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KL Rahul vs Pant (only keeping skills)


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5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

They played Pandey. Pant should replace Pandey at 6.  We do need pant as a lower order hitter.

No they should play bowler in that spot.You can't go in the match with just five bowlers.Pandya when he comes back takes that spot.Rahul if he does not keep ruins the balance of the side.

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37 minutes ago, ganeshran said:

we need a specialist keeper. All you need is one or two misses at crucial times and the batting advantage provided by Rahul is gone. 

That is where the question how good Pant as a keeper. He made elementary mistakes like collecting balls infront of the stumps. 

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You need batsmen who can become future Kohli, Rohit not future Jadhav, Rayudus.  This is why it is important to draft in pedigree batsmen like Gill. If you are going to wait until the top spots to open to bring him in you will miss your bus. We don't have world cup for 3 years. or even Agarwal.  Pant is way too unreliable. 

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49 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

You need batsmen who can become future Kohli, Rohit not future Jadhav, Rayudus.  This is why it is important to draft in pedigree batsmen like Gill. If you are going to wait until the top spots to open to bring him in you will miss your bus. We don't have world cup for 3 years. or even Agarwal.  Pant is way too unreliable. 

Gill will get his chances in Test cricket first.Rohit if he flops in NZ will not get many more chances.Question again is Gill like top three is one dimesional and who will he replace in this team.It would be wrong to remove Iyer without giving him proper chance to prove himself.

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Rahul's keeping skills were on par with Pant. His keeping to spinners was top draw and he collected all the wild throws from the deep with no one backing him up. Pant has missed several such throws. I guess he can keep for the short term and play a batter or a bowler. Pant has not lived up to his name. He needs to work on his batting. Its not always sixes and fours in LOI. The only thing KLR needs to worry about is in the longer periods of time, batting in the top order and keeping can take its toll. Imagine having to squat 300 times while fielding and coming in as an opener or one down. I don't know what the tm thinks. Maybe he can bat even down the order like he did today. But Iyer in ODI has some weakness with the short ball. KLR should come in at least 4.

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22 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

That is where the question how good Pant as a keeper. He made elementary mistakes like collecting balls infront of the stumps. 

I think he did that once or twice. He worked on that and got better.

 

Pant is no Saha but he is still a much better keeper than Rahul. He has to get more consistent at batting no doubt.

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16 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Gill will get his chances in Test cricket first.Rohit if he flops in NZ will not get many more chances.Question again is Gill like top three is one dimesional and who will he replace in this system.It would be wrong to remove Iyer without giving him proper chance to prove himself.

Not Iyer. Pandey should not be there.  We cannot back half baked players like him just because he can play once in a blue moon innings.  You cannot keep on waiting. Let Gill get chances in these meaningless bilaterals.  Even if he fails ( which Pandey and Iyer already do) it doesn't matter. In broader scheme of things you have to back the best potential out there.  Atleast 5 years back we had Dhonji, Yuvraj, Raina. So hard to come in and replace them. But now? We have so many useless passengers who don't really grab their chances. 

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28 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Not Iyer. Pandey should not be there.  We cannot back half baked players like him just because he can play once in a blue moon innings.  You cannot keep on waiting. Let Gill get chances in these meaningless bilaterals.  Even if he fails ( which Pandey and Iyer already do) it doesn't matter. In broader scheme of things you have to back the best potential out there.  Atleast 5 years back we had Dhonji, Yuvraj, Raina. So hard to come in and replace them. But now? We have so many useless passengers who don't really grab their chances. 

What is the point in giving a player like Gill on and off chances, he will lose his confidence.Pandey can be sat down next match if they want to go with a sixth bowler.

 

You don't pick a young player unless you can give him sustained run.Not playing Gill is the right call.

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