maniac Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 BJP Just need to win a WC 83- Indiramma 2007/2011- Soniamma Time for BJP to intervene and make Rohit the LOI captain raki05, Pratik77, Norman and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, maniac said: BJP Just need to win a WC 83- Indiramma 2007/2011- Soniamma Time for BJP to intervene and make Rohit the LOI captain Add 1985 BH and 2013 CT But our test team has given us some great moments...2001 Aus series, 2003-04 Aus, 2004 Pak, 2015 onwards #1, 1st series win downunder, GOAT home stats Sucked in all the Olympics under BJP reign, hope we make amends in Tokyo. Our badminton has thrived under the BJP govt , Jai Teluguland. maniac, raki05 and Norman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Of all the meltdowns, this one takes the cake. India is not blocking naturalization. But illegal immigration. When will NYtimes understand , proves Indian sepoys working for the west don't have "university" education. sergio04, maniac, Laaloo and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcastic Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Mariyam said: Before my reply, I just want to state that it should be possible for us to have a discussion on a certain topic without taking into account the religious background of the people in the debate. Hence I choose to reply to you and not to @Vilander who lacks any kind of understanding of the issue, and thereby can only resort to low level name calling. In none of my posts have I ever mentioned that Muslim illegal migrants from Bangladesh be granted citizenship. I don't know why that is brought up repeatedly? Various reports suggest that many student bodies in the North East and particularly Assam are against the Bill. I would imagine that these are the regions that would stand to gain most by such an amendment. They are against the bill for the simple reason, that they fear getting swamped even if it is by their co-coreligionists and fear loss of control/identity. Why would these people, whom the bill is ostentatiously supposed to benefit, be against it? PS: Tribal parts of Assam and the North East are excluded from this Bill. Not the North East in its entirety. Another point, is how do you verify religious persecution. How does one establish if a person is 'forced and/or compelled to seek shelter in India due to religious persecution on the ground of religion'? What if a an economic migrant claims to be persecuted etc etc. I do not know how the GoI is going to go about establishing credentials here. I will believe that he/she is persecuted if a Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh from Pak/Bangladesh wants to come to India and become citizen. It does matter if they are not really persecuted in real. Non-muslims in these countries can be given citizenship in India because these countries are created as Islamic nations and their ancestors could not come to India for whatever reason and now they want to come. That is sufficient reason for me to accept them in India as citizens. In short, IMO GoI need not waste time and efforts in determining whether persecution of those people is genuine. All GoI need to do is that they are indeed non-muslims from Pak/BD/Afg as they claim themselves to be and want to be part of India. raki05, Muloghonto, diga and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muloghonto Posted December 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Quote Another point, is how do you verify religious persecution. How does one establish if a person is 'forced and/or compelled to seek shelter in India due to religious persecution on the ground of religion'? What if a an economic migrant claims to be persecuted etc etc. I do not know how the GoI is going to go about establishing credentials here. Don’t have to and it’s not necessary. We are one of only two Hindu majority nations left on the planet. And our share of Hindus is declining. If a foreign Hindu says they are persecuted at home, that alone is sufficient, since the larger social goal of India is to maintain its hindu majority identity. We are the last of the completely indigenous, home grown, socio-religious-culture group left on the planet, that hasn’t seen its core ethos altered by foreign missionaries and isn’t a hunter gatherer stuck in a middle of an impassible jungle. We don’t have to justify our survival in the long term anymore than a Jew needs to. Edited December 10, 2019 by Muloghonto someone, sergio04, Suhaan and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 This issue is again all about Muslim veto power. Muslims vote for certain parties cuz they guarantee a veto say. Its never about development, progress. And BJP is the largest party which disagrees with that kind of secularism, and thus we have Indian politics. sergio04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Congress wanted Communal Violence Bill where every Hindu would be seen as a criminal. Whereas, this CAB recognises Hindus can be victims. Its a welcome change, and all this debate is hogwash. Its only about two things. This Hindu can be victims? And Muslim veto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 6:39 PM, javier26 said: There is Ram in Ramzaan and Ali in Diwali This one takes the gold. I remember in 90s there was an ad played on Doordarshan which they will keep repeating 10 times a day movie named "Data" starring Mithun and famous song " ye teri meri yari". In that Ad film bolded dialogue was widely used. