Cancel the ODI series

[cowboysfan]

its highly irresponsible of BCCI to hold the ODI series when the corona virus is rapidly spreading around the country,imagine what a few infected asymptomatic individuals on these grounds can do.I am worried about my parents in Bangalore and have told them not to leave the house,putting 40 thousand people together in 3 cities is just dumb at a time like this.

[Gollum]

Yup, 40k+ people together in India is unheard of. Srsly some of you guys must visit India more often .

 

I too want to see the series cancelled, for entirely different reasons. 

[The Dark Horse]

13 hours ago, Gollum said:

Yup, 40k+ people together in India is unheard of. Srsly some of you guys must visit India more often .

 

I too want to see the series cancelled, for entirely different reasons. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenewsminute.com/article/12-coronavirus-cases-kerala-grandparents-family-italy-test-positive-119892%3famp

[R!TTER]

The numbers are artificially low because we haven't tested too many "likely" patients, the numbers will explode if we tests everyone with having symptoms similar to what nCoV patients have. The misinformation here & relative ignorance in India is staggering, Italy is in lockdown & this thing will spread over months, possibly years before we get to the end of it. The worst case scenario has in excess of a billion affected & millions dying worldwide, yeah the ICFers are taking this way too lightly 

[rkt.india]

32 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

The numbers are artificially low because we haven't tested too many "likely" patients, the numbers will explode if we tests everyone with having symptoms similar to what nCoV patients have. The misinformation here & relative ignorance in India is staggering, Italy is in lockdown & this thing will spread over months, possibly years before we get to the end of it. The worst case scenario has in excess of a billion affected & millions dying worldwide, yeah the ICFers are taking this way too lightly 

Why there are going to be more patients? Corona has been made too big a deal. It doesn't spread fast.  It is also not that dangerous. It has a very low mortality rate too. Other than China, no major country has large spread till now. only people who travelled to China will really be suspects. Ebola was far more dangerous proposition. There are big chances of virus dying by early April.

[kosingh]

39 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

The numbers are artificially low because we haven't tested too many "likely" patients, the numbers will explode if we tests everyone with having symptoms similar to what nCoV patients have. The misinformation here & relative ignorance in India is staggering, Italy is in lockdown & this thing will spread over months, possibly years before we get to the end of it. The worst case scenario has in excess of a billion affected & millions dying worldwide, yeah the ICFers are taking this way too lightly 

This isn't going away so soon. Cancel IPL but what about the thousands of other situations that involve crowds in India? 

[R!TTER]

18 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Why there are going to be more patients? Corona has been made too big a deal. It doesn't spread fast.  It is also not that dangerous. It has a very low mortality rate too. Other than China, no major country has large spread till now. only people who travelled to China will really be suspects. Ebola was far more dangerous proposition. There are big chances of virus dying by early April.

Because people have to be tested, you know how many cases were in the US before they took it seriously? Without tests or test kits the numbers are obviously going to be lower. Also in case you did not know ~ people infected with the Virus can infect others without showing symptoms themselves. It spreads from the air, like influenza & as I posted in another thread it might well go the route of Spanish flu except ~ here's another FYI, it is about 20x more fatal.

 

You must be off the grid then, Italy is in lockdown ~ over 10k cases confirmed last I checked, Iran as well with over 6k. Nope you really need to look this up. And when they end the lockdown, especially in China - because they will have to - the numbers will shoot up again!

 

Yeah you're way off the mark with Ebola, let's just say influenza kills at least 100x more people each year worldwide than Ebola, though what makes any contagion dangerous in not necessarily its fatality rate but how fast it spreads & of course mutations! In that regards, influenza & CoV strains have no parallel 

Edited March 11, 2020 by R!TTER

[kosingh]

Indian doctors are usually more willing to prescribe drugs/combo of drugs for unapproved uses. May just stumble upon a treatment. 

 

Ok wishful thinking. 

