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When I first liked a girl and started dreaming about her, then I was told that I had already fallen in love with her. 

 

Question is simple, do the homosexuals also fell in real love with each other, and do they also dream about each other? 

 

If yes, then how could we say that homosexuality is "unnatural" while LOVE could never be unnatural. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

When I first liked a girl and started dreaming about her, then I was told that I had already fallen in love with her. 

 

Question is simple, do the homosexuals also fell in real love with each other, and do they also dream about each other? 

 

If yes, then how could we say that homosexuality is "unnatural" while LOVE could never be unnatural. 

 

 

Who defines what is natural and what is unnatural? ... human society. How do you know the homosexual couples have unnatural love? I know many homosexual couples (gay and lesbian) who are in happy committed relationships. Your ignorance comes from the fact that you have never known people in homosexual relationships that work. In essence there is not much difference except the sexual part. And who am I to judge what is moral or immoral when what to consenting adults do in the privacy of their home as long as it does not hurt anyone. 

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2 hours ago, velu said:

one of my collagemate did marry a girl ( arranged i guess ) , had kids and then divorced her 3/4 years back ..

last year he married a mexican guy ( in USA ) and living happily 

I had a friend who told me about falling in love with a guy. 

 

I was a religious person at that time. I threatened him either to end his love, or to end friendship with me. He started crying, but I showed no mercy (or perhaps my heart wanted to show mercy, but religion in my brainwashed mind strangled this mercy to death). It was a mistake of my friend to open his heart to a religious person like me. 

 

My friend became ill. Firstly his parents sent him to relatives in another city. Later I heart that he went to Canada. 

 

Today I feel I am a criminal of breaking a heart which was full of love.

 

I wish I could contact my friend again, and show him my face full of remorse and repentance. 

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2 hours ago, velu said:

one of my collagemate did marry a girl ( arranged i guess ) , had kids and then divorced her 3/4 years back ..

last year he married a mexican guy ( in USA ) and living happily 

Maybe he is a drug mule working for the sinaloa cartel

 

 

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3 hours ago, velu said:

one of my collagemate did marry a girl ( arranged i guess ) , had kids and then divorced her 3/4 years back ..

last year he married a mexican guy ( in USA ) and living happily 

As long as he is paying child support, good for him.  

 

If he is a dbag and has left his wife and kids to fend for themselves, just because he was "brave" enough to embrace his sexuality doesn't earn him brownie points.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

As long as he is paying child support, good for him.  

 

If he is a dbag and has left his wife and kids to fend for themselves, just because he was "brave" enough to embrace his sexuality doesn't earn him brownie points.

 

 

Drug mule now makes more sense

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5 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

Drug mule now makes more sense

I don't know if he might be a drug mule but he clearly likes to take the load in the back. If you catch my point

 

That is my homophobic joke of the day as it is Tuesday.

 

Tune in on Thursday for racist jokes

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21 hours ago, velu said:

one of my collagemate did marry a girl ( arranged i guess ) , had kids and then divorced her 3/4 years back ..

last year he married a mexican guy ( in USA ) and living happily 

Clearly this guy is brainwashed into this BS. No wild animal or people living in nature will indulge in this sick behavior. Also that guy screwed that girl's life and worsened her life by having kids with her. Who will marry her after this. I guess this case merits him paying alimony for life.

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19 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

I had a friend who told me about falling in love with a guy. 

 

I was a religious person at that time. I threatened him either to end his love, or to end friendship with me. He started crying, but I showed no mercy (or perhaps my heart wanted to show mercy, but religion in my brainwashed mind strangled this mercy to death). It was a mistake of my friend to open his heart to a religious person like me. 

 

My friend became ill. Firstly his parents sent him to relatives in another city. Later I heart that he went to Canada. 

 

Today I feel I am a criminal of breaking a heart which was full of love.

 

I wish I could contact my friend again, and show him my face full of remorse and repentance. 

Maybe that guy he is in love with was you. You dodged a bullet otherwise that bullet would be on your rear end :lol:

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10 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Clearly this guy is brainwashed into this BS. No wild animal or people living in nature will indulge in this sick behavior. Also that guy screwed that girl's life and worsened her life by having kids with her. Who will marry her after this. I guess this case merits him paying alimony for life.