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Full on meltdown today. journalists’ relatives asking them what will happen to them? They all have so many illegal immigrant relatives. They don’t know what is CAB vs NRC! Edited December 10, 2019 by coffee_rules The Dark Horse, Gollum, Laaloo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Libtards and SJWs are behaving so stupid , spend a couple of minutes on twitter and you'll think a civil war has started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 4:04 AM, Gollum said: Balakot Mission Shakti General election verdict Triple Talaq abolition Chidambaram jailed 370, bifurcation, UTs Hurriyat dogs, soft separatists, anti-national voices in Kashmir jailed Chandrayaan II Ayodhya verdict CAB tabled Maaan so much accomplished in one year...libtards ko kitna zaleel kiya doubt we will ever have another such bonanza year. Meh! All these are anti-Muslim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Niazi nahi sudhrega A Pakeeee talking about human rights What bilateral agreement with that terror state? Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 [mention=24037]Tibarn[/mention] [mention=25956]Moochad[/mention] [mention=25771]Stradlater[/mention] Even if CAB is passed in RS what scope do milords have to overturn this? Will they cling on to basic structure, preamble etc to overturn the act? Fundamental rights is only for Indian citizens I think, will they be able to circumvent that? I don't know our constitution that well, what will the basis of the counter-argument? This is a huge moment in modern Indian history, trust libtards to throw spanner in the works. Basic structure, Preamble does not apply to foreigners.Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I am a little disappointed to see the views on this thread, particularly from posters I tend to agree with more often than not. I am not in favour of CAB and I am about as far from a libtard as one can possibly be. Let's look at the main problems: 1) SECURITY THREAT https://thewire.in/security/cab-could-be-misused-by-foreign-agents-to-infiltrate-india-raw-had-said RAW had already raised concerns. What is to say that Pak (we'll ignore Afg and Bangladesh for now) won't send Hindus/Sikhs/Christians to spy on us? What if they send someone to cause trouble in Punjab? And they undoubtedly will. Their devious designs are already in place if you've watched the speeches of their ministers and leaders in the lead up to and post the opening of Kartarpur corridor. I have personally seen how Sindhis from Pakistan (Hindus) who live in India proudly claim that their hearts still beat for Pakistan. And you'd rather trust them than Indian Muslims? Shame on you guys! 2) Our relationship with N.E is weakened In the aftermath of August 5 (which I fully endorse and agree was the need of the hour), Pakistan knows it can't hope to get Kashmir back. They will definitely try to start trouble in the N.E - see their leaders mouthing off about Nagaland, Manipur, etc. This Amendment Bill is being strongly opposed by N.E (Bhaichung Bhutia himself commented on it) and there are strong/violent protests in N.E if reports are to be believed. Given that they are so vital to our security interests and territorial integrity, is it worth antagonizing our own and taking in PAKISTANIS, AFGHANS AND BDs just so we can take in potential spies and terrorists from Pakistan? Instead of focusing on things like the economy, rising onion prices and terrible cases of rape, we are talking about utterly useless nonsense like CAB. We are not Norway or Sweden and we don't have enough resources to feed our own. So effectively, what we are doing is: 1. Taking in potential security threats 2. Antagonizing vast sections of our own population (N.E, Muslims, etc.) 3. Depleting our already scarce resources - we are still a poor country all said and done 4. Tarnishing our image on the world stage and some of you have the gall to label this as a great move! Absolutely sickening. I genuinely thought the current party would be an improvement over the Italian madam, but as more and more time passes, it is becoming apparent that they are just two sides of the same coin. Hopefully, the Supreme Court will strike this rubbish down and sense will prevail. India is for Indians: we don't need illegal immigrants from any religion. Period. And lol at having a go at Maryam - is this what it has come down to? We will push them into a corner and then cry foul when they respond. Ye Abdul Hamid ki sarzameen hai, ye Asfaqullah Khan ki sarzameen hai, yaad rakho. Jai Hind :) diga, Mariyam and sergio04 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Niazi nahi sudhrega A Pakeeee talking about human rights What bilateral agreement with that terror state? This terrorist will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 CAB explained to the dims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 More hypocrisy by theLiars sergio04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hindu Dhimmis and useful idiots to Islamists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Khalpat Posted December 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Hindu Dhimmis and useful idiots to Islamists Can someone please explain Uncle that you do not become officially Muslim on Twitter. It will be very painful process to get your thing cut in this age. Suhaan, Laaloo, Turning_track and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio04 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Hindu Dhimmis and useful idiots to Islamists He is a crypto christian. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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