Dada 2004 team vs Kohli 2019 Team in test , who ll win in Indian conditions ?

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Contest only for Indian condition 

 

Ill say hands down kohli's team -

 

• as 3 guys like gambhir, zak, DK didnt even achieve their peak and were struggling in their own ways. 
• Kohli bowling attack is relentless with no breathing space
• Shami umesh much better at reverse swing 
• Pujara has done better then Dravid in India 

 

 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Contest only for Indian condition 

 

Ill say hands down kohli's team -

 

• as 3 guys like gambhir, zak, DK didnt even achieve their peak and were struggling in their own ways. 
• Kohli bowling attack is relentless with no breathing space
• Shami umesh much better at reverse swing 
• Pujara has done better then Dravid in India 

 

 

Kohli’s team batsmen got bundled out vs Moeen Ali and Lyon and you think they can handle Kumble and Bhajji in his prime?

 

Also good lucking dropping catches of Sachin,Dravid and Sehwag and on the other hand Dravid,VVS and Sehwag will grab every chance along the way.

 

 

[Stan AF]

Batting heavy team. I go with 2004.

[Vilander]

Current teams batting is much weaker than Ganguly team. And fab 5 might be able to counter the current bowlers.

 

Its not an open and shut case, In India the earlier team might beat the current team.

 

But overseas  Kolhis team will win.

[Suhaan]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Kohli’s team batsmen got bundled out vs Moeen Ali and Lyon and you think they can handle Kumble and Bhajji in his prime?

 

Also good lucking dropping catches of Sachin,Dravid and Sehwag and on the other hand Dravid,VVS and Sehwag will grab every chance along the way.

 

 

I think it will be one hell of a match

Ganguly's team had outstanding batting ability while Kohli's team has a poisonous attack in these conditions

Cant say who ll win

I think one who wins the toss will almost be there,as i dont think current lineup is "that" capable to counter bhajji kumble on a 4-5 th day pitch and vice versa 

[Laaloo]

Lol Jadejas steer would end by teatime on day 1 if 2004 team bats first.

[SK_IH]

That chokers lineup against Shami and co in the last innings may not be a good sight as used to be the case circa 2004-06.

On the flip side this Indian side need to be wary of Kumble mostly.

[maniac]

Just now, Suhaan said:

I think it will be one hell of a match

Ganguly's team had outstanding batting ability while Kohli's team has a poisonous attack in these conditions

Cant say who ll win

I think one who wins the toss will almost be there,as i dont think current lineup is "that" capable to counter bhajji kumble on a 4-5 th day pitch and vice versa 

If it is a bowling pitch it comes down to a batting shoot out. The 2019 attack is collectively better but it is not like guys like Kumble and Bhajji Cant run through sides on a 4th and 5th day pitch.

 

If it is a batting pitch, I think Kohli’s team is more potent as an attack but then guys like Sachin,Dravid,VVS and Dada have played much better attacks in overseas conditions 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

Kohli’s team batsmen got bundled out vs Moeen Ali and Lyon and you think they can handle Kumble and Bhajji in his prime?

moeen ali bundled us out in england...but he was ineffective when he came to india 

mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli all play spin well 

 

Where lyon got 8 fer wasnt a gr8 surface n one batsman we had was mukund- mayank n rohit are far better. If they play on poor surface ill say good luck any greta batsman against jadeja ....shami n umesh reverse

 

What leg spinner troubled indian team in India recently ?

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

 

Also good lucking dropping catches of Sachin,Dravid and Sehwag and on the other hand Dravid,VVS and Sehwag will grab every chance along the way.
 

 

we dont drop as much now as we use to a 2 yrs ago...still our catching wud be worse then them but 2019 bowling is far ahead 

 

Also as if those guys never dropped catches surely the ratio wud be less but tehy also did drop catches and lets not forget there keeper DK 

[Suhaan]

People ,you need to think about toss too

If Kohli's team wins toss and bats first they can even give GOAT Aussies run for their money

[Ankit_sharma03]

the only diff i see in 2 teams was sehwag ....if he had his day kisi ki nahin chalegi 

[maniac]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

moeen ali bundled us out in england...but he was ineffective when he came to india 

mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli all play spin well 

 

Where lyon got 8 fer wasnt a gr8 surface n one batsman we had was mukund- mayank n rohit are far better. If they play on poor surface ill say good luck any greta batsman against jadeja ....shami n umesh reverse

 

What leg spinner troubled indian team in India recently ?

we dont drop as much now as we use to a 2 yrs ago...still our catching wud be worse then them but 2019 bowling is far ahead 

 

Also as if those guys never dropped catches surely the ratio wud be less but tehy also did drop catches and lets not forget there keeper DK 

Kumble is not a conventional leg spinner. He has run through better line ups than the current Indian line up in home conditions and you think this team will handle Kumble like a piece of cake lol. Kumble is hands down the most difficult bowler to face ever in Indian conditions current team included and 2004 Bhajji was as good if not better than Ashwin and Jadeja in home conditions.

