Too bad for him they changed their mind 

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53 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he has done everything to earn a place.....in what way is he not ready

Yes i have my doubts about against pace but if he has that issue i doubt it ll improve that easy

He needs to improve his bowling. The quality of batsmen and bolwers you play against in Ranji Trophy and at international level is very different.  Being very specific he cannot be one of the 5 bowlers at all even in T20 format. In IPL he flopped and I guess he did not even bowl 2 overs per match on average, did he ?. He lacks swing and bowls at very dibbly dobbly pace  His defense as batsman will not stand much against international bowlers.  At the moment his game is one dimensional with him being good at hitting. There is more to batting than just tonking the ball. He will have to prove he can pace the batting innings as well. His IPL performance too was not good.  I feel he needs a massive improvement in developing himself to fit international level.

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