Gollum Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Usual suspects losing their **** Ultimately it all came down to AIADMK, if they had voted against this bill citing SL Tamils it would have been totally justified. But they didn't, expressed regret over not including SL Tamils but still went ahead and supported BJP. Bear in mind this will go against them in next assembly elections but they did what Amma would have done... Not just here, IIRC it was the only party that stood by GOI during/in all of the below: Balakot Art 370 abrogation Triple Talaq ban UAPA amendment Had a hand in Ayodhya as well, pro-temple and sent construction material almost 30 years ago during the movement...Jaya always maintained a temple had to come up there. They may lose elections, become unpopular, face ridicule/hate/threats etc but deserve credit for showing spine in these politically contentious issues. Amma was one of the rare politicians who backed Modi when it was popular to hate him, she was proud of Indic roots, unabashedly Hindu in a Dravidian state, put nation first...talked against LTTE/Prabhakaran in the 90s. Important day this and would never have happened without these guys. I am sure Akalis would have backed out if Sikhs weren't included, SS ran away like cowards....AIADMK is now the closest/truest ally of BJP and Modi/Shah should realize that and reciprocate. All efforts must be made to help AIADMK at the state level, keep DMK out. AIADMK is much better than the best BJP can aspire to be in TN. All hail Amma and well done EPS-OPS...congrats @velu Edited December 11, 2019 by Gollum beetle, Real McCoy, Norman and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 @Laaloo time to appreciate , they saved the day !!! Real McCoy, velu, Norman and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 ADMK wont get any minority votes .. they really dont need to bother about what Muslim or christian voters think and ADMK government was in life support earlier .. without bjp's support admk government might have toppled within 6/7 months after ammas death judge + ex governor sathasivam and amit shah share a good rapport .. he is a relative of our CM EPS.. when bjp wanted to screw sasikala & co , EPS was also a target .. but sathasivam mediated between admk and shah and brought EPS under modi/shahs hold Gollum, diga, Norman and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 What about BJD, YSRCP, TRS, TDP (Naidu supported it) ? This was a smart stitched coalition. Time to do it for UCC. randomGuy and AuxiliA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: What about BJD, YSRCP, TRS, TDP (Naidu supported it) ? This was a smart stitched coalition. Time to do it for UCC. TRS went against the bill, very vocal in fact. About others, difference is 1. AIADMK supported BJP in ALL the contentious issues, same can't be said about others. They either opposed or abstained during UAPA, TT, 370 etc...hell JDU opposed 370 abrogation 2. AIADMK did this despite no mention of SL Tamils in the bill. Had the future of persecuted Telugu/Odia/Sikh migrants from some country been on the line doubt they would have helped the govt. This is the crucial difference. Edited December 11, 2019 by Gollum randomGuy, diga and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Gollum said: @Laaloo time to appreciate , they saved the day !!! Temple construction will be done with India cements only raki05, Norman, sergio04 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Temple construction will be done with India cements only If that happens @Laaloo will join the brotherhood. Edited December 12, 2019 by Gollum raki05, Laaloo, Real McCoy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Gollum said: TRS went against the bill, very vocal in fact. About others, difference is 1. AIADMK supported BJP in ALL the contentious issues, same can't be said about others. They either opposed or abstained during UAPA, TT, 370 etc...hell JDU opposed 370 abrogation 2. AIADMK did this despite no mention of SL Tamils in the bill. Had the future of persecuted Telugu/Odia/Sikh migrants from some country been on the line doubt they would have helped the govt. This is the crucial difference. It also helps that some of the SL Tamils have been quite the a$$holes. I have heard from some people to not trust them. I never met anyone who was a SL Tamil. Lots of them are quite decent I've heard from people living abroad but some of them hold deep set grudges against SL and by extension India. These are the people who may fall into the trap of pro-ltte sentiments. I saw some prabhakaran photos in the jallikattu protest. Indian tamils on the whole don't have any sympathy for LTTE. It is my opinion that the party by Seeman NTK is used to gather traction among the SL tamils. I'm not saying that all of them are like that. But I would be skeptical and wait it out. Don't trust them until they show they are not interested in anti social elements and integrate well into India. The regular SL tamils have expatriated to other countries, living in SL or got killed by the SL govt. SL Tamil diaspora have created most of the South Indian type temples in Canada, UK, Europe and Australia. LTTE tries to gain sympathy from them by playing the Tamil card and play with their emotions. Basically LTTE bothers them and begs them money to fund whatever it is that they do. In my opinion, they are like the begging mafia we have in India. These pro-LTTE tamils call Indian Tamils as being dumb, brainwashed, cowardly, impure, etc. I say screw these pro-LTTE Tamils. We don't need Prabhakaran photos in Chennai. