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I believe this should be a more open tournament considering recent events. Obviously Djokovic is the favorite. But Nadal is almost invincible as far as the new gen is concerned. Nadal can only be beaten by Djokovic it seems and to a lesser extent by Federer. I think Djokovic will end up as no.1 seed due to his performance last year. Federer has the toughest route to the final without even considering his age. He has to beat the younguns first which he seems to be failing more and more. Then he has to beat Nadal and Djokovic. I also believe Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev have a chance to be the first one out of the big 3 to lift the cup. They have to avoid Nadal though. From their perspective, the increasing toughness scale this tournament will be Federer, Djokovic and Nadal. I haven't even mentioned Wawrinka. Can't wait for the tournament to begin :dance:

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Nadal can be beat by Djokovic and Federer on HCs, anybody else is highly unlikely considering his form the past 2 years. Djokovic, the younger and better HC player has a tougher job because of his sub-par record against Next Gen players, and his up and down form since last year. He would have a harder time defending his title. 

 

Federer has the toughest challenge, because of his age and HC competition, as well as Next Gen players finally being able to attack him, not to mention Nadal and Djokovic in SF/Final. 

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2 hours ago, I6MTW said:

Nadal can be beat by Djokovic and Federer on HCs, anybody else is highly unlikely considering his form the past 2 years. Djokovic, the younger and better HC player has a tougher job because of his sub-par record against Next Gen players, and his up and down form since last year. He would have a harder time defending his title. 

 

Federer has the toughest challenge, because of his age and HC competition, as well as Next Gen players finally being able to attack him, not to mention Nadal and Djokovic in SF/Final. 

Did you just paraphrase my original post :laugh:

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13 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Did you just paraphrase my original post :laugh:

Well, sort of. You did forget to mention Djokovic's abysmal record against the Next Gen affecting his path to the title.

There's also the forest fires and the heat affecting Australia seriously, there's a chance that may affect the tournament. If it grows worse, there's a chance the tournament may be cancelled/postponed.

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5 hours ago, I6MTW said:

Well, sort of. You did forget to mention Djokovic's abysmal record against the Next Gen affecting his path to the title.

There's also the forest fires and the heat affecting Australia seriously, there's a chance that may affect the tournament. If it grows worse, there's a chance the tournament may be cancelled/postponed.

I wouldn't call Djokovic's record as abysmal since he has a winning record against most except Tsitsipas who ties him. But he is vulnerable as of late. I did mention that this is the most open tournament of all in recent times. If at all, Federer is the most vulnerable against the next gen as he holds losing records against Theim and Zverev. Nadal is the matchup that is difficult for next gen.

I wouldn't pay much attention to forest fires. They happen all the time and its worse around Sydney. AO is in melbourne. They are playing a test match in Sydney with all the bush fire going on. So AO will resume as scheduled

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Federer's form is abysmal in this tournament. He avoided two close escapes, matches which he should've lost to journeyman. Road ends against Djokovic I'm afraid, Federer doesn't have the age, form or mental strength to beat Nole in his fav slam on RLA. The matchup will most likely be DJ in 3 sets. Only person left in the draw that can beat Nole playing well is Wawrinka, and maybe Thiem.

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What a win  for Thiem. Nadal tried to come back in the match hard and even equalized afterbeing down. 3-5 in the 4th set, but Thiem eventually was resilient under pressure in the tie break. Well done Dominic Thiem. His victory against Monfils in the pre-quarter finals (4th round) was sort of statement. 

 

Zverev is serving the best among the remaining four guys in the tournament. He won yesterday mainly because of the way he served to Wawrinka in the 2nd and 3rd set. 

 

Thiem vs Zverev could be a good match up. Djoker is surely favorite here, however, do not leave out Thiem or Zverev. We have seniors on one side with 36 slams, and on other side of the draw we have two young guns waiting to win their first slam. I think this will one of the best grandslams ending in recent times. 

