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Babar Azam - an ATG in making?

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how does it matter? he dropped a sitter. Whether he got Kohli out or not.
Its called obsession. These guys are obsessed with Kohli. Not only fans but also their ex cricketers, so called pundits everyone. I thought after the a$$ whopping by 10 wicketd on tuesday...these jokers will stay underground for few days. But no shame [emoji23]

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I think Babar is a very different type of player as compared to Sharma or Kohli and hence a comparison cannot be driven. 

 

Babar is the ideal player for Pakistan who will hold things up and score consistently. Recently he has improved his power game though with a successful t20 stint with somerset as well at a healthy strike rate and hopefully it would improve further gradually. 

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For anyone to draw down comparisons with likes of Kohli & Sharma they need to know that both these guys have 10k+ ODI Runs @ 50/50+ Average. Comparisons are lame. 

 

Babar needs to make sure that he bats well consistently and since he is likely to be the captain, he should look to get two solid openers from somewhere. 

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9 minutes ago, rock777 said:

Son your diaper is wet go get it changed instead of crying

That is not diaper BC...that is chaddi...don't be in a hurry and lick that chaddi...let your mama wash it fully

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So far his recent hundreds have been on dead pakistan pitches against piss poor and toothless bowling from SL/Bangladesh. If he is making the same hundreds in SENA countries i would deffo make the list Fab 5 as he would have redeemed himself to be included in the elite list of Test batsmen.

 

Even batters like Shan Masood are making tons so then you really need to take this performance as an expected.

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56 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

So far his recent hundreds have been on dead pakistan pitches against piss poor and toothless bowling from SL/Bangladesh. If he is making the same hundreds in SENA countries i would deffo make the list Fab 5 as he would have redeemed himself to be included in the elite list of Test batsmen.

 

Even batters like Shan Masood are making tons so then you really need to take this performance as an expected.

He scored 100 in aus and also 97 in next innings

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Gobar Azam is like our own Rayadu feast on bd, sl and wi. After so much of exploit he hardly won anything for Pakistani. Only thing I remember is a wc chase against weakest Sena country where fat ass Harris sohail played faster than Gobar.  In test most of his score are in dead rubber or Pakistani have no hope for a victory and opponents were also not trying that hard. In the match where he scored 100 even Yasir shah scored more than him. 

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Gobar Azam is like our own Rayadu feast on bd, sl and wi. After so much of exploit he hardly won anything for Pakistani. Only thing I remember is a wc chase against weakest Sena country where fat ass Harris sohail played faster than Gobar.  In test most of his score are in dead rubber or Pakistani have no hope for a victory and opponents were also not trying that hard. In the match where he scored 100 even Yasir shah scored more than him. 


Looks like someone is upset :giggle:

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1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Differ . 

He is reaching world class in stature . And took him 4 years to reach there and guy works very hard at his game . 

Should give credit where due . 

 

Exactly. He has been improving in tests for the last year or so and has always been a gun LOI player. Of course ATG status is still a long way away but nothing to say he can't make it.

 

as far as feasting on poor quality sides at home, you can only play the opposition in front of you. Over an extended career he will end up playing varied strengths, conditions and pitches. If not good enough, he will get found out.

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11 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Its called obsession. These guys are obsessed with Kohli. Not only fans but also their ex cricketers, so called pundits everyone. I thought after the a$$ whopping by 10 wicketd on tuesday...these jokers will stay underground for few days. But no shame [emoji23]

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Not just Kohli.  After MS Dhoni led India to a WC, they tried to make a Dhoni out of Salfalaaz, delusionally thinking that he is anywhere near the same cailbre.  They have been so starved of a half-decent batsman, now that they have one in Barber Hajmola, they are quick to anoint him and put him in that top echelon of batsmen.  The more they try to do that before Babar has earned it, the more delusional they look.  But it can't be helped. These delusional greenbros "Ki Zehniyat" hi aisi hai.

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3 hours ago, ganeshran said:

Exactly. He has been improving in tests for the last year or so and has always been a gun LOI player. Of course ATG status is still a long way away but nothing to say he can't make it.

 

as far as feasting on poor quality sides at home, you can only play the opposition in front of you. Over an extended career he will end up playing varied strengths, conditions and pitches. If not good enough, he will get found out.

