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Why Rishabh Pant is targeted


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2 hours ago, tweaker said:

It seems most people didn't like Pant taking over Dhoni 's place in team India.

 

Inspite of good performance in test, he was replaced by Saha and now his place in T20 also looked threatened.

 

Most of the commentators are openly criticising him , but they they don't talk about experienced senior player at the other end.

 

In the 2nd T20 he may be replaced by Sanju Samson 

attacking players like pant, pandya will always be talking point...not to forget sehwag case was same when he use to get that famous sehwag ki maa ka call aa gaya

 

Its their style when it comes off it looks million bucks when it doesnt it look foolish. Had social media been so strong during sehwag n yuvi days they wud have received same 

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10 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

:laugh:Ohh yessss

 

Let's blame everything and anything for his failures 

 

21  Matches

20 Average 

120 SR 

 

His T20I career so far 

 

 

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Dhoni after his first 21 T20 matches had an average of 25 and SR of 109. This when he was the captain, batted at whatever position he wanted to, chose batting situations to walk in, had a secure place in the team and coach was not gunning for his life

 

And Dhoni fans have the gall to mock Pant's average T20 performance.

 

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13 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Dhoni after his first 21 T20 matches had an average of 25 and SR of 109. This when he was the captain, batted at whatever position he wanted to, chose batting situations to walk in, had a secure place in the team and coach was not gunning for his life

 

And Dhoni fans have the gall to mock Pant's average T20 performance.

 

:giggle: What does Dhoni has anything to do with this thread? 140s was winning scores back in those days in 2007. If I go by your logic lets compare Sachin's SR and Average to Babar Azam :laugh:

 

Chalo atleast you are accepting pant was average so far :cantstop: End of discussion. 

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As a backer of Pant I believe some of the criticism is justified, 21 T20s is enough of a sample size to judge a player. There are 2-3 other keepers (not MSD) who are viable options. 30+ more T20s before the big event, if he can't find the right tempo for this format soon, we will have to move on. He is very young and a regular fixture in IPL, so not the end of the road....besides better to be abused and known than ignored and unknown. 

 

He has been treated harshly in ODIs, especially that whole circus in the lead up to WC but not in other formats. Again tempo problem but at least we have sufficient time before the next major event, with MS out of the picture he will get an extended run for sure.

 

Reg media noise, SM antics, bakwas by ex-players yada yada that is an inescapable part of the game today...at least be happy he is still part of the squads rubbing shoulders with some greats, a priceless educational experience (in most cases it accelerates learning curve) that eludes the likes of Gill, Shaw, Gopal, Saini etc. 

 

Reg tests Saha was deserving of that spot on home pitches because our bowlers are more confident in his (primary) keeping abilities...his batting isn't an issue in SC. In NZ I expect Pant to make a comeback, next home season will be in 2021 by which time Saha (37 then, injury problems....) would have surely called it quits or fallen way down the pecking order. So this is like a farewell season for him and he deserves it tbh, legendary keeper who was also damn unlucky with the wrong diagnosis by NCA medical team. Also it is not like Pant has been sitting idle in the nets, based on various interviews and reports it looks like Saha is helping him out with his keeping against the toughest bowling attack to keep to. Like the Healy/Gilchrist transition I think this will help the southpaw in the long run now that maestro has taken him under his wing....an opportunity not many budding keepers will get. 

 

Pant will be a regular test player starting from next year, aged 22....he has already played more white ball cricket than most Indian players at that young age. Really there is no need to feel sorry for him, long career ahead and this experience will toughen him up. 

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4 hours ago, Gollum said:

As a backer of Pant I believe some of the criticism is justified, 21 T20s is enough of a sample size to judge a player. There are 2-3 other keepers (not MSD) who are viable options. 30+ more T20s before the big event, if he can't find the right tempo for this format soon, we will have to move on. He is very young and a regular fixture in IPL, so not the end of the road....besides better to be abused and known than ignored and unknown. 

 

He has been treated harshly in ODIs, especially that whole circus in the lead up to WC but not in other formats. Again tempo problem but at least we have sufficient time before the next major event, with MS out of the picture he will get an extended run for sure.

 

Reg media noise, SM antics, bakwas by ex-players yada yada that is an inescapable part of the game today...at least be happy he is still part of the squads rubbing shoulders with some greats, a priceless educational experience (in most cases it accelerates learning curve) that eludes the likes of Gill, Shaw, Gopal, Saini etc. 

 

Reg tests Saha was deserving of that spot on home pitches because our bowlers are more confident in his (primary) keeping abilities...his batting isn't an issue in SC. In NZ I expect Pant to make a comeback, next home season will be in 2021 by which time Saha (37 then, injury problems....) would have surely called it quits or fallen way down the pecking order. So this is like a farewell season for him and he deserves it tbh, legendary keeper who was also damn unlucky with the wrong diagnosis by NCA medical team. Also it is not like Pant has been sitting idle in the nets, based on various interviews and reports it looks like Saha is helping him out with his keeping against the toughest bowling attack to keep to. Like the Healy/Gilchrist transition I think this will help the southpaw in the long run now that maestro has taken him under his wing....an opportunity not many budding keepers will get. 

