Stop Comparing our youngsters to WI youngsters in terms of power game, those guys are genetically better for that role

[Frustrated]

Our poor bowling made Windies power hitters look better than they actually are.  Let's not forget that Windies are languishing at the buttom of t20 ranking for very long time (with these so called power hitters)

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, mani sha said:

Would love to see the power hitting against shami and bumrah 

Shami already has been beaten in ipl n international t20 cricket

6 minutes ago, mani sha said:

think our spinners were cannon fodder and dew helped . Not much to look into . 
they are little stronger but then they ain’t that nimb

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Another diff....look how our tm has criticised pant. We hve dropped him n rahul in a format where they were doing well

 

Look how hetymer has been persisted despite being so shitty for a long time. 

A lot of the problem is with the coach and captain and their arrogant man management. Our near full strength team is getting beaten by SA and WI missing so many regulars. SL will thrash us next month as well.
 

Nearly 10-12 T20s would have been wasted due to reluctance of big two to take rest completely and continued pathetic backing of our kaptaan’s friends. No wonder we are at no. 5 in T20s and could soon be 6 or 7.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, ShoonyaSifar said:

A lot of the problem is with the coach and captain and their arrogant man management. Our near full strength team is getting beaten by SA and WI missing so many regulars. SL will thrash us next month as well.
 

Nearly 10-12 T20s would have been wasted due to reluctance of big two to take rest completely and continued pathetic backing of our kaptaan’s friends. No wonder we are at no. 5 in T20s and could soon be 6 or 7.

Yup they live in fear that they ll loose with youngtsers..,.yes that will happen to but they have also been loosing with so called seniors

[vvvslaxman]

I understand we lack power. But when it comes to timing we were always superior. Guys like Rohit sharma, Yuvraj singh, Pandya are great timers. At this point they don't wait for the ball. They indulge in too many pre-meditated shots. They should look at Raina's batting in the last overs. He rarely premeditates. At best he would give room. But he would still play accordingly. Watch Yuvi/Raina going nuts. In the last 5 overs Raina made 50 

 

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

3 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Our poor bowling made Windies power hitters look better than they actually are.  Let's not forget that Windies are languishing at the buttom of t20 ranking for very long time (with these so called power hitters)

WI play most T20s without their regulars. Gayle, Charles, Bravo, Russel, Brathwaite will all be back for T20 WC. 

[vvvslaxman]

Personally i think Sanju samson should be given a go. He is a better timer than power striker. I know he is predominantly a frontfoot player. 

[Suhaan]

16 minutes ago, Shaukat said:

Indians Are Not Born to be Fast Bowlers, indians Can Not Hit....

 

Imagine how it feels being an indian

Pakistani are not born beggars

Imagine how it feels being a pakistani

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

Personally i think Sanju samson should be given a go. He is a better timer than power striker. I know he is predominantly a frontfoot player. 

He also is a top 3 player ....he has been dominated by pant in ipl. He himself hasnt been that successful in middle order

[vvvslaxman]

Only 2 days back KL Rahul hit a 100 meter six.

[SecondSlip]

Pooran averages 40 in list A cricket and has a strike rate of 144 in T20 cricket. He’s a very special white ball cricketer for WI considering he’s a wicket keeper as well. I have seen his keeping for KXIP in IPL and he’s much better than Pant with the gloves. 
 

Pooran’s batting looks so much more solid and dependable than Pant as well. The guy has all the shots in the book and relies more on timing rather than brainless hoicks like Pant. Anyone with 1% of cricket knowledge can see that Pooran is a way better white ball batsman than Pant. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I understand we lack power. But when it comes to timing we were always superior. Guys like Rohit sharma, Yuvraj singh, Pandya are great timers. At this point they don't wait for the ball. They indulge in too many pre-meditated shots. They should look at Raina's batting in the last overs. He rarely premeditates. At best he would give room. But he would still play accordingly. Watch Yuvi/Raina going nuts. In the last 5 overs Raina made 50 

 

 

We dont lack it but WI are better then us....

Bangladesh lacks power hitter.

Rohit is a timer

Yuvi had a combo of power n timing

Pandya power player 

Raina also had the gift of timing

 

Rahul iyer can do that job let these guys settle. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

We dont lack it but WI are better then us....

Bangladesh lacks power hitter.

