Malcolm Merlyn Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The great Saha made 0. The next big thing Pant made 7. In the practice match, that is. Who should play the 1st test? Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Saha any day of the week, and Sundays to spare. He's by far the better keeper, in fact by an order of magnitude. And given how the ball seems (as read on cricinfo) to be moving, I don't see Pant scoring enough over Saha to make a difference. Whereas I do see Pant dropping or missing a few, where Saha may even take a few blinders to even out the game. That's the call I'd take. retired_hurt, vishalvirsingh, sandeep and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pant, 1st test we need to bolster our batting. Generally we are poor starters, should have enough batting strength at least to ensure we don't lose. I say this despite being a big fan of Saha (very much in the minority on this forum). diehardpacer, express bowling, Mosher and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: Saha any day of the week, and Sundays to spare. He's by far the better keeper, in fact by an order of magnitude. And given how the ball seems (as read on cricinfo) to be moving, I don't see Pant scoring enough over Saha to make a difference. Whereas I do see Pant dropping or missing a few, where Saha may even take a few blinders to even out the game. That's the call I'd take. it just seams on day -1 after that pitches become pancake also it doesnt seam that late like in england so keeping wont be as big an issue, pant kept well in england beetle and sandsaims 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pant averages around 45, and has 100s in Eng and Aus. beetle 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Against relatively strong test teams: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000 Wicketkeeper as designated wicketkeeper Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s RR Pant 2018-2019 7 13 1 512 159* 42.66 725 70.62 2 0 1 51 11 MS Dhoni 2006-2014 66 109 11 3716 224 37.91 6494 57.22 3 27 8 442 48 D Dasgupta 2001-2001 5 9 1 291 100 36.37 961 30.28 1 2 1 34 0 PA Patel 2002-2018 21 32 7 802 71 32.08 1572 51.01 0 6 4 112 1 KD Karthik 2004-2018 11 18 1 411 93 24.17 925 44.43 0 3 2 56 1 WP Saha 2012-2019 20 29 4 582 117 23.28 1346 43.23 1 2 5 57 7 diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pant should play because of his much better batting. Pant is good at catching the ball while keeping to pacers ... and that is what we will primarily need in tests in NZ. So, his keeping won't be a compromise in tests in NZ and other SENA countries. Mosher, beetle, mancalledsting and 1 other 4 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Saha, who else. He is the team's no. 1 keeper and should be playing both the tests in NZ. Team's captain and coach have publicly said Pant's keeping is not upto the mark. No way should they prefer someone who they believe isn't the best keeper in the squad. abc 1 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: it just seams on day -1 after that pitches become pancake also it doesnt seam that late like in england so keeping wont be as big an issue, pant kept well in england I'm not sure if that's enough of an advantage. I'd prefer the better wicketkeeper, which Saha is by far, and I'm not sure Pant brings enough in his batting to make up for the lack. What we'll probably see is Saha in the first Test, and then a relook in the second basis what happens in that first one. Link to comment
SUMO Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pant obviously. I hate mediocres sandeep 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: I'm not sure if that's enough of an advantage. I'd prefer the better wicketkeeper, which Saha is by far, and I'm not sure Pant brings enough in his batting to make up for the lack. What we'll probably see is Saha in the first Test, and then a relook in the second basis what happens in that first one. the guy has 2 100s overseas that someone like dhoni also cudnt manage so there is a diff and in overseas u need extra batting as well About keeping pant is not parthiv patel, he has kept well beetle 1 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SUMO said: Pant obviously. I hate mediocres Saha is one of, if not the best, pure wicketkeepers in the world right now. Whatever he is, it isn't mediocre. And if we're using his batting ability to call Saha mediocre, well one could very well call Pant a mediocre keeper. There's no way either of them is mediocre IMO. Edited February 14, 2020 by NameGoesHere sandeep, kirkutfan and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: I'm not sure if that's enough of an advantage. I'm not sure Pant brings enough in his batting to make up for the lack. u can see the diff 52 minutes ago, zen said: Against relatively strong test teams: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000 Wicketkeeper as designated wicketkeeper Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s RR Pant 2018-2019 7 13 1 512 159* 42.66 725 70.62 2 0 1 51 11 MS Dhoni 2006-2014 66 109 11 3716 224 37.91 6494 57.22 3 27 8 442 48 D Dasgupta 2001-2001 5 9 1 291 100 36.37 961 30.28 1 2 1 34 0 PA Patel 2002-2018 21 32 7 802 71 32.08 1572 51.01 0 6 4 112 1 KD Karthik 2004-2018 11 18 1 411 93 24.17 925 44.43 0 3 2 56 1 WP Saha 2012-2019 20 29 4 582 117 23.28 1346 43.23 1 2 5 57 7 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: u can see the diff Yes very fair point. However, is that 20 average difference between Saha and Pant enough to justify a dropped catch or missed stumping? I want t make it clear that Pant is the future and for my money I'd give him a long run in the shorter formats. But not in Tests as of now. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: Yes very fair point. However, is that 20 average difference between Saha and Pant enough to justify a dropped catch or missed stumping? as if saha cant drop or miss stumping , he can n he has to we are assuming that pant will miss a lot which is not the case.....the logic works if the keeper was parthiv or conditions were india(where bounce become invariable) or england (where ball swings late) neither is the case here 4 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: I want t make it clear that Pant is the future and for my money I'd give him a long run in the shorter formats. But not in Tests as of now. he has been best in test only I dnt get this future talk.....u keep a younger player on bench in name of future when a pressure game comes after years then ull say oh he has no experience....what is this conservative approach. Pant has already played in international test and done really well, he might fail but so does other. Pant is not the future but he is the present beetle 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 who ever keeps tomm when NZ-XI will bat will be the answer Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Abhi ek innings baaki hai na? Link to comment
zen Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Performances in SENA: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000 Wicketkeeper as designated wicketkeeper Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s RR Pant 2018-2019 7 13 1 512 159* 42.66 725 70.62 2 0 1 51 11 MS Dhoni 2006-2014 32 60 5 1731 92 31.47 3138 55.16 0 13 6 231 17 D Dasgupta 2001-2001 2 4 0 114 63 28.50 443 25.73 0 1 0 12 0 KD Karthik 2007-2018 4 7 1 128 63 21.33 307 41.69 0 1 2 16 0 PA Patel 2002-2018 10 17 3 268 62 19.14 595 45.04 0 1 3 37 0 WP Saha 2012-2018 4 8 0 119 35 14.87 321 37.07 0 0 2 9 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Quite obvious,Pant express bowling 1 Link to comment
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