Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: U cannot bowl 145+ without hard worl Every ones lacks somewere Evwn starc has struggled in test cricket in last few yrs Rabadda pathetic in india Coz shami is not a good t20 bowler Coz bumrah is once in generation cricketer How many 3 format players are there in world He has a good yorker but not as consistent as many...yorkers needs a lot of fitness which has never been his strength Ohh plz!! U r trying to push off as he is somewhat limited in his build up or hereditary.. yorker needs fitness.. yeah i concur.. however Yorker also needs practice which is most imperative & eminent.. if u deliver a 100 yorker length deliveries a day in the net.. then u will develop muscle memory to execute consistent yorker.. & it's not a rocket science to work that out... No one is born great or with ability.. practice & hard work don't hv any alternative.. if shami after years of international cricket doesn't possess the ability to deliver consistent yorker.. then it is not due to any limitations.. however its is because he doesn't practice enough yorkers in net... & This stand true for any other bowler who is failing horribly in death overs.. See their is no alternative for hard work.. i stand by it Edited December 22, 2019 by Amit228 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: Ohh plz!! U trying to push off as he is somewhat limited in his build up or hereditary.. yorker needs fitness.. yeah i concur.. however Yorker also needs practice which is most imperative & eminent.. if u deliver a 100 yorker length deliveries a day in the net.. then u will develop muscle memory to execute consistent yorker.. & it's not a rocket science to work that out... Yet u can name only very few who can do that....yea right its that easy Video game nhin. N even if lets say they dont work hard....thats our best option so gulp it down 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: No one is born great or with ability.. practice & hard work don't hv any alternative.. if shami after years of international cricket doesn't possess the ability to deliver consistent yorker.. then it is not due to any limitations.. however its is because he doesn't practice enough yorkers in net... & This stand true for any other bowler who is failing horribly in death overs.. See their is no alternative for hard work.. Its simple coz to some it comes easy to some it does and the fitness needed to bowl yorker is massive. Once wasim said u need thrice the energy to bowl yorker then a bouncer. Link to comment
Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Yet u can name only very few who can do that....yea right its that easy Video game nhin. N even if lets say they dont work hard....thats our best option so gulp it down Its simple coz to some it comes easy to some it does and the fitness needed to bowl yorker is massive. Once wasim said u need thrice the energy to bowl yorker then a bouncer. Wasim also said u need to deliver thousands of balls in the net to develop a consistent yorker thus building muscle memory for the same... Bumrah is bumrah of today because he practices.. behind the scenes.. day in & day out.. rest u can continue to linger on with mediocrity.. failing urself & team again & again.. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Amit228 said: Wasim also said u need to deliver thousands of balls in the net to develop a consistent yorker thus building muscle memory for the same... Who denies that but bowling then vs now is huge diff . yet on days akram got it wrong and wud have gotten more wrong in current era when he cudnt have an old ball which he cud scratch Quote Bumrah is bumrah of today because he practices.. behind the scenes.. day in & day out.. rest u can continue to linger on with mediocrity.. failing urself & team again & again.. highest wkt taker is mediocrity how many bumrah we n world has ? Edited December 22, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 A west indies fielder messed up a catch n rohit got a life Link to comment
Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Who denies that but bowling then vs now is huge diff . yet on days akram got it wrong and wud have gotten more wrong in current era when he cudnt have an old ball which he cud scratch highest wkt taker is mediocrity how many bumrah we n world has ? Mediocre death bowler with abysmal t20s record.... i stand corrected.. i nvr said he is not a good bowler.. however he is pretty limited owing to his work ethics.. will lose u more match in death overs like he almost did against bangers in world cup if not for bumrah.. if u wnt shami to feature regularly in odi & t20s.. then he need to make amend to his death bowling really quickly.. & start practicing in the net for where he lags.. Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Amit228 said: Ohh plz!! U r trying to push off as he is somewhat limited in his build up or hereditary.. yorker needs fitness.. yeah i concur.. however Yorker also needs practice which is most imperative & eminent.. if u deliver a 100 yorker length deliveries a day in the net.. then u will develop muscle memory to execute consistent yorker.. & it's not a rocket science to work that out... No one is born great or with ability.. practice & hard work don't hv any alternative.. if shami after years of international cricket doesn't possess the ability to deliver consistent yorker.. then it is not due to any limitations.. however its is because he doesn't practice enough yorkers in net... & This stand true for any other bowler who is failing horribly in death overs.. See their is no alternative for hard work.. i stand by it I too do not agree that he is in experienced . You can say that for 19-21 guys . Not for 26-27 years . With that logic by the time he is experienced he will be 31-32. Though i am not judging him with one game ., IN this match last 2 overs at the end by Kuldeep and Saini caused slip in match control. I would expect plan B when Saini found landing yorkers tough . In this match For Pollar , should have bowled full on his legs so that he is bit pushed to leg side and then bowl wide full balls on the off side . Again a short ball is a good option against Polladr . those 3 balls should have been tried at that stage. Edited December 22, 2019 by prudent_kreeda Amit228 1 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: what fcking power by pollard He is a demon. Still kuldeep was giving him full dollies to hit. Pollard could hit him out of the ground. Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 even Sharma jee got bored Nikola 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Amit228 said: Mediocre death bowler with abysmal t20s record.... i stand corrected.. i nvr said he is not a good bowler.. however he is pretty limited owing to his work ethics.. will lose u more match in death overs like he almost did against bangers in world cup if not for bumrah.. if u wnt shami to feature regularly in odi & t20s.. then he need to make amend to his death bowling really quickly.. & start practicing in the net for where he lags.. Then what are the better options let me knw I have never recommended him in t20 but odi he is bloody good. Death is not alone in odi neither he is awful in death Link to comment
adi B Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I've read some of the posts by @putrevus in this thread trying to defend Kohli's Team selection for the semis loss or trying to blanket over kohli for that defeat ,its laughable really the excuse he's making . Bhai you'll get no brownie points by defending kohli ,he's a proven choker ,yaha kuch nahi milega defend karke ! SK_IH, raki05, Laaloo and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
adi B Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Our bowling is not good enough for odis at home ,teams are smashing our bowlers in most of the games but then conditions are generally flat so only quality bowlers will survive such onslaughts . We should either concentrate on strengthening our middle order and bully teams by over scoring them like we used to or the way aus,nzl,England does or prepare more bowling friendly wickets or rather spinning wkts so that our spinners come to the party . These flat wkts leave us nowhere, neither the batsmen are great in outscoring tough opponents nor the bowlers get purchase from the pitch. We need to quickly decide Link to comment
raki05 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Amit228 said: Exactly!! I second this.. at age of 27.. u aren't supposed to pass of ur mediocrity in cloak of being young (Atleast to international cricket) ... International cricket now days is ruthless.. u perform, improve or just disappear.. where no one will ever bat an eye for u again.. same goes for shami, shardul & all other bowlers above age 25.. He just played his debut odi out of all fast bowlers including both teams he was the best and if you think revolutionary bhuvi whom no name players like sarfraz Khan carted like anything would have been better than these guys than good luck to you. Link to comment
maniac Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The Hindi commentary gave me a panic attack. Link to comment
raki05 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: what great side did NZ had in this Wc.... What great side did Pak had in 2017 CT You can't win discussion with this Kohli bhakt.....bloddy if I would be Kohli fun I would shut my moth before he win smth relevant in odi....than being stubborn and blind fool and brandishing him goat captain like his bhakt and Shastri ji. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 What exactly is the point of Kohli at 3 in another 300+ chase? Could have sent Iyer up to give him the experience but I guess letting go of another stat padding opportunity was too much Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, raki05 said: You can't win discussion with this Kohli bhakt.....bloddy if I would be Kohli fun I would shut my moth before he win smth relevant in odi....than being stubborn and blind fool and brandishing him goat captain like his bhakt and Shastri ji. actually im winnings He had debate with me saying dube is better bowler then hardik- i had the last laugh He debated that india has no talent,.....now he himself says he was wrong about iyer. Now m waiting for few years when it ll be mess coz their wud be so much talent He justified dhawan over rahul in t20- i had the last laugh He said rahul is not talent now he is making runs - so im having last laugh One more world tournament n kohli will screw it up again.....so one more debate won raki05 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 what a shot by KL Link to comment
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