Um, homosexuality is natural for a minority of ALL male populations in kingdom animalia. And for some, like sheep, homosexuality is actually a dominant trait. 

 

Also, if you wouldn’t marry a girl because her ex ditched her, it makes you a chewt. 

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13 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Maybe that guy he is in love with was you. You dodged a bullet otherwise that bullet would be on your rear end :lol:

even i was thinking the same...:phehe:...the emotion with which he opened the thread and explaining about that homo guy.... looks like he wanted to play on Alam Dar backfoot.

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14 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

 Also that guy screwed that girl's life and worsened her life by having kids with her. Who will marry her after this. I guess this case merits him paying alimony for life.

I believe that culprit is religious side of our society which still mostly homosexuality, and compel people with these trends to be heterosexuals.  

 

Obviously such people could not live happily in such compelled hetero relationship. It is same as if we are compelled to marry a homo and then live with them, and then we will also not be happy. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

I believe that culprit is religious side of our society which still mostly homosexuality, and compel people with these trends to be heterosexuals.  

 

Obviously such people could not live happily in such compelled hetero relationship. It is same as if we are compelled to marry a homo and then live with them, and then we will also not be happy. 

 

 

 

 

how about treatment of trans man/womanin Pakistan .. 

 

in india trans is always associated with trans woman ( physically male , mentally female ) ? :hmmm:

south india is very harsh on them , but its complete opposite in north india where they get blessings from them ..

any trans in our state use to move to mumbai few decades back :mi: 

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1 hour ago, velu said:

how about treatment of trans man/womanin Pakistan .. 

 

in india trans is always associated with trans woman ( physically male , mentally female ) ? :hmmm:

south india is very harsh on them , but its complete opposite in north india where they get blessings from them ..

any trans in our state use to move to mumbai few decades back :mi: 

Transgenders were never treated good among the religious Muslim circles. It is due to these orders to Muhammad where he cursed the effeminate and banished them from the cities. 

 

Sahih Bukhari:

The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, "Turn them out of your houses ." The Prophet (ﷺ) turned out such-and-such man, and `Umar turned out such-and-such woman.

 

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

 

Am effeminate man (mukhannath) who had dyed his hands and feet with henna was brought to the Prophet (ﷺ). He asked: What is the matter with this man? He was told: "Messenger of Allah! He imitates the look of women." So he issued an order regarding him and he was banished (from city of Madina) to an-Naqi'. The people said: Messenger of Allah! Should we not kill him? He said: I have been prohibited from killing people who pray (i.e. Muslim effiminate).

 

Therefore, question is what about the non-Muslim effeminate who does not pray? Should he be killed? 

 

Trans don't live in normal society in Pakistan, but they live in small groups of their own. 

 

Nobody seeks blessing from them in Pakistan. 

 

They were normally dancing in the parties and at times of marriages. It was the only occupation which they were allowed to practice. 

 

Nevertheless, with the rise of extremist Islam, now they are not even allowed to dance in the parties. They are in horrible financial conditions. Actually many transgenders were slaughtered in FATA and Peshawar (where Taliban got power). 

 

Nevertheless, Pakistani Supreme Court took notice of this and tried to bring some dignity to the transgenders since 2009. For the first time they got some basic human rights. 

 

Edited by Alam_dar

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10 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Um, homosexuality is natural for a minority of ALL male populations in kingdom animalia. And for some, like sheep, homosexuality is actually a dominant trait. 

 

Also, if you wouldn’t marry a girl because her ex ditched her, it makes you a chewt. 

Dude practice what you preach otherwise you are a hypocrite and the real chewt here. She not only had an ex but also has kids with him. Even in western societies, they say how brave she is but will never marry her. So its not like its a thrid world problem. Its universal. Same thing with the homosexuality. I don't buy this homo is a natural thing at all. Only caged animals exhibit homosexuality because its their instinct to mate and if you put two males in the same cage it will do its thing and those who want to advance this homo theory will take this as an example. You quoted a bad example with sheep. Sheep is a domesticated animal living in human captivity like cows and pigs. If homo was a dominant trait, how do they reproduce. Common sense is lacking in your post. I guess its not that common after all.

