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Shaheen Afridi Gets Mocked By Australian Journalist After He Struggled To Speak In English

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It's actually our fault. And by "our" , I mean we desis. 

 

We are so obsessed with English that we tend to forget it's just a language. You always here desi parents saying "wah! Kitna pada likha hai mera bacha!" when there bacha says two English words. :facepalm:

 

And then there are a few wannabe westerners (mostly youth) in our society, who speak as if Queen Elizabeth is their grandma and that too with people who speak the same language as them. No problem with this, but when they look down at people who actually value their mother tongue and called them "gawaar" and crap like that. Don't say I'm generalising because I've seen people do this multiple times at workplace and in other social gatherings. 

 

Here, Shaheen could've just spoken Urdu which he's comfortable with and had a translator but he probably thought that he'd be taken as an "illiterate" back home by doing so. :no:

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European and South American footballers often speak in their native tongue in interviews, cricket should be flexible enough to provide that opportunity of translation. Sportsman's job is to play, not learn foreign languages. Agree about many in our society looking down upon those who aren't fluent in English, angrez chale gaye aulad chor ke. 

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I think these western journalists do this now and then to keep their name in the papers. Their will be a huge furor in the Aussie media over this and how this was racist and what not. Its just a thing to rile up the masses and keep the papers running. Actually the comment was not that bad actually. he basically said he couldn't understand a word he spoke. May not be racist or colonialist but definitely meant to create controversy and have the Aussie public engage in this media drama. Its basically infotainment for the masses.

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12 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Wow. for the first time I'm agreeing with you. Wow I'm in a state of shock :shock:

Great. I hope we get to agree more in the future.Let us not forget this is a forum and we express our opinions freely. I for sure am not looking for approval from others. I just throw my stuff out there based on 4 or 5 sports I follow and come to some conclusions. I get lot of disagrees but I am who I am.

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2 minutes ago, Khota said:

Great. I hope we get to agree more in the future.Let us not forget this is a forum and we express our opinions freely. I for sure am not looking for approval from others. I just throw my stuff out there based on 4 or 5 sports I follow and come to some conclusions. I get lot of disagrees but I am who I am.

You have your right to your opinion but others have a right to disagree. But opening up random threads and restarting them when it has died down is asking for more rebuttals and dare I say attention :phehe:  In a way the site admin should applaud your efforts at keeping this place going :dance:

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Shaheen should get credit for speaking in English, despite not being comfortable with it. He is trying to get better at something he is not good at. Meanwhile the  journalist has shown that he can’t learn anything- just happy being a smug little idiot.

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4 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

You have your right to your opinion but others have a right to disagree. But opening up random threads and restarting them when it has died down is asking for more rebuttals and dare I say attention :phehe:  In a way the site admin should applaud your efforts at keeping this place going :dance:

Attention is the last thing I seek. For the life of me I have never understood the concept of all rounder so I bring it up. You just cannot excel in two things, not at that level. That is why I bump up some of the old threads as a reminder. I have different views but I am very comfortable in my skin.

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

Attention is the last thing I seek. For the life of me I have never understood the concept of all rounder so I bring it up. You just cannot excel in two things, not at that level. That is why I bump up some of the old threads as a reminder. I have different views but I am very comfortable in my skin.

So what was Kallis, Botham, Kapil, Klusener, they r rare but worth their weight in Gold, believe if Sachin had more mental fortitude he would have been in the list of great all rounders as well

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2 hours ago, MCcricket said:

So what was Kallis, Botham, Kapil, Klusener, they r rare but worth their weight in Gold, believe if Sachin had more mental fortitude he would have been in the list of great all rounders as well

And you prove my point. 100 years of Indian cricket and that is the only name that comes up all the time.

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6 hours ago, Khota said:

And you prove my point. 100 years of Indian cricket and that is the only name that comes up all the time.