 

Also Indias other achillies heel is swing bowling and both Zak and Pathan are good with the new ball and even better in SC conditions.

 

The 2004 team has all the bowling to exploit all weaknesses that the current team has that is swing and spin. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

bowling wins u games

kumble n bhajji vs jadeja n ashwin can be a clash

But current team scores heavily with shami n umesh making it an attack with no breathing space . The best way to keep that batting lineup quite was keep the pressure up which 2004 aussie team did that year 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

People ,you need to think about toss too

If Kohli's team wins toss and bats first they can even give GOAT Aussies run for their money

Kohli’s team can be way better competitive than the 2004 team overseas because of our bowling but in SC conditions that team will walk all over the current lot 

[gattaca]

Ganguly team is single dimension dependent on conditions. Kohli’s team is multi dimensional team and are taking pitch out of equation. Kohli learnt his lesson after loosing to Australia in Pune test. He started challenging his pacers to do more. I haven’t seen a true spinning track after that series. 

[maniac]

Also the most important aspect is the fielding especially slip catching. The fab 5 can hurt you bad if they get additional lives.

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Kumble is not a conventional leg spinner. He has run through better line ups than the current Indian line up in home conditions and you think this team will handle Kumble like a piece of cake lol. Kumble is hands down the most difficult bowler to face ever in Indian conditions current team included and 2004 Bhajji was as good if not better than Ashwin and Jadeja in home conditions.

those better lineups wasnt use to indian condition like mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli are ....they have been raised on these condition 

A lot of players did handle those to well- Inzy, younis, hayden, strauss, cook , clarke ....even akmal razzaq partnership 

 

aise bhi koi unplayable nhin the .

 

Pujara is a beast in Indian conditions

mayank plays spin damn well and uses feet well which was the correct use against kumble n bhajji

rohit if set wnt be troubled by those 2 

Kohli will score .....he always does 

 

Only one left is rahane

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Also Indias other achillies heel is swing bowling and both Zak and Pathan are good with the new ball and even better in SC conditions.

Zak wasnt as good in 2004 as he was post 2007 

Shami n umesh are both good with new n old ball add more pace n bouncers 

 

Konsa banana swing milne wala hai SG ke saath india men

 

 

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The 2004 team has all the bowling to exploit all weaknesses that the current team has that is swing and spin. 

yet they were not dominant at home like current team is 

Aus Won series

PAk drew series

NZ Drew series 

ENG drew series in 2006 

 

This team is drubbing opposition....fine the quality of opp has gone down but still we are drubbing them really badly

Edited November 20, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[maniac]

Just now, gattaca said:

Ganguly team is single dimension dependent on conditions. Kohli’s team is multi dimensional team and are taking pitch out of equation. Kohli learnt his lesson after loosing to Australia in Pune test. He started challenging his pacers to do more. I haven’t seen a true spinning track after that series. 

There is a huuuuuge difference between the SA and even Aus lineups of 2004 and 2019.

 

The only teams that have  improved from 2004 are England and Nzl. Rest all have gone down the drain.

 

So it is not going to be as one sided as one thinks.

 

This team got trashed in England and even SA and lost the games only due to batting. 

[putrevus]

On dustbowls Kohli's team has no chance of beating Ganguly's team with Kumble.Sehwag would murder Jadeja and Ashwin for fun.

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

those better lineups wasnt use to indian condition like mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli are ....they have been raised on these condition 

A lot of players did handle those to well- Inzy, younis, hayden, strauss, cook , clarke ....even akmal razzaq partnership 

 

aise bhi koi unplayable nhin the .

 

Pujara is a beast in Indian conditions

mayank plays spin damn well and uses feet well which was the correct use against kumble n bhajji

rohit if set wnt be troubled by those 2 

Kohli will score .....he always does 

Zak wasnt as good in 2004 as he was post 2007 

Shami n umesh are both good with new n old ball add more pace n bouncers 

 

Konsa banana swing milne wala hai SG ke saath india men

 

 

yet they were not dominant at home like current team is 

Aus Won series

PAk drew series

NZ Drew series 

ENG drew series in 2006 

 

This team is drubbing opposition....fine the quality of opp has gone down but still we are drubbing them really badly

You clearly haven’t watched cricket in the 90s