[R!TTER]

Your best bet is the immune system, at least for now! Stay healthy & don't overwork, overstress yourself till the time there's a cure or vaccine.

Edited March 11, 2020 by R!TTER

[ShoonyaSifar]

Why stop at canceling the ODI series? Close all the offices, malls, flights, trains, buses, lockdown the country.

[nevada]

1 hour ago, kosingh said:

This isn't going away so soon. Cancel IPL but what about the thousands of other situations that involve crowds in India? 

Sad but true. India took it very lightly and even if it is taken seriously, there's barely anything to fight it with. Warm weather is supposedly our safeguard against this but if that theory doesn't hold true, then we face disaster. China, Singapore, HK etc were able to bring the situation under control because of their people's respect(or fear, if you will) for authority. In India, people hate to follow any rule and hygiene is a rarity. Western countries can somewhat afford to have total lockdown situation but India doesn't have such luxury. People have to commute by bus, train, whatever means on crowded streets to get to work every day. I sincerely hope the worst case scenario doesn't play out here.

[mani sha]

1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

Because people have to be tested, you know how many cases were in the US before they took it seriously? Without tests or test kits the numbers are obviously going to be lower. Also in case you did not know ~ people infected with the Virus can infect others without showing symptoms themselves. It spreads from the air, like influenza & as I posted in another thread it might well go the route of Spanish flu except ~ here's another FYI, it is about 20x more fatal.

 

You must be off the grid then, Italy is in lockdown ~ over 10k cases confirmed last I checked, Iran as well with over 6k. Nope you really need to look this up. And when they end the lockdown, especially in China - because they will have to - the numbers will shoot up again!

 

Yeah you're way off the mark with Ebola, let's just say influenza kills at least 100x more people each year worldwide than Ebola, though what makes any contagion dangerous in not necessarily its fatality rate but how fast it spreads & of course mutations! In that regards, influenza & CoV strains have no parallel 

In india u don’t need to worry about it much - number of reasons 

 

-weather . See the distribution pattern of the virus . Avg temp is about 20-30 degree Fahrenheit in chief areas of spread - wet cold areas . in usa areas like arizona , Oklahoma Midwest are not seeing high case load . Usa did see vaping related ards - wondering whether that was corona actually as if u look at the ct scans , it’s a very comparable picture of ards and ground glass opacities 

 

-lack of excessive hygiene - india is a hotbed if microorganisms and avg indian does not roam around with a purell . At a baseline indians are exposed to more viruses etc given big population centres and sky high population 

 

- the case fatality is interesting - some places it is 6 percent and some 0.6 . 
 

- the number of Iranian cases based on statistical models are between 200 k to 600 k ( very good article on it) 

 

- March is here . Expect seasonal variation like the flu . Cases likely to go down in april . March will be tough though 

 

- india far more likely to have epidemics related to mosquitoes - dengue or resistant malaria as tropical disease pattern is worse . 
 

- indian icu capabilities including ventilators are probably around 500 thousand ( given many of indian hospitals don’t have 24 hr o2 supply , I doubt we have enough ventilators ) if an epidemic was there I bet india will have the highest case fatality rate ( our disaster management system is prayers and penchaan ) 
 

in short indians need to worry about Tb and dengue more than covid19 . 
 

regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mani sha]

1 hour ago, kosingh said:

Indian doctors are usually more willing to prescribe drugs/combo of drugs for unapproved uses. May just stumble upon a treatment. 

 

Ok wishful thinking. 

Statistically highly unlikely what u said - indian docs not good at discovering new models ; we haven’t invented a single drug I know of 

 

Chinese have better experience with SARS and have already found ways to limit illness . Problem is the cytokine storm which kills . It’s similar to fulminant lymphocytic myocarditis .. u can’t do anything about it . My mom passed away 3 years ago at age 65 without an iota of disease via above . I couldn’t do anything about it ... Current corona virus is killing healthy young people via first damaging the lungs , then partial recovery giving false hope followed by fulminant myocarditis causing v fib v tach arrest . It’s heart wrenching to read such stories 

 

for immunosuppressed old people , it kills via lung scaring again via same immune response .. 