4 hours ago, velu said:

 

how about treatment of trans man/womanin Pakistan .. 

 

in india trans is always associated with trans woman ( physically male , mentally female ) ? :hmmm:

south india is very harsh on them , but its complete opposite in north india where they get blessings from them ..

any trans in our state use to move to mumbai few decades back :mi: 

South India is right on this. Look I feel bad about those who get kidnapped early and converted to trans but they are the ones who kidnap kids and turn them into trans. Its a self sustaining loop. They usually move to bigger cities which are more open to such practices. Bigger cities are more immoral and Mumbai is the most "modern" of all Indian cities

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1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

Dude practice what you preach otherwise you are a hypocrite and the real chewt here. She not only had an ex but also has kids with him. Even in western societies, they say how brave she is but will never marry her. So its not like its a thrid world problem. Its universal. Same thing with the homosexuality. I don't buy this homo is a natural thing at all. Only caged animals exhibit homosexuality because its their instinct to mate and if you put two males in the same cage it will do its thing and those who want to advance this homo theory will take this as an example. You quoted a bad example with sheep. Sheep is a domesticated animal living in human captivity like cows and pigs. If homo was a dominant trait, how do they reproduce. Common sense is lacking in your post. I guess its not that common after all.

 

As I wrote previously, I believe that it is not the fault of that man, but the fault of his family and the conservative society who don't recognise the presence of homosexuality, and thus FORCE and COMPEL such people to marry against their wishes, and then expect them to lead their whole of life in such unnatural way.  Therefore, if there is any criminal, then it is the family and the conservative society. 

 

1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

South India is right on this. Look I feel bad about those who get kidnapped early and converted to trans but they are the ones who kidnap kids and turn them into trans. Its a self sustaining loop. They usually move to bigger cities which are more open to such practices. Bigger cities are more immoral and Mumbai is the most "modern" of all Indian cities

Please think about it if the hate from the South Indian area is making any change to this situation or not. 

 

If transgenders are respected and given equal status in the society, then perhaps they don't have to turn to such crimes. 

 

Just look at the west, where they don't have this problem while transgenders have equal respect and basic human rights as others. 

 

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On 1/23/2020 at 5:39 AM, Real McCoy said:

Dude practice what you preach otherwise you are a hypocrite and the real chewt here. She not only had an ex but also has kids with him.

So ? Fyi, this is known as the Filipino model. Almost all Filipino gays have wives and a special friend and wife knows.

On 1/23/2020 at 5:39 AM, Real McCoy said:

Even in western societies, they say how brave she is but will never marry her.

100% false. 

On 1/23/2020 at 5:39 AM, Real McCoy said:

So its not like its a thrid world problem. Its universal. Same thing with the homosexuality. I don't buy this homo is a natural thing at all. Only caged animals exhibit homosexuality because its their instinct to mate and if you put two males in the same cage it will do its thing and those who want to advance this homo theory will take this as an example. You quoted a bad example with sheep. Sheep is a domesticated animal living in human captivity like cows and pigs. If homo was a dominant trait, how do they reproduce. Common sense is lacking in your post. I guess its not that common after all.

Stop making up nonsense. Sheep don’t live caged up, they roam pastures and there is plenty of evidence that most male sheep are bisexual by choice. And again, almost ALL animals exhibit homosexuality in nature, not caged. If you wish I can cite actual research evidence from natural observations on this. 

 

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1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

So ? Fyi, this is known as the Filipino model. Almost all Filipino gays have wives and a special friend and wife knows.

100% false. 

Stop making up nonsense. Sheep don’t live caged up, they roam pastures and there is plenty of evidence that most male sheep are bisexual by choice. And again, almost ALL animals exhibit homosexuality in nature, not caged. If you wish I can cite actual research evidence from natural observations on this. 

