maniac Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Branching from the other thread. As I said in the other threads, one of the best moves Daredevils have ever made since their inception is to make a youngster captain despite having senior foreign players and guys like Dhawan and hopefully will keep Shreyas captain despite buying Ashwin. Shreyas is 24 and is captaining in a high level league like the IPL and has been captain on A tours as well. In 6 years time most of the current players will be in the sunset of their careers.Rohit,Kohli, Dhawan,Rahane,Pujara etc. And as per the theory for batsmen at 30 Iyer should be in his prime Jadeja, Rahul and Pandya are not even remotely close to being captaincy material. Only other competitor is Mayank Aggarwal. Shaw might have kissed future captaincy goodbye with the recent ban and also seems to have attitude issues. Gill is another guy who can be groomed but Iyer has a head start here. He should be kept around In the scheme of things for test cricket too. Reminds me of Rohit in a way , thrust into captaincy and learning from mentors and seniors around him gradually. Hopefully the team management doesn’t screw it up. Ipl franchises and that includes the bozos at RCB, Delhi and Kings X1 handle players better than the Indian team. Gollum 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I don't like Shreyas's temperament. He's always been a touch too brash for his own good. Not sure if he's evolved enough from there on - he's yet to solidify a regular spot in the Indian team, let alone Captain. But to be fair, I was never a big fan of Virat's attitude either. And credit where its due, for all his flaws, and I'm not shy of pointing them out repeatedly, he hasn't been a bad captain overall. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Let him solidify his spot in the side, and then we can talk about captaincy. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, bowl_out said: Let him solidify his spot in the side, and then we can talk about captaincy. Exactly Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 8 hours ago, maniac said: Branching from the other thread. As I said in the other threads, one of the best moves Daredevils have ever made since their inception is to make a youngster captain despite having senior foreign players and guys like Dhawan and hopefully will keep Shreyas captain despite buying Ashwin. Coz already flopped as captain of SRH and iyer was captain before Ashwin n dhawan joined DC, why wud they change him when team did well. TBH his captaincy hasnt been gr8 till now in IPL 8 hours ago, maniac said: Jadeja, Rahul and Pandya are not even remotely close to being captaincy material. What if Rahul does well as captain in IPL u never knw? 8 hours ago, maniac said: Shaw might have kissed future captaincy goodbye with the recent ban and also seems to have attitude issues. If he performs heavily after coming back for few years everyone will forget whatever happened , nyways taking cough syrup shudnt be a big issue 8 hours ago, maniac said: He should be kept around In the scheme of things for test cricket too. Not even on radar for test format 8 hours ago, maniac said: Hopefully the team management doesn’t screw it up. Ipl franchises and that includes the bozos at RCB, Delhi and Kings X1 handle players better than the Indian team. As of now we have time....in next 3-4 yrs i think few youngsters will become their IPL franchise captain n we ll get better idea.....another crucial factor wud be how these players perfoms for India.....dhoni, kohli , ganguly before becoming the captain performed really well as players Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, sandeep said: I don't like Shreyas's temperament. He's always been a touch too brash for his own good. Not sure if he's evolved enough from there on - he's yet to solidify a regular spot in the Indian team, let alone Captain. But to be fair, I was never a big fan of Virat's attitude either. And credit where its due, for all his flaws, and I'm not shy of pointing them out repeatedly, he hasn't been a bad captain overall. Shreyas is a kid, plenty of time to mature. Ponting was way worse when he was this age, severely reprimanded by CA following a bar fight, but he changed for the better with time. Even someone like Kohli at age 24 was a dickhead. maniac and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Definitely one for the big formats - It's appalling how we had 3 wicketkeepers in our world cup squad at one point when someone like iyer was definitely needed. Was given very chances when the likes of Rayudu and DK were given so many. maniac 1 Link to comment
gakgupta Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Lol....he is not even regular in any format...and we are talking about his captaincy..His technique is piss poor and might not get into test side....Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Link to comment
gakgupta Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Shreyas is a kid, plenty of time to mature. Ponting was way worse when he was this age, severely reprimanded by CA following a bar fight, but he changed for the better with time. Even someone like Kohli at age 24 was a dickhead. What makes you think that kohli has changed....He still is a dick headSent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Cricwala and Vijy 1 1 Link to comment
gakgupta Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Branching from the other thread. As I said in the other threads, one of the best moves Daredevils have ever made since their inception is to make a youngster captain despite having senior foreign players and guys like Dhawan and hopefully will keep Shreyas captain despite buying Ashwin. Shreyas is 24 and is captaining in a high level league like the IPL and has been captain on A tours as well. In 6 years time most of the current players will be in the sunset of their careers.Rohit,Kohli, Dhawan,Rahane,Pujara etc. And as per the theory for batsmen at 30 Iyer should be in his prime Jadeja, Rahul and Pandya are not even remotely close to being captaincy material. Only other competitor is Mayank Aggarwal. Shaw might have kissed future captaincy goodbye with the recent ban and also seems to have attitude issues. Gill is another guy who can be groomed but Iyer has a head start here. He should be kept around In the scheme of things for test cricket too. Reminds me of Rohit in a way , thrust into captaincy and learning from mentors and seniors around him gradually. Hopefully the team management doesn’t screw it up. Ipl franchises and that includes the bozos at RCB, Delhi and Kings X1 handle players better than the Indian team. What's up with Shaw??I thought he was injured..Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Khota Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) In future no one should be the captain of all 3 formats. Edited November 9, 2019 by Khota Sgattick10 and nevada 2 Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 16 hours ago, maniac said: Branching from the other thread. As I said in the other threads, one of the best moves Daredevils have ever made since their inception is to make a youngster captain despite having senior foreign players and guys like Dhawan and hopefully will keep Shreyas captain despite buying Ashwin. Shreyas is 24 and is captaining in a high level league like the IPL and has been captain on A tours as well. In 6 years time most of the current players will be in the sunset of their careers.Rohit,Kohli, Dhawan,Rahane,Pujara etc. And as per the theory for batsmen at 30 Iyer should be in his prime Jadeja, Rahul and Pandya are not even remotely close to being captaincy material. Only other competitor is Mayank Aggarwal. Shaw might have kissed future captaincy goodbye with the recent ban and also seems to have attitude issues. Gill is another guy who can be groomed but Iyer has a head start here. He should be kept around In the scheme of things for test cricket too. Reminds me of Rohit in a way , thrust into captaincy and learning from mentors and seniors around him gradually. Hopefully the team management doesn’t screw it up. Ipl franchises and that includes the bozos at RCB, Delhi and Kings X1 handle players better than the Indian team. Did not see anything great in his captaincy in IPL to form an opinion that he will be great . Of the younger lot , Rahane's Test captaincy was good . Link to comment
maniac Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: Did not see anything great in his captaincy in IPL to form an opinion that he will be great . Of the younger lot , Rahane's Test captaincy was good . He is learning. He is only 24. You don’t become a great captain at that age. However he has good mentors in Ganguly and Ponting. Also in the IPL he seemed to be improving with every game as a captain. Obviously he is still in training. Reminded me a lot of Rohit Sharma when he became captain of MI. He had all these senior players and mentors that he looked lost. However he gradually came into his own to become a leader. I am not saying Shreyas is 100% the guy. However he has had the opportunity to lead a side with star players in a high stakes tournament with high quality management and resources at his disposal. That’s a big heed start compared to other youngsters. When Shreyas is 30 Rahane will be 37 and so will be Pujara,Rohit and Kohli on the wrong side of 30s. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, gakgupta said: What's up with Shaw?? I thought he was injured.. Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Banned for drug use (cough syrup which contains a banned substance) Link to comment
maniac Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Coz already flopped as captain of SRH and iyer was captain before Ashwin n dhawan joined DC, why wud they change him when team did well. TBH his captaincy hasnt been gr8 till now in IPL What if Rahul does well as captain in IPL u never knw? If he performs heavily after coming back for few years everyone will forget whatever happened , nyways taking cough syrup shudnt be a big issue Not even on radar for test format As of now we have time....in next 3-4 yrs i think few youngsters will become their IPL franchise captain n we ll get better idea.....another crucial factor wud be how these players perfoms for India.....dhoni, kohli , ganguly before becoming the captain performed really well as players You don’t become an amazing captain overnight at 22-23. You evolve as a captain. However the IPl team picked him as captain because they saw the potential in him and took a risk. Rahul May be a mad genius that has not been discovered by the world yet but so far nothing shows based on his social media, Karan Johar fiasco and his basic mental strength on the field that he is anywhere close to being a captaincy material. Shaw has to really take it to another level for people to forget his ban for captaincy especially. These things do matter in Indian cricket. He has a steep hill to climb Iyer has to be on the radar for the test format. last point I agree, he needs to evolve every year like Rohit did with MI Link to comment
maniac Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gollum said: Shreyas is a kid, plenty of time to mature. Ponting was way worse when he was this age, severely reprimanded by CA following a bar fight, but he changed for the better with time. Even someone like Kohli at age 24 was a dickhead. Gimme the dickhead Kohli any day over the current Virushka version(image conscious and suck up current candy floss version ) Edited November 9, 2019 by maniac Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Khota said: In future no one should be the captain in all 3 formats. Agree Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, maniac said: You don’t become an amazing captain overnight at 22-23. You evolve as a captain. However the IPl team picked him as captain because they saw the potential in him and took a risk. Rahul May be a mad genius that has not been discovered by the world yet but so far nothing shows based on his social media, Karan Johar fiasco and his basic mental strength on the field that he is anywhere close to being a captaincy material. Shaw has to really take it to another level for people to forget his ban for captaincy especially. These things do matter in Indian cricket. He has a steep hill to climb Iyer has to be on the radar for the test format. last point I agree, he needs to evolve every year like Rohit did with MI he can be on the radar perhaps, but there are too few slots. TM is invested too much in Jinx, which leaves only 1 slot for Vihari, Gill and everyone else to compete over. Link to comment
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