vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 If Irfan pathan is around as a young guy he would be the all rounder batting at 7. Back then he had to bat at 8 or 9. Irfan and Yusuf finished a match against SL. Irfan also finished a match with Jadhav. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: If Irfan pathan is around as a young guy he would be the all rounder batting at 7. Back then he had to bat at 8 or 9. Irfan and Yusuf finished a match against SL. Irfan also finished a match with Jadhav. People talk about IPL and all domestic talent. Who are finishers for IPL teams and how many are from India?We need to assess that list first. Link to comment
maniac Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: If Irfan pathan is around as a young guy he would be the all rounder batting at 7. Back then he had to bat at 8 or 9. Irfan and Yusuf finished a match against SL. Irfan also finished a match with Jadhav. Forget them remember the famous Srinath-Kumble chase against Australia. These days you don't expect our 6-7 finish games like that. Link to comment
sandeep Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, putrevus said: People talk about IPL and all domestic talent. Who are finishers for IPL teams and how many are from India?We need to assess that list first. That job in the IPL is outsourced to phoren hitters. Very few Indians who can do that job. Hence the relative market value of even Dubey is high, let's not even talk about Hardik Pandya - who is legit world-class in that role of a lower order hitter. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, sandeep said: That job in the IPL is outsourced to phoren hitters. Very few Indians who can do that job. Hence the relative market value of even Dubey is high, let's not even talk about Hardik Pandya - who is legit world-class in that role of a lower order hitter. A reason why KKD is never going away. Another guy on his day is capable of taking on any attack. Pace/spin/slower ball/bouncer. sandeep 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: A reason why KKD is never going away. Another guy on his day is capable of taking on any attack. Pace/spin/slower ball/bouncer. And soon he ll be in contention again Actually he hasnt done much wrong in t20 wud be a good choice. Sky is also there what doesnt help him lack of another skill- bowling or wk. So its very important that dube comes good Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: And soon he ll be in contention again Actually he hasnt done much wrong in t20 wud be a good choice. Sky is also there what doesnt help him lack of another skill- bowling or wk. So its very important that dube comes good If KKD comes in, he should come in as a keeper. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, vvvslaxman said: If KKD comes in, he should come in as a keeper. Yup if pant doesnt do well ill take dk rather kishen or samson. Ill still give pant 2 more series - WI odi series and SL t20 series. If he fails ...my choice wud be dk Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I would play KKD in my t20 team over Pant anyday.We don't have anyone in the system who is half decent as him.I like Pant but he still needs to develop more to be successful in t20s.Let him play odis and tests. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, sandeep said: That job in the IPL is outsourced to phoren hitters. Very few Indians who can do that job. Hence the relative market value of even Dubey is high, let's not even talk about Hardik Pandya - who is legit world-class in that role of a lower order hitter. It is not by choice, if domestic hitters are there, they would use them too.Pandya was doing it for MI nicely. Link to comment
sandeep Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, putrevus said: It is not by choice, if domestic hitters are there, they would use them too.Pandya was doing it for MI nicely. Of course - Goutham had a moment or 2 for RR, but he's more of a bowler who can slog, not a consistent hitter. By definition, such players are rare. Not just in India. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, sandeep said: Of course - Goutham had a moment or 2 for RR, but he's more of a bowler who can slog, not a consistent hitter. By definition, such players are rare. Not just in India. No England , Australia, WI have good hitters and NZ to some extent have decent hitters.India other than Pandya have none, even Pandya is unproven. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 THat GUrkreet singh showed some potential. But not that much though. Link to comment
maniac Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, putrevus said: No England , Australia, WI have good hitters and NZ to some extent have decent hitters.India other than Pandya have none, even Pandya is unproven. With Maxwell gone don’t think Australia have too many crazy hitters down the order. They are like us as well Top 3 dependent. Warner-Finch and Smith. Carey etc are proper batsmen. Link to comment
maniac Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: If KKD comes in, he should come in as a keeper. Rahul should keep and open. If Extra slot opens can play a lottery player like Dube maybe or even Sundar. 7 bowling options. If that is too much can replace either Dube or Sundar with another batsman like Pandey Making Rahul keep can open up our combos Rohit Rahul (WK) Kohli Iyer Pandya Dube Sundar Bhuvi Shami Kuldeep Bumrah Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, maniac said: Rahul should keep and open. If Extra slot opens can play a lottery player like Dube maybe or even Sundar. 7 bowling options. If that is too much can replace either Dube or Sundar with another batsman like Pandey Making Rahul keep can open up our combos Rohit Rahul (WK) Kohli Iyer Pandya Dube Sundar Bhuvi Shami Kuldeep Bumrah That is a light weight lower order. Unreliable after Pandya. Cricspin 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: T20 is going that route as well. Ideally 4,5,6 should be more dangerous in T20 than top 3. so i saw cricbuzz just now and realised there was a game and apparently India won a series as well double lol -- Super happy. But one game Pants goes up and gets out cheap and top three of Rohit/ not Dhawan but a new third wheel KL rahul and Kohli bat well and Shreyas bats 0 balls for 0 runs a thread started complaining over dependence on top three as a trend from Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli days. OK. Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: iyer was playing mistake ??? we won by a huge margin mistake is not playing iyer up the order and win by 220 runs rohit entury pantu century iyer , kohli 50. India makes 383 runs in 20 over and bowls out WI for 163 and wins by 220 runs Thats what we want Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Vilander said: so i saw cricbuzz just now and realised there was a game and apparently India won a series as well double lol -- Super happy. But one game Pants goes up and gets out cheap and top three of Rohit/ not Dhawan but a new third wheel KL rahul and Kohli bat well and Shreyas bats 0 balls for 0 runs a thread started complaining over dependence on top three as a trend from Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli days. OK. Nothing to do with this match. This has been the trend for a while. Top order clicks till the key match. They get out quickly in that match. We just implode. Like in the last match scored 18 runs in last 3 overs posted a below par total. Edited December 12, 2019 by vvvslaxman Link to comment
Khota Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: iyer was playing mistake ??? we won by a huge margin . It was moronic to send Pant over Iyer. That shows you how stupid Shastri and Kohli combo is. Link to comment
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