 

Have you seen sheep roaming in pastures. If not, you should check out of this debate. Your claims of homo in animals is from research :lol:. Whoever pays the piper picks the tune. There is ton of money being funneled into "prestigious universities" to make this homo thing seem more believable. This is how research is done in anglo centric countries. And you can't just say something is 100% false without explaining anything. Most western people are afraid to say something that may be considered sexist, homophobic, racist, etc so they weasle out of tough questions by saying the most politically correct speech which by itself means that they are not saying the truth. Infact most men regardless of where they are raised would avoid single moms. If not there would not be any single moms around as they would be married to someone again quickly. Sure some guy baptised in feminism may accept those women but mostly they don't. You dodged my question. Will you accept a single mom with kids as your wife. the answer is simple - yes or no.

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23 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

As I wrote previously, I believe that it is not the fault of that man, but the fault of his family and the conservative society who don't recognise the presence of homosexuality, and thus FORCE and COMPEL such people to marry against their wishes, and then expect them to lead their whole of life in such unnatural way.  Therefore, if there is any criminal, then it is the family and the conservative society. 

 

Please think about it if the hate from the South Indian area is making any change to this situation or not. 

 

If transgenders are respected and given equal status in the society, then perhaps they don't have to turn to such crimes. 

 

Just look at the west, where they don't have this problem while transgenders have equal respect and basic human rights as others. 

 

Are you sure? Why are there reports of children missing in most western countries. Where do they go. Transgender happens when someone cuts off their organs when they are young. No matter how they are treated, they will do such things. In India, they beg for money and they don't beg decently. Its almost harassment. And when they don't get what they want, they turn into dacoits and child kidnappers. There is a welfare board for them I believe. How better can you treat them. Its bad that that thing happened to them. But their behaviour is weird and they will not be accepted in society full stop.

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4 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Are you sure? Why are there reports of children missing in most western countries. Where do they go. Transgender happens when someone cuts off their organs when they are young. No matter how they are treated, they will do such things. In India, they beg for money and they don't beg decently. Its almost harassment. And when they don't get what they want, they turn into dacoits and child kidnappers. There is a welfare board for them I believe. How better can you treat them. Its bad that that thing happened to them. But their behaviour is weird and they will not be accepted in society full stop.

 

Bro, are you serious?

While I have never heart in the Western countries that transgenders kidnapped the children. 

These are normally women who kidnap the small babies, or the paedophile men who kidnap and rape the children. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Have you seen sheep roaming in pastures. If not, you should check out of this debate. Your claims of homo in animals is from research :lol:.

As in research paper on Jstor.

Sorry I was wrong - they are not mostly homos, they just have a much stronger than average predilection towards it: close to the 10% are exclusively Homo.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085551/

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Whoever pays the piper picks the tune. There is ton of money being funneled into "prestigious universities" to make this homo thing seem more believable. This is how research is done in anglo centric countries.

You may be right about the gender thing but not Homo. It’s accepted by science and we have evidence of it biologically in other animals. 

 

It also makes evolutionary sense to lower % of male parentage to increase chances  for superior genetic sample to prevail more, as most animal mating has alpha male + zillion females pattern in mammals. 

 

Also LOL at Homo being a western thing. India has the most open acceptance of homos in history FYI. Kama sutra and temple carvings are evidence of that. Your uprightness is more of a recent thing and Hindus were much more sexually liberated, much like the Greeks and the Romans. Our survival of sexual liberated nature is extensively derided and ( perverted ) by the Islamic invaders and Hindu modern uprightness is a factor of that. 

 

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Infact most men regardless of where they are raised would avoid single moms. If not there would not be any single moms around as they would be married to someone again quickly.

This is nonsensical since there are plenty of married or common law ( effectively married for all legal purposes) women with kids from prior marriage/relationships. That doesn’t mean all single moms would get married :bird:

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Sure some guy baptised in feminism may accept those women but mostly they don't. You dodged my question. Will you accept a single mom with kids as your wife. the answer is simple - yes or no.

Depends on the age of the kids. If they are super young, then yes. If older, maybe not unless it seemed stable enough.  and it’s  a pretty stupid question to ask a married man because my answer will always bias towards no as I am already married... 

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