ShoonyaSifar Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Let’s look at who this TM will most likely target for the shameful surrender. 1. Pant - His career is almost over. They have messed him up mentally all tour and then out of the blue, thrust him for the tests. He did not look ready and should blame himself for blowing his chances. 2. Rahane - Senior batsman, another failure in SENA. Barring a miracle, he will be removed from the team 3. Pujara - Another poor series and the TM has already blamed his slow batting. TM and it’s media consorts will blame his lack of aggression for team’s poor batting 4. Vihari - Like Pant, will be blamed for not taking his chances and could be dropped from the team They will keep backing the bowlers and spinners pinning the blame on the above 4. Obviously no questions asked from the captain. Defence will be that our domestic cricket is poor, we have no young talent , captain can’t do much. Cricwala 1 Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Shaw. @maniac’s Hitman is coming back Vickydev 1 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) People really think Rahane will be dropped?They are still carryimg Kedhar Jadhav in ODIs,so what is the likelihood of someone as well connected as Rahane being dropped Edited March 2, 2020 by GautiMaan sandsaims, express bowling, sergio04 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 They will bring in Titan Shardul in place of Saini,poor guy will be removed Pant will surely disappear for an year and a half or maybe more sergio04 and raki05 2 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 As per past precedence, batting and fielding coaches Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 32 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: They will keep backing the bowlers and spinners pinning the blame on the above 4. What wrong have bowlers done this series? Get 160+190 (T1) and even Lloyd's quartet+Warne won't save you. This match they stepped up only for batsmen to give it away in 3rd innings. Why all the time only bowlers have to be blamed? What records have our batters created this series? express bowling and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 How many more excuses for Pant? This is getting boring now. Sure give him an extended run but every time he fails don't deflect blame. bowl_out and VT87 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: How many more excuses for Pant? This is getting boring now. Sure give him an extended run but every time he fails don't deflect blame. Do we have similar expectations from other wks or only Pant? Since when we started comparing a wk/bat with specialist batsmen. We never did that with Dhoni who does not have a single 100 overseas in his career. sergio04 and zen 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Do we have similar expectations from other wks or only Pant? Since when we started comparing a wk/bat with specialist batsmen. We never did that with Dhoni who does not have a single 100 overseas in his career. Why can't people accept when he fails? Why bring in CIA, Mossad, Putin, Obama, Xi, KFC every time to show as if he is the most wronged person in human history? Only Bakis do that nonsense. Whatever chances he has been given in shorter formats he failed miserably. In tests got a couple of 100s when match/series was already decided. Not saying he isn't good, not saying he hasn't been badly treated, but fanboyism beyond a point won't prove anything to anyone. Edited March 2, 2020 by Gollum The Dark Horse and VT87 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Do we have similar expectations from other wks or only Pant? Since when we started comparing a wk/bat with specialist batsmen. We never did that with Dhoni who does not have a single 100 overseas in his career. Just accept he failed, he is lacking in many areas, that he must improve, move on. Stop making him look like victim 24x7x365. This TM has mismanaged many youngsters, that is reality, no one is denying. But when some opportunity presents itself player must accomplish something. At least Pant is getting chances, look where Nair is atm. sarcastic 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Do we have similar expectations from other wks or only Pant? Since when we started comparing a wk/bat with specialist batsmen. We never did that with Dhoni who does not have a single 100 overseas in his career. i agree. Pant kept well. And it is not like Saha would have made a difference either with WK or batting .... If Saha had played, people would be like, Pant should have played, and so on Adi_91 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gollum said: What wrong have bowlers done this series? Get 160+190 (T1) and even Lloyd's quartet+Warne won't save you. This match they stepped up only for batsmen to give it away in 3rd innings. Why all the time only bowlers have to be blamed? What records have our batters created this series? We certainly failed with new ball, taking early wickets in all innings. Look at how NZ bowlers swing and took early wickets. We need an out and out swing bowler to support our seam bowlers bhakum20 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gollum said: Why can't people accept when he fails? Why bring in CIA, Mossad, Putin, Obama, Xi, KFC every time to show as if he is the most wronged person in human history? Only Bakis do that nonsense. Whatever chances he has been given in shorter formats he failed miserably. In tests got a couple of 100s when match/series was already decided. Not saying he isn't good, not saying he hasn't been badly treated, but fanboyism beyond a point won't prove anything to anyone. But you have no answered the question vis a vis Pant vs other keepers. If Dhoni was never held to these standards, why is suddenly Pant being held? Will you go for a better bat then? What is your point here? Adi_91 1 Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, New guy said: We certainly failed with new ball, taking early wickets in all innings. Look at how NZ bowlers swing and took early wickets. We need an out and out swing bowler to support our seam bowlers Their bowlers bowled better partly due to the fact that our batsmen let them to. Didn’t rotate strike and defensive techniques. Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, New guy said: We certainly failed with new ball, taking early wickets in all innings. Look at how NZ bowlers swing and took early wickets. We need an out and out swing bowler to support our seam bowlers Team selection is to blame. When we go to places like Eng/NZ, even RSA need Bhuvi. Since he was unfit we should have selected Chahar. New guy 1 Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Vihari may very well be the scapegoat they are looking for. Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, New guy said: But you have no answered the question vis a vis Pant vs other keepers. If Dhoni was never held to these standards, why is suddenly Pant being held? Will you go for a better bat then? What is your point here? I support Pant as keeper. I want him to be given an extended run in tests as well as T20s. Just that I don't believe in making excuses if he fails. Dhoni the test cricketer was a disgrace, esp what he did post 2011. Can't speak about others , at least for me he is no benchmark. The Dark Horse and New guy 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Rahane is mumbaikar he wont be removed. Saini,Pant,Vihari may be. Shradul the other mumbaikar will get a chance. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
RajBan Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Feel Rahane is very over rated. Surely he plays a good innings every now and then, and when in flow looks really good but does not have the discipline and consistency to be in the top 11. Link to comment
Vickydev Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Pant and Shaw are not coming back for atleast a couple of years. Vihari will be in the squad but be replaced by Rahul. Link to comment
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