Cricketics Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I am sure most you guys in India might have better updates as this must be on 24*7 on news channels back home, but anway, I am hearing lot of money is being donated etc, and that government also might put in money to build the temple. Do you think government should put in the money to build Ram Mandir? Is it also true they are trying to make sure its bigger than Angkor Vat in Vietnam? Not sure what the purpose is there, but anyway thats another debate, but what do you think should be the best way to build such temple? Should it really clearly on donation from people, trust etc or should the government be putting in all the money to build this temple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 governments only responsibility is to form a trust and then gtfo .. bigger than anghor vat ?? anghor vat was built on 200/300 acres of land .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeBrainfade Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I am sure most you guys in India might have better updates as this must be on 24*7 on news channels back home, but anway, I am hearing lot of money is being donated etc, and that government also might put in money to build the temple. Do you think government should put in the money to build Ram Mandir? Is it also true they are trying to make sure its bigger than Angkor Vat in Vietnam? Not sure what the purpose is there, but anyway thats another debate, but what do you think should be the best way to build such temple? Should it really clearly on donation from people, trust etc or should the government be putting in all the money to build this temple? No one asked me specifically, but IMO, they should build an orphanage or free school for 200 kids and have a shrine for Ram as part of this building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, ExtremeBrainfade said: No one asked me specifically, but IMO, they should build an orphanage or free school for 200 kids and have a shrine for Ram as part of this building. I don’t get this argument every time the Mandir is brought up, why not school? Why not hospital? Why does any place of worship exist? Should we apply the logic to all these places? Will the temple trust build schools or orphanages, well temples in India are controlled by the government so it is their prerogative and obviously goes without saying that in a perfect world the govt provides ample schools, hospitals and orphanages . Let the Mandir be built and put the money earned on tourism and pilgrims to gold use rather than using the space provided for the mandir itself for other initiatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeBrainfade Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, maniac said: I don’t get this argument every time the Mandir is brought up, why not school? Why not hospital? Why does any place of worship exist? Should we apply the logic to all these places? Will the temple trust build schools or orphanages, well temples in India are controlled by the government so it is their prerogative and obviously goes without saying that in a perfect world the govt provides ample schools, hospitals and orphanages . Let the Mandir be built and put the money earned on tourism and pilgrims to gold use rather than using the space provided for the mandir itself for other initiatives. Should we apply the logic to all these places? I sure would hope so Let the Mandir be built and put the money earned on tourism and pilgrims to gold use rather than using the space provided for the mandir itself for other initiatives. Fair enough. Let the humanity, not the religion, be the driving force. Edited November 14, 2019 by ExtremeBrainfade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 People who don't know the significance of Janmabhoomi should not comment on it. K.K Mohd who excavated RJB in the 90s told it bluntly. It is as significant as Mecca for a Muslim. It is a matter of great Pride that this issue has been in the favor of Hindus. One has to know their heritage, what Ramayana signifies. It is not just a Temple, we owe it to the diety for not fighting for it. There can be 1000 other places to build schools, hospitals, orphanages, but this temple in the Janmabhoomi will not be compromised. Build the temple and the money from the proceedings can be used to build an orphanage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It's common to build temples with public donation. Happens all over India. Nothing new. Can't imagine the money that public will donate to this cause. It's going to be unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: It's common to build temples with public donation. Happens all over India. Nothing new. Can't imagine the money that public will donate to this cause. It's going to be unbelievable. https://www.opindia.com/2019/11/vishwa-hindu-parishad-ayodhya-ram-janmabhoomi-nyas-temple-trust-government-court/ The Vishva Hindu Parishad(VHP) has decided to use crowd-funding method to encourage Ram devotees to come forward and help in the construction of a grand Ram Temple in Ayodha after the Supreme Court passed its verdict in favour of building a Ram temple at the Ram Janmabhoomi site. In its bid to initiate mass mobilisation for the Ayodhya temple, VHP plans to reach out to Ram devotees across the world to seek financial contributions towards the construction of Ram temple. As per a report in Times Of India, Vinod Bansal, the national spokesperson for VHP said, “The Ayodhya temple movement struck a chord with millions of people. Scores of people affiliated themselves with the movement and sentiments of many of Hindus were stirred by it. Now they will have to do their bit, including ‘kar seva’. A formal plan will be released soon.” Straight Drive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Govt putting in money for building temple what are you smoking OP? All govts in India loot temples, watch them get destroyed/vandalized, maintain them poorly, swindle hundi collections etc...never give money. Only take, take, take. Hindu devotees will build this temple with their hard earned money, and then watch helplessly as most of that gets stolen and diverted elsewhere. Unless our temples are freed doesn't matter how many Ram temples we construct. chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 