 

Pant will be a regular test player starting from next year, aged 22....he has already played more white ball cricket than most Indian players at that young age. Really there is no need to feel sorry for him, long career ahead and this experience will toughen him up. 

Great post. I really don't see the reason to feel sorry for Pant. He has played enough Intl. cricket for his age and has a long career in front of him.

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The critics probably think he is unworthy to replace a legend like Dhoni or that he has to deliver right away to earn his place. It is now up to Pant to get a few big scores to earn himself some breathing space. There are still 2 matches left in this series, so hopefully he can make the most of it. 

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Pant has been treated very badly by this TM. Unfortunately there isn't any senior player in this TM who can stand up to Virat or Shastri. 

However good captain Rohit might be, he himself is yet to establish in Tests so the players of the stature of Fab 5   are being missed.  Rohit got far more opportunities for similar performances but he was always branded as this talented Rohit Sharma and we mocked at him for years before he blossomed to what he is now. Pant I'm afraid might become our own version of Umar Akmal or Vinod Kambli in LOIs at least.. 

 

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54 minutes ago, nevada said:

The critics probably think he is unworthy to replace a legend like Dhoni or that he has to deliver right away to earn his place. It is now up to Pant to get a few big scores to earn himself some breathing space. There are still 2 matches left in this series, so hopefully he can make the most of it. 

Stepped in as a replacement on the Eng tour, and since then put in best Test numbers by an Indian keeper in first 10 tests of his career. Yet out of the Test side, when he could have learned so much playing on home pitches. And to make it worse, the TM kept him away from domestic cricket warming the benches. If he isn't a good enough keeper, why is he there as a potential concussion sub.

 

Best thing for Pant's career right now will be to be dropped from the team so that he can focus on domestic cricket away from the toxic team environment and media spotlight.

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9 hours ago, New guy said:

Dhawan averages 28 in his entire career. Dont see him targeted. Dhoni played most t20 matches in the world and adored only 2 50s. Didnt see him targeted 

 

dhoni won the T20 WC ..  he is not just a player , more like captain + player + motivator +  selector + coach + etc etc 

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Part of the blame is from the selectors and commentators who have criticized him constantly. Also Rat is also to blame for striking fear in him and other new comers. Gavaskar was unnecessarily scathing towards him in the runout of Dhawan. But its not the first time Sunnyji criticized any youngster. Sunny criticized his favorite disciple Sachin for this 4th innings counter attack against WI in 93/94. India were leading the series 1-0 and WI needed to win the final test to draw the series. India were left to chase 350+ and Sachin went for it and lost his wicket. Sunny criticized Sachin who was about the same age as Pant back then maybe even younger. WI had a record of longest consecutive non-losing series. That would have ended if India won the series. It was a tough ask even for Sachin who even if he had played defensively, India could not have hung on to a draw. Sunny can be a cranky old man sometimes. Pant is not a finished good even now. He needs to be persisted with some LOI series before criticizing him. Pant also needs to calm down and not get over excited.

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7 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Stepped in as a replacement on the Eng tour, and since then put in best Test numbers by an Indian keeper in first 10 tests of his career. Yet out of the Test side, when he could have learned so much playing on home pitches. And to make it worse, the TM kept him away from domestic cricket warming the benches. If he isn't a good enough keeper, why is he there as a potential concussion sub.

 

Best thing for Pant's career right now will be to be dropped from the team so that he can focus on domestic cricket away from the toxic team environment and media spotlight.

Good point about the backup keeper spot. Someone like Akshay Wadkar would probably be next in line based on keeping alone, but it took an all-time great wicketkeeper like Saha to keep out Pant, so I am not holding my breath.

 

But now it seems like after Saha retires, we will not have a decent keeper for a long time - Pant has basically skewed the discussion towards batting skills again, after Saha repaired the damage done by Dhoni. In the end, Pant top-, inside- and outside-edging his way to a century in a lost cause in England, before slogging his way Tino-Best-style to another one on a highway in Australia has done more harm than good.

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28 minutes ago, abc said:

Good point about the backup keeper spot. Someone like Akshay Wadkar would probably be next in line based on keeping alone, but it took an all-time great wicketkeeper like Saha to keep out Pant, so I am not holding my breath.

 

But now it seems like after Saha retires, we will not have a decent keeper for a long time - Pant has basically skewed the discussion towards batting skills again, after Saha repaired the damage done by Dhoni. In the end, Pant top-, inside- and outside-edging his way to a century in a lost cause in England, before slogging his way Tino-Best-style to another one on a highway in Australia has done more harm than good.

So why haven't other wicketkeepers including MS failed to do it if it was that simple?

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