We also had 1 fast bowler n now we have 20 bowlers who can touch 145, the culture was missing, I see many multi dimensional cricketers coming up now, Dubey, Shankar, Pandya I rage him highly, Mavi and Nagarkoti could be , 

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4 hours ago, MCcricket said:

We also had 1 fast bowler n now we have 20 bowlers who can touch 145, the culture was missing, I see many multi dimensional cricketers coming up now, Dubey, Shankar, Pandya I rage him highly, Mavi and Nagarkoti could be , 

20 bowlers touching 145 is to be expected. 20 all rounders is a pipe dream.

I frequently get mocked on this forum when I state that you need two different types of human bodies that can bowl or bat. It is impossible to do both.

A convenient example is someone who competes in 100/200 m in olympics finds it difficult to compete in 400 m. And to run marathon it is a completely  different body structure.

Shankar was a bust. Dubey will be a bust and Pandya will be hit and miss.

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Not saying its a sin but always wonder why only Pakistani players cant speak English. Every player from India, BD, SL or even AFg speaks in English or atleast broken English but Pakistanis cant. Why?

We should always be proud of our culture/language but one need to accept that English is the globally accepted language and not being able to speak a single line in this day and age is embarrasing. And before people bring Messi and other Latin American footballers in comparison , those countries were never an English colony...so its somehow understandable. A south asian country like Pakistan not speaking english is bit difficult to digest.

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18 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Not saying its a sin but always wonder why only Pakistani players cant speak English. Every player from India, BD, SL or even AFg speaks in English or atleast broken English but Pakistanis cant. Why?

We should always be proud of our culture/language but one need to accept that English is the globally accepted language and not being able to speak a single line in this day and age is embarrasing. And before people bring Messi and other Latin American footballers in comparison , those countries were never an English colony...so its somehow understandable. A south asian country like Pakistan not speaking english is bit difficult to digest.

That is a choice they made. Europeans do speak some English but Spanish speaking people could care less. French absolutely hate it and that is another extreme.

 

Us desis have a lot of complex. Growing up kids going to convent schools could speak english and were considered better. Folks like us coming from middle class background and struggling to make ends meet were always looked down upon. It has to do more with the shallow culture of India than superiority of a language. I for one love punjabi and I was always intrigued by Bengali.

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16 hours ago, kirkutfan said:

Shaheen should get credit for speaking in English, despite not being comfortable with it. He is trying to get better at something he is not good at. Meanwhile the  journalist has shown that he can’t learn anything- just happy being a smug little idiot.

Most journalists use twitter for networking and building 'popularity'. This moron was catering to his market by making this 'joke'.  

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6 hours ago, Khota said:

20 bowlers touching 145 is to be expected. 20 all rounders is a pipe dream.

I frequently get mocked on this forum when I state that you need two different types of human bodies that can bowl or bat. It is impossible to do both.

A convenient example is someone who competes in 100/200 m in olympics finds it difficult to compete in 400 m. And to run marathon it is a completely  different body structure.

Shankar was a bust. Dubey will be a bust and Pandya will be hit and miss.

It ain't a oxymoron, odds r less but when If have a combinations of skills with athletecism, the biggest limitation is what it takes out of your body and not the ability, forgot Chris Cairns, Vettori even Sehwag to me was underrated spinner and better then a Jayant Yadav or Sundar

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3 hours ago, MCcricket said:

It ain't a oxymoron, odds r less but when If have a combinations of skills with athletecism, the biggest limitation is what it takes out of your body and not the ability, forgot Chris Cairns, Vettori even Sehwag to me was underrated spinner and better then a Jayant Yadav or Sundar

When we were playing street cricket the best atletic guy was the allrounder. Butthat is street level. Once you progress to professional ranks not only do you need different body frames but the skill set is so unique to develop that you cannot excel in two formats. You do not have time to develop in two formats. Due to amatureism in cricket you still see it but it does not heppen in any other sport.

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