21 hours ago, ExtremeBrainfade said: No one asked me specifically, but IMO, they should build an orphanage or free school for 200 kids and have a shrine for Ram as part of this building. Good idea but allow me to modify, let Ram temple be built at the original site along with cultural centre, museum, itihas pathshala for children, research centre, pond etc. Muslims don't want the 5 acres charity, so let us build school, hospital, orphanage, old age home, football field etc there. Since mosque isn't an integral part of Islam (SC ruling) I propose pulling down all mosques in India and building a hospital in each of those places. I pledge one month's salary for each of those prospective public buildings of importance even if I have to die a pauper. Let Muslim brothers (since sisters anyway don't go to mosques) make the supreme sacrifice since they are all (incl Osama) going to heaven and us kafirs (incl Vivekananda) to hell, as compensation they can continue 5 am azan calls and pray in gardens, fields, railway tracks, jet bridges, coffee shops, public toilets.....sounds fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeBrainfade Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gollum said: Good idea but allow me to modify, let Ram temple be built at the original site along with cultural centre, museum, itihas pathshala for children, research centre, pond etc. Muslims don't want the 5 acres charity, so let us build school, hospital, orphanage, old age home, football field etc there. Since mosque isn't an integral part of Islam (SC ruling) I propose pulling down all mosques in India and building a hospital in each of those places. I pledge one month's salary for each of those prospective public buildings of importance even if I have to die a pauper. Let Muslim brothers (since sisters anyway don't go to mosques) make the supreme sacrifice since they are all (incl Osama) going to heaven and us kafirs (incl Vivekananda) to hell, as compensation they can continue 5 am azan calls and pray in gardens, fields, railway tracks, jet bridges, coffee shops, public toilets.....sounds fair? Full support. I would love to see society's primary rallying point be kindness and humanity itself, not the blessings of an unknown, unseen, magically powered deity. Will never happen, but a man can dream eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Good idea but allow me to modify, let Ram temple be built at the original site along with cultural centre, museum, itihas pathshala for children, research centre, pond etc. Muslims don't want the 5 acres charity, so let us build school, hospital, orphanage, old age home, football field etc there. Since mosque isn't an integral part of Islam (SC ruling) I propose pulling down all mosques in India and building a hospital in each of those places. I pledge one month's salary for each of those prospective public buildings of importance even if I have to die a pauper. Let Muslim brothers (since sisters anyway don't go to mosques) make the supreme sacrifice since they are all (incl Osama) going to heaven and us kafirs (incl Vivekananda) to hell, as compensation they can continue 5 am azan calls and pray in gardens, fields, railway tracks, jet bridges, coffee shops, public toilets.....sounds fair? Don't forget. in Airplanes in front of the bathroom forgetting there are prayer rooms in every fin Airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 12:09 PM, Cricketics said: I am sure most you guys in India might have better updates as this must be on 24*7 on news channels back home, but anway, I am hearing lot of money is being donated etc, and that government also might put in money to build the temple. Do you think government should put in the money to build Ram Mandir? Is it also true they are trying to make sure its bigger than Angkor Vat in Vietnam? Not sure what the purpose is there, but anyway thats another debate, but what do you think should be the best way to build such temple? Should it really clearly on donation from people, trust etc or should the government be putting in all the money to build this temple? Absolutely not. There needs to be clear separation of church and state. Otherwise, we will live in a religious theocracy like Iran and Saudi Arabia. If a Ram Mandir is built, then it should be privately funded. And be prepared to see it damaged by the religious minority ... this tit for tat will have happened for centuries and will go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Gov owns all temples and make major money from them, so makes sense for govn to invest in new build too sergio04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Audiophile said: Absolutely not. There needs to be clear separation of church and state. Otherwise, we will live in a religious theocracy like Iran and Saudi Arabia. If a Ram Mandir is built, then it should be privately funded. And be prepared to see it damaged by the religious minority ... this tit for tat will have happened for centuries and will go on. Ostriches. Govt is taking temple Hundi money and giving it to maintain Mosques and Churches. Wah! Kya Secular hain! diga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Dup Edited November 16, 2019 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Ostriches. Govt is taking temple Hundi money and giving it to maintain Mosques and Churches. Wah! Kya Secular hain! Sorry I forgot I was talking about India! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 12:56 AM, velu said: governments only responsibility is to form a trust and then gtfo .. bigger than anghor vat ?? anghor vat was built on 200/300 acres of land .. waddat? A tax on grapes? velu and cowboysfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhere Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Government should focus on Pollution and try to install Air purifiers rather spending money on a new temple or new Statues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 my only hope is they keep the design away from gujjus,they wont know a great design even if somebody slapped them with it.If it was upto to Modi and fat man they would build a 300 ft ram statue and call it a day and then Ram would look terrible and not heroic. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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