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Temple construction will be done with India cements only mama is iyer.. he will give cement only for shiva temple .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, velu said: mama is iyer.. he will give cement only for shiva temple .. mama also likes tirupati balaji. don't know about temple of ram, which is a vishnu avatar though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Build a 300 ft Amma Statue of Healthy Living. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Temple construction will be done with India cements only Thala reveiwed it Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Build a 300 ft Amma Statue of Healthy Living. Eh No thanks. But won't be surprised if it happens. So much wasteful spending on people's money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 TRS went against the bill, very vocal in fact. About others, difference is 1. AIADMK supported BJP in ALL the contentious issues, same can't be said about others. They either opposed or abstained during UAPA, TT, 370 etc...hell JDU opposed 370 abrogation 2. AIADMK did this despite no mention of SL Tamils in the bill. Had the future of persecuted Telugu/Odia/Sikh migrants from some country been on the line doubt they would have helped the govt. This is the crucial difference. I am not surprised but ashamed that TRS voted against it. KCR's Muslim appeasement in Telangana is at obnoxious levels. He wouldn't want to hurt the sentiments of his dear Hyderabadi Muslims. Afterall they make about 40% of Hyderabad population. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk mishra and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just to rub some salt, I hope ADMK come with a idea of mtual agreement between Indian and Srilanka where by non Muslim Sri Lankan Tamils will be allowed in India and vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Gollum said: Usual suspects losing their **** Ultimately it all came down to AIADMK, if they had voted against this bill citing SL Tamils it would have been totally justified. But they didn't, expressed regret over not including SL Tamils but still went ahead and supported BJP. Bear in mind this will go against them in next assembly elections but they did what Amma would have done... Not just here, IIRC it was the only party that stood by GOI during/in all of the below: Balakot Art 370 abrogation Triple Talaq ban UAPA amendment Had a hand in Ayodhya as well, pro-temple and sent construction material almost 30 years ago during the movement...Jaya always maintained a temple had to come up there. They may lose elections, become unpopular, face ridicule/hate/threats etc but deserve credit for showing spine in these politically contentious issues. Amma was one of the rare politicians who backed Modi when it was popular to hate him, she was proud of Indic roots, unabashedly Hindu in a Dravidian state, put nation first...talked against LTTE/Prabhakaran in the 90s. Important day this and would never have happened without these guys. I am sure Akalis would have backed out if Sikhs weren't included, SS ran away like cowards....AIADMK is now the closest/truest ally of BJP and Modi/Shah should realize that and reciprocate. All efforts must be made to help AIADMK at the state level, keep DMK out. AIADMK is much better than the best BJP can aspire to be in TN. All hail Amma and well done EPS-OPS...congrats @velu Coz this was necessary,dharmo rakshati Rakshita, don't give a * dummeels say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Eps is the new bal t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Joking aside Nice little alliance developing in tn. Even pmk voted with gov i think. Bjp aiadmk and pmk need to have multiple decade alliance. Easier said than done. Lets see how local polls go. Aiadmk have sidelined local bjp unit but have been very supportive of modi central gov. For good reason Modi chose Tn to host Xi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 1:28 PM, velu said: ADMK wont get any minority votes .. they really dont need to bother about what Muslim or christian voters think and ADMK government was in life support earlier .. without bjp's support admk government might have toppled within 6/7 months after ammas death judge + ex governor sathasivam and amit shah share a good rapport .. he is a relative of our CM EPS.. when bjp wanted to screw sasikala & co , EPS was also a target .. but sathasivam mediated between admk and shah and brought EPS under modi/shahs hold Admk has had majority vote share without muslim vote. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, Vilander said: Admk has had majority vote share without muslim vote. Excellent and astute analysis. Great insight. I agree. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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