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Shame that shardul is playing ahead of saini...

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Getting totally disgusted with this Mumbai lobby....

 

When does this curse called shastri leave indian cricket...

 

For God sake....why do we need him for his batting skills when jadeja is already present as bowling allrounder....

 

Now, there is only one wicket taking bowler in middle overs and its Kuldeep Yadav.....

 

Absolutely puke-worthy....totally disgusting...

 

Shardul is ahead because of his useless wickets ...is a total shame....every wicket was because batsmen was going after him....

 

Even a small kid would know that Saini is miles ahead of shardul

 

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2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Agsinst quality bowling 

 

Kuldeep  17 off 15

Shardul.  13 off 10

 

Not much of a difference.

 

We can play Kuldeep at 8 ... he can bat a bit ... then play Shami, Saini and Bumrah.

 

Unfortunately that is not how they think.

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Saini has shown this ability to suddenly get a set batsman out, using his extra pace and accuracy.

 

With Australia 145 without loss  ...  we needed Saini.

 

ODIs are won by taking wickets and not by a No.8 batsman scoring 8 extra runs.

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As long as cheerleader and kohli stay in charge, expect illogical moves and no trophies. They should have both lost their position after the world cup. Thakur is not an odi or test player. At best a utility player in t20 (2 overs and 30 fast runs) but even there it's questionable. Saini missing out is something I can't even fathom. With kohli,  never expect  good players to be groomed well, they can only succeed on their own.

 

This series is waste of time with t20 wc coming but losing badly here may be good for us in long term. Kohli should be at 3 and we have no middle and lower order.

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Unfair comparison. Shardul is a bowler who can bat bit.  Replacing Shardul with Saini would mean we are playing 4 tailenders. Saini should hv played ahead of Shami (who has been garbage in his LOI career)
Kuldeep is definetly not tail ender....

He got first class 50s

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With the current form & confidence of Aussies , every bowler will go for runs on these roads .

Lets not over react.

Surprise was total domination. Hope next 2 matches are much closer even if we loose. 

For me Loosing would be good  for the future . Should result in change in playing strategy , change in personnel in 50 overs team with an eye to build a new team with only 2-3 players above 30 .

 

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What were Shami and Bumrah doing, eating grass, playing Thakur over Saini was the right call. You cannot play a match with just five batsmen.If you want all strike bowlers then those bowlers need to handle the bat too.

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16 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Unfair comparison. Shardul is a bowler who can bat bit.  Replacing Shardul with Saini would mean we are playing 4 tailenders. Saini should hv played ahead of Shami (who has been garbage in his LOI career)

Shami n kuldeep both can hold the bat, shami is not consistent but tailender arent nyways 

Opp bowler is starc who even will have biggest batsman in trouble in death so a bit of batting that shardul can will be nulified against him. It can work against some other but not someone like starc so better play a bowler. 

If batting was all that they needed ashwin n jadeja wud have never been discarded for kulcha

 

 

 

No point playing someone for extra 10-20 % batting skill against this guy, even the better ones find it hard against him

 

 

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Blah, against Starc & co most players are bunnies. Shardul is only useful on typical 90's style Indian wickets which are dry & slow down massively, especially in the second innings. He should be picked ahead of Saina only in 1 or 2 instances, mainly against weaker teams. He is fairly 1D with his bowling & 0.5D with his batting.

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16 hours ago, express bowling said:

Saini has shown this ability to suddenly get a set batsman out, using his extra pace and accuracy.

 

With Australia 145 without loss  ...  we needed Saini.

 

ODIs are won by taking wickets and not by a No.8 batsman scoring 8 extra runs.

Kohli and some cheut here should understand this simple fact....if batsmen can't bat bowler should not expect to cover their ass by doing batting.....Did we ever ask why our batsmen never balls isn't it on the same token they should also ball 3-4 overs and  if Kohli, Rohit and Dhwan can't ball 2-3 over every match they should be booted out for jadhav, Shankar and Dubey coz they can ball 3-4 over. Only a nonsense Kohli fan can come with such logic.

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2 minutes ago, raki05 said:

if Kohli, Rohit and Dhwan can't ball 2-3 over every match they should be booted out

That's a separate argument. though realistically we do need at least a few overs from part timers in LO, the fact that we've given up on this line of thought is truly BS. You can't go in every game with just 5 bowlers or 3 & 2 A/R thinking they'll get away every time! We need some part time spin or something from the top 4 or 5 :bumsmack:

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1 minute ago, R!TTER said:

That's a separate argument. though realistically we do need at least a few overs from part timers in LO, the fact that we've given up on this line of thought is truly BS. You can't go in every game with just 5 bowlers or 3 & 2 A/R thinking they'll get away every time! We need some part time spin or something from the top 4 or 5 :bumsmack:

Realisticaly yes. But some new potential batting or bowling talent we can't disard because he is not good at other skill. Example in  case is saini , kuli always make way for mediocre bowlers like Thakur, jadeja coz they can bat a bit.

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38 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

That's a separate argument. though realistically we do need at least a few overs from part timers in LO, the fact that we've given up on this line of thought is truly BS. You can't go in every game with just 5 bowlers or 3 & 2 A/R thinking they'll get away every time! We need some part time spin or something from the top 4 or 5 :bumsmack:

Yes we always do specially incase of injury

In wc pak game- bhuvi got injured shankar was there

Last yr asia cup panyda got injured jadhav was there.

In wc semi - pandya got injured n we didnt have anyone so he had to complete overs with injury 

 

Going with 5 bowler is asking for trouble as if in any game anyone gets injured we ll be in serious trouble. These player put 100% in field anyone can get injured anytime

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21 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Unfair comparison. Shardul is a bowler who can bat bit.  Replacing Shardul with Saini would mean we are playing 4 tailenders. Saini should hv played ahead of Shami (who has been garbage in his LOI career)

Problem is how many matches we loose due to bowler batting skill.bowler main job is wkt taking abilities. I don't think Shradul can contribute with batting against good bowling side. You should always choose players on their primary skill and if we need both batting and bowling we should look for all-rounder.

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