Rohit is a timer

Yuvi had a combo of power n timing

Pandya power player 

Raina also had the gift of timing

 

Rahul iyer can do that job let these guys settle. 

Raina's major strength was placement. He could hit the ball through unusual areas. Even if it is a miscue it will land safely. He had this incredible confidence he could take on any bowler. Even the best bowler in the end overs.  

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

Pooran averages 40 in list A cricket and has a strike rate of 144 in T20 cricket. He’s a very special white ball cricketer for WI considering he’s a wicket keeper as well. I have seen his keeping for KXIP in IPL and he’s much better than Pant with the gloves. 
 

Pant ipl s/r is 169 and he dominated pooran

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Pooran’s batting looks so much more solid and dependable than Pant as well.

Solidity is tested more in test where he is yet to make a place. Did u see semi final.....how on earth didnt pant look solid. He looked most solid

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The guy has all the shots in the book and relies more on timing rather than brainless hoicks like Pant. Anyone with 1% of cricket knowledge can see that Pooran is a way better white ball batsman than Pant. 

10-20 matches men nhin decide hota who is better. If such short samples was taken kambli number at start outshined tendulkar....

Many ppl thought kaif will go ahead of yuvi when he won us natwest. Some i remeber even thought mongia will go ahead of yuvi when he scored 159 and did well in WI to

 

Also pooran has backing of WI team, pant has been on edge. 

Edited December 8, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

Raina's major strength was placement. He could hit the ball through unusual areas. Even if it is a miscue it will land safely. He had this incredible confidence he could take on any bowler. Even the best bowler in the end overs.  

Raina was a gifted player no denying that ....

[SecondSlip]

Had Pooran’s ancestors stayed back in India, then he would have been the perfect replacement to Dhoni  

[Straight Drive]

28 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Another diff....look how our tm has criticised pant. We hve dropped him n rahul in a format where they were doing well

 

Look how hetymer has been persisted despite being so shitty for a long time. 

Very good point regarding Hetmyer. Lucky to play with average of 14 and sr of 116 in WI side who are world class in this format.

[Suhaan]

15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Pant ipl s/r is 169 and he dominated pooran

Solidity is tested more in test where he is yet to make a place. Did u see semi final.....how on earth didnt pant look solid. He looked most solid

10-20 matches men nhin decide hota who is better. If such short samples was taken kambli number at start outshined tendulkar....

Many ppl thought kaif will go ahead of yuvi when he won us natwest. Some i remeber even thought mongia will go ahead of yuvi when he scored 159 and did well in WI to

 

Also pooran has backing of WI team, pant has been on edge. 

Yes,indeed ,poor guy Pant this team management ditched him when he needed their backing like all young players do

He is batting well within himself

Nobody is talking about Kohli s struggle today ,infact he is all at sea at any number other than  3

He too killed the momentum

Edited December 8, 2019 by Suhaan

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

 

My tentative order would look like Shaw, Rohit, Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Hardik, Dube, Sundar, Kul/Cha, Bhuvi/Chahar, Bumrah.

ull drop iyer ?

[SecondSlip]

12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Pant ipl s/r is 169 and he dominated pooran

Solidity is tested more in test where he is yet to make a place. Did u see semi final.....how on earth didnt pant look solid. He looked most solid

10-20 matches men nhin decide hota who is better. If such short samples was taken kambli number at start outshined tendulkar....

Many ppl thought kaif will go ahead of yuvi when he won us natwest. Some i remeber even thought mongia will go ahead of yuvi when he scored 159 and did well in WI to

 

Also pooran has backing of WI team, pant has been on edge. 

Hahahaha I love how you completely ignored my point on List A (Domestic ODI) cricket. So you brought in IPL where even a 40 year old Dhoni bats like Bradman. 
 

Oh so you want to talk about the World Cup? Well did you know that Pooran scored 118 with 4 sixes chasing 339 against Sri Lanka coming in at #5 with his team’s score at 70-3! Here’s the reference: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/1144521/sri-lanka-vs-west-indies-39th-match-icc-cricket-world-cup-2019

 

Just pay close attention when both of them are batting and you can see that Pooran can play shots all around the ground and maintain his shape and not throw his wicket away. Pant is inferior in all 3 of these qualities. 
 

Pant has been on the edge? Really? The guy has played all our LOI matches since the World Cup ended! But I do agree with you that he is a good test cricketer and should never have been dropped for Saha!