 

 

 

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Tournament is Djokovic's to lose. 

Federer has no chance of winning.

Thiem is too mentally and physically exhausted after the Nadal match, he won't have the energy to go thru DJ despite matching up well with him the last few years. 

Zverev, will just bend over to DJ like he usually does, with a scoreline similar to last year's AO final. This is quite possible since it would be Zverev's first GS final if he reaches. The pressure would be enormous. 

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Federer was never gonna win this match with his form and injury hampering his movement. He did well to not sustain a beating. He was injured as he was clearly trying to shorten the points, speeds reducing etc. He went all out in the first set, but if you are struggling with form, ageing, and fitness issues, that redlining is not gonna last, once Nole stopped being nervous and clowning around, he started playing better , near his best. Obviously he would run away with the match. Even if Fed won the first set, this would've been a 4 sets loss for him. 

But a lot of positives to take from the tournament, like his mental strength and fighting spirit has certainly improved. The first set he played against Djokovic till 5-2 was the best he played whole tournament. 

He certainly has gotten better at the Djokovic meetings. If he's in decent form and 100% fit  in the future, and those are big ifs, then this matchup will be very competitive throughout the year. 

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Disappointed for Federer. It was sad seeing him struggle to get down to play some shots. His five set matches against Millman and Sandgren had its toll. He has only himself to blame there. His mental strength is underestimated by most people. We wish he plays like this without feeling any pressure as he did in this tournament. That brings the best out of him. he has to play his brand of tennis rather than focusing on the weaknesses of opponents. He is an inspiration for many as he is still playing at this age. His best chance may be at wimbledon.

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So, it's Thiem vs Djokovic. Can Thiem channel his inner Wawrinka and give Djokovic his scars? Has Thiem's time finally come? We'll find out tom. If Thiem is physcially and mentally ready, then this will be a great match. Beating Djokovic, that too in the Final of AO in RLA, is not an easy task. Only Nadal at PC in RG is a tougher task in tennis. But Thiem certainly has the game to trouble Djokovic. 

 

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9 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Disappointed for Federer. It was sad seeing him struggle to get down to play some shots. His five set matches against Millman and Sandgren had its toll. He has only himself to blame there. His mental strength is underestimated by most people. We wish he plays like this without feeling any pressure as he did in this tournament. That brings the best out of him. he has to play his brand of tennis rather than focusing on the weaknesses of opponents. He is an inspiration for many as he is still playing at this age. His best chance may be at wimbledon.

It's all age. Father Time catches up to everyone. 

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13 hours ago, I6MTW said:

So, it's Thiem vs Djokovic. Can Thiem channel his inner Wawrinka and give Djokovic his scars? Has Thiem's time finally come? We'll find out tom. If Thiem is physcially and mentally ready, then this will be a great match. Beating Djokovic, that too in the Final of AO in RLA, is not an easy task. Only Nadal at PC in RG is a tougher task in tennis. But Thiem certainly has the game to trouble Djokovic. 

 

I doubt Thiem can take out Djokovic. He crumbles under pressure but I expect it to be a close match. Its also AO. Novak has reached it 7 times and won everytime he has reached the finals. Thiem is an underdog and winning the championship for the first time will be playing on his mind so will be the strength of the opponent. If he does do it, this will be the making of him. I want it to go the full distance and make the match interesting no matter who wins. Lets see a super tie breaker in the 5th set and see if Theim has what it takes to win it against the king of teibreakers in his own den

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Disgusting Final. Thiem had DJ on the ropes but couldn't cross the finish line. Nole's behavior on court in the Final was appalling as well. The better player almost never wins in tennis lately. Medvedev against Rafa, Thiem now, Federer against DJ. Unlike the prev Gen, the current gen has the game to beat the big 3 in their decline but lack the mental strength to do it consistently or cross the finish line when in a winning position. 

