SUMO Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 7 hours ago, NameGoesHere said: Saha is one of, if not the best, pure wicketkeepers in the world right now. Whatever he is, it isn't mediocre. And if we're using his batting ability to call Saha mediocre, well one could very well call Pant a mediocre keeper. There's no way either of them is mediocre IMO. Batting like tailender irrespective of keeping ability is mediocre in today's times. May be not in pre-gilchrist era. Pant's keeping was good enough during last overseas tours and he can improve. But saha cant improve his batting, its going downhill. Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Saha outclassed Watling both with bat and gloves when they came here in 2016. Hope Pant does the same this series, has the potential but unsure about his mental space atm. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Saha drops 0 catches Pant drops 7 hence Saha should play Laaloo, beetle, Nikola and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, zen said: Performances in SENA: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000 Wicketkeeper as designated wicketkeeper Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s RR Pant 2018-2019 7 13 1 512 159* 42.66 725 70.62 2 0 1 51 11 MS Dhoni 2006-2014 32 60 5 1731 92 31.47 3138 55.16 0 13 6 231 17 D Dasgupta 2001-2001 2 4 0 114 63 28.50 443 25.73 0 1 0 12 0 KD Karthik 2007-2018 4 7 1 128 63 21.33 307 41.69 0 1 2 16 0 PA Patel 2002-2018 10 17 3 268 62 19.14 595 45.04 0 1 3 37 0 WP Saha 2012-2018 4 8 0 119 35 14.87 321 37.07 0 0 2 9 2 Man played on Pattas lol such a deceiving stat New guy, abc, Adamant and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Rasgulla said: Saha drops 0 catches Pant drops 7 hence Saha should play How many catches did pant drop in australia.? I cant remember even a single one. Similarly he was quite good in windies. He holds the record for most catches taken in a single match. For heavens sake he is pant not kamran akmal. beetle and diehardpacer 2 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pant should play,this is the only format he can actually excel,Sahas skills are minimized outside Asia. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 hours ago, NameGoesHere said: Saha any day of the week, and Sundays to spare. He's by far the better keeper, in fact by an order of magnitude. And given how the ball seems (as read on cricinfo) to be moving, I don't see Pant scoring enough over Saha to make a difference. Whereas I do see Pant dropping or missing a few, where Saha may even take a few blinders to even out the game. That's the call I'd take. I agree. NameGoesHere 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 14 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: The great Saha made 0. The next big thing Pant made 7. In the practice match, that is. Who should play the 1st test? Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk we have not seen Saha keep yet. Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 guys as long as Saha can keep he should play. The guy attempts catches and reaches those that other international level keepers just look at slips attempting, its not even a contest. Link to comment
zen Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Appears as if Pant is keeping in the warm up game .... if so, right decision! PS 2.2 W Bumrah to Young, OUT, WA Young c †Pant b Bumrah 2 (8b 0x4 0x6) SR: 25.00 Edited February 14, 2020 by zen Laaloo, Ankit_sharma03 and Mosher 3 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Adamant said: How many catches did pant drop in australia.? I cant remember even a single one. Similarly he was quite good in windies. He holds the record for most catches taken in a single match. For heavens sake he is pant not kamran akmal. The fact that you are comparing him to Akmal shows his standards in first place. Afridi once holds fastest 100 record. Does that mean he is a best batsmen ? lol That record doesn't mean anything other than full credits to the bowlers. beetle, Nikola, abc and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
zen Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Pant is having a great game behind the stumps so far: WA Young c †Pant b Bumrah R Ravindra c †Pant b Yadav TL Seifert c †Pant b Mohammed Shami express bowling, beetle and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 19 hours ago, NameGoesHere said: Saha any day of the week, and Sundays to spare. He's by far the better keeper, in fact by an order of magnitude. And given how the ball seems (as read on cricinfo) to be moving, I don't see Pant scoring enough over Saha to make a difference. Whereas I do see Pant dropping or missing a few, where Saha may even take a few blinders to even out the game. That's the call I'd take. Pant was amazing in the overseas tours, particularly against pace. He took some amazing impossible takes during that time. I love how team management has convinced gullible people he is a poor keeper just because his confidence has dropped. Mission accomplished I guess beetle, Laaloo and diehardpacer 3 Link to comment
New guy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Vilander said: guys as long as Saha can keep he should play. The guy attempts catches and reaches those that other international level keepers just look at slips attempting, its not even a contest. Pant was doing the same in his initial international tours. beetle 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Rasgulla said: Saha drops 0 catches Pant drops 7 hence Saha should play Did you read Laxmand article about how dhoni was really poor and struggling with his keeping initially and how everyone supported him and he improved? Laaloo, beetle and Mosher 3 Link to comment
New guy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rasgulla said: Man played on Pattas lol such a deceiving stat Laxman has 0 100s in his entire career in england. Sehwag, dravid hhave 1 100 in Australia in their entire career. Of course they never played on pattas in SENA despite playing for so long The excuses seem more and more pathetic Edited February 15, 2020 by New guy diehardpacer, Mosher and beetle 3 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Saha not keeping in the only practice match before the 1st test. He hasn’t played a single competitive match since our last Test way back in November when he got injured. Is he fully fit? Link to comment
Tendulkar1996 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Pant,ball will swing with new openers and we need depth in batting. express bowling 1 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, New guy said: Pant was amazing in the overseas tours, particularly against pace. He took some amazing impossible takes during that time. I love how team management has convinced gullible people he is a poor keeper just because his confidence has dropped. Mission accomplished I guess I'm not saying Pant's a poor keeper, just that Saha is far better based on what we can see as recent form. Pant's confidence is something that ultimately only Pant can handle. My comparison isn't based on whatever TM thinks of him. It's what I have seen. Link to comment
New guy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said: I'm not saying Pant's a poor keeper, just that Saha is far better based on what we can see as recent form. Pant's confidence is something that ultimately only Pant can handle. My comparison isn't based on whatever TM thinks of him. It's what I have seen. Yes Saha is maybe our best all time keeper. Yet we preferred MSD over him in tests. In SENA we need the extra batting help, particularly because they often prefer to play with 5 bowlers Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
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