All of that is fine, but the problem is when morons take a handful of games and make absurd claims like "Babar has outperformed Virat" etc.  

 

Azam is actually a quality bat, but the OTT nonsense around him invites ridicule.

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5 hours ago, sandeep said:

All of that is fine, but the problem is when morons take a handful of games and make absurd claims like "Babar has outperformed Virat" etc.  

 

Azam is actually a quality bat, but the OTT nonsense around him invites ridicule.

There are always blowhards, but usually we notice them more when they are comparing their new players with our stalwarts. 

 

One glance at the sports shows in hindi news channels is proof enough. The delusion and idiotic chest thumping is beyond belief. 

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One of the intrinsic quality of ATG batsmen is they convert their tons into huge knocks of 200+ even against top Test teams. Azam got out on 143 even after being well set against the poor bowling attack of BD. If he can't even score big runs against poor test teams then it going to be hard to believe he is ATG in making.

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2 hours ago, Vijy said:

azam is a quality bat, and unlike many Pak cricketers he takes work ethic seriously and does his best to improve. with all that said, it is too premature to anoint him as an ATG.

Agree , Babar is making steady progress , let him score some tons in England, SA and other places and once his tally of centuries reached beyond 25, with some other match winning knock, only then we can start ATG, discussion. Its almost annoying to even talk about ATG at this point. 

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34 minutes ago, First class said:

Agree , Babar is making steady progress , let him score some tons in England, SA and other places and once his tally of centuries reached beyond 25, with some other match winning knock, only then we can start ATG, discussion. Its almost annoying to even talk about ATG at this point. 

yes. too much polarization in both camps - some dismiss him completely whereas others hype him up to an ATG. he is already one of the most promising batsmen in WC, so let us sit back and watch how he develops.

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11 minutes ago, Vijy said:

yes. too much polarization in both camps - some dismiss him completely whereas others hype him up to an ATG. he is already one of the more promising batsmen in WC, so let us sit back and watch how he develops.

We need better openers to support Babar. Fakhar has been found out and Imam is very limited. 

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1 minute ago, Autonomous said:

We need better openers to support Babar. Fakhar has been found out and Imam is very limited. 

to me, it's a no brainer that shan masood should be one of the openers. he can consolidate at one end and score at a SR of 80-85. the other opener can be chosen to be more of an aggressive bat. masood also has a stellar List A record of 54 avg, 82 SR and 12 100s in 90 innings.

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2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

to me, it's a no brainer that shan masood should be one of the openers. he can consolidate at one end and score at a SR of 80-85. the other opener can be chosen to be more of an aggressive bat. masood also has a stellar List A record of 54 avg, 82 SR and 12 100s in 90 innings.

I think Sharjeel will come back. 

 

Rizwan Hussain & Zeeshan Malik are promising openers but still early days for them. Rizwan looks very good with power hitting ability and left hand advantage. 

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On 2/9/2020 at 2:17 AM, Straight Drive said:

One of the intrinsic quality of ATG batsmen is they convert their tons into huge knocks of 200+ even against top Test teams. Azam got out on 143 even after being well set against the poor bowling attack of BD. If he can't even score big runs against poor test teams then it going to be hard to believe he is ATG in making.

I disagree, it takes some time for some batsmen to score big hundreds.Tendulkar took a decade to score his double hundred.Kohli also took a long time to reach his double hundred but he now has most double hundreds by an Indian batsmen,

 

 

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On 2/10/2020 at 11:20 AM, putrevus said:

I disagree, it takes some time for some batsmen to score big hundreds.Tendulkar took a decade to score his double hundred.Kohli also took a long time to reach his double hundred but he now has most double hundreds by an Indian batsmen,

 

 

yes, and attapattu scored several 200s but only a (rabid) SL fan would call him a world-class-type ATG batsman.

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He is a good batsmen but hyping him like he is some ATG only pakistani can do. Let me tell you this, had he been in India he has not played even 50 games including test,odi and t20 or may be couldn't even get a chance as well  considering so much of competition in top order.  On the contrary shaw,gill,pant and jaiswal kind of batsmen would already been part of pak regular international team and hyped like babar as an another atg in making. Heck even DK had played 460 odi ,800 t20 and 200 test by now.:giggle:

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