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4 hours ago, I6MTW said:

Disgusting Final. Thiem had DJ on the ropes but couldn't cross the finish line. Nole's behavior on court in the Final was appalling as well. The better player almost never wins in tennis lately. Medvedev against Rafa, Thiem now, Federer against DJ. Unlike the prev Gen, the current gen has the game to beat the big 3 in their decline but lack the mental strength to do it consistently or cross the finish line when in a winning position. 

I won't call it disgusting but the boring king of unforced errors 30+ player won against a younger offense oriented player. Thiem did have Nole on the ropes after the third set but Nole took an "MTO" for reasons unknown and Thiem didn't even ask what the reason was. Federer or Wawrinka would have badgered the umps about it and made sure they don't allow it again. Thiem was being nice and passive about it. After the timeout, Nole was a different player and the momentum swung towards him. Maybe we should investigate every match where he is being pushed hard. Does he take MTOs in every such match. Nole lost only one set in the entire tournament leading up to the finals and had an extra day of rest and recovery. Why the need for a MTO.

Also laying hands on the ump would result in a code violation. He got away with it. He was accusing the ump as an attention seeker for enforcing time. These are the benefits of being in the big 3.

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All hail King Nole :hatsoff:

Well on his way to become GOAT, won 5 out of last 7 slams, who would have thought when Pepe Imaz was working his magic? 

Once again goes to show that at the highest level, mental toughness is most important, since 2014 SW19 Nole's play on big points has been something else. His ROS is the single greatest shot in tennis history even though he has found Fed's serve challenging in recent times. 

I think both him and Nadal will pass Fed's GS tally by end of 2021. 

Olympics very important for both Fed and Nole, the player who wins it will have an advantage in the GOAT debate after their careers are done, last chance at elusive gold for both. 

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Nole should pass Fed in weeks at #1 tally this year itself. As important as GS count IMO. NCYGS, 5 ATP finals, career 'Golden Masters', 34 M1000 with chance of adding more....wow !!!

 

40-15 will haunt me for the rest of my life. 2010 USO, 2011 USO as well, and add 2015 USO BP comedy show...Fed is his own worst enemy. Also 0-3 in SW19 finals against Nole jeez, the Serbian owns this match-up. Nole and Nadal both invincible in their favourite majors !!!

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On 2/2/2020 at 7:07 PM, I6MTW said:

Disgusting Final. Thiem had DJ on the ropes but couldn't cross the finish line. Nole's behavior on court in the Final was appalling as well. The better player almost never wins in tennis lately. Medvedev against Rafa, Thiem now, Federer against DJ. 

Not enough to be the better player, need to play the big points better to become champion. For instance our fav Fed was worse than Roddick in the 2009 SW19 final. 

 

I think the last 2 GS finals have been won by the better players, disgusting to see younger legs giving up in the 5th, that's even worse than their mental * up. Fed was superior against DJ last June, no question....that choke is unforgivable. 

 

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35 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not enough to be the better player, need to play the big points better to become champion. For instance our fav Fed was worse than Roddick in the 2009 SW19 final. 

 

I think the last 2 GS finals have been won by the better players, disgusting to see younger legs giving up in the 5th, that's even worse than their mental * up. Fed was superior against DJ last June, no question....that choke is unforgivable. 

 

2009 W final was ugly for sure. Roddick deserved that one. Some say Fed's choke in the 5th set of W 2019 is payback/poetic justice for being on the receiving end of that choke.

The younger players just don't have that killer instinct, X factor, and champion mentality to be clutch and pull not victories from defeat. They are even outlasted physcially by 30 year olds.

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All said and done we are never going to see another era like this, Big 3 era will always be the gold standard of men's tennis, what quality yaar !!! Enjoy it while it lasts. In 2040 some kid may hold GS, M1000, ATP Finals, #1 records by a huge margin but for me Fedalovic will be top 3 of all time forever. Some epic stories to share with our grandkids one day. 

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