[R!TTER]

41 minutes ago, mani sha said:

In india u don’t need to worry about it much - number of reasons 

You're forgetting Italy, Iran then? There's also no indication that the nCoV has heat as a potential deterrent in it's wake, so this rumor needs to die down! In fact, as temps grow the number of cases are also growing exponentially, though that may also have to do with infected patients spreading it across the globe.

 

41 minutes ago, mani sha said:

- the case fatality is interesting - some places it is 6 percent and some 0.6 . 

Yes, but as you know we can only count fatalities from the number of confirmed cases. In that sense DJT is right that the absolute fatality "might" be lower but then again are we counting patients who've died of nCoV & not been reported or detected? In that sense it's a slippery road, one thing is clear though it is more deadly than most strains of influenza & highly contagious!

33 minutes ago, mani sha said:

Problem is the cytokine storm which kills

That's interesting (is it a feature of all influenza/CoV strains?) because this is what killed people the most in Spanish flu. I wasn't aware that nCoV is also leading to this, but possibly in lesser number or % of people than the disease that killed well over 50 million over a century back?

 

Just to be clear it's a 2 part statement & I guess you probably being in medicine(?) would know a lot more about it's genealogy & lifecycle.

Edited March 11, 2020 by R!TTER

[Lannister]

32 minutes ago, mani sha said:

In india u don’t need to worry about it much - number of reasons 

 

-weather . See the distribution pattern of the virus . Avg temp is about 20-30 degree Fahrenheit in chief areas of spread - wet cold areas . in usa areas like arizona , Oklahoma Midwest are not seeing high case load . Usa did see vaping related ards - wondering whether that was corona actually as if u look at the ct scans , it’s a very comparable picture of ards and ground glass opacities 

 

-lack of excessive hygiene - india is a hotbed if microorganisms and avg indian does not roam around with a purell . At a baseline indians are exposed to more viruses etc given big population centres and sky high population 

 

- the case fatality is interesting - some places it is 6 percent and some 0.6 . 
 

- the number of Iranian cases based on statistical models are between 200 k to 600 k ( very good article on it) 

 

- March is here . Expect seasonal variation like the flu . Cases likely to go down in april . March will be tough though 

 

- india far more likely to have epidemics related to mosquitoes - dengue or resistant malaria as tropical disease pattern is worse . 
 

- indian icu capabilities including ventilators are probably around 500 thousand ( given many of indian hospitals don’t have 24 hr o2 supply , I doubt we have enough ventilators ) if an epidemic was there I bet india will have the highest case fatality rate ( our disaster management system is prayers and penchaan ) 
 

in short indians need to worry about Tb and dengue more than covid19 . 
 

regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/national/coronavirus-wont-disappear-like-the-flu-in-summer-who-812613.html?__twitter_impression=true

 

Coronavirus won't disappear like the flu in summer: WHO

[The Dark Horse]

Problem is it takes 7 to 14 days for it to get detected. Which means if your immune system is strong, there's no problem but likely to pass it on to someone with less immunity/kids/elders.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Shut down everything then. Why only cricket?

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[Malcolm Merlyn]

More people travel on local trains in mumbai than those who attend a cricket match.

The OP has little idea about India.

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[ganeshran]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Why there are going to be more patients? Corona has been made too big a deal. It doesn't spread fast.  It is also not that dangerous. It has a very low mortality rate too. Other than China, no major country has large spread till now. only people who travelled to China will really be suspects. Ebola was far more dangerous proposition. There are big chances of virus dying by early April.

This is plain wrong. The growth rate of the cases is exponential. It can spread very very quickly. USA had 15 cases just a week or so back. today it crossed 1000

 

The only unknown is the spread of the virus in the heat. We dont know whether it will die down because of the heat. Lets hope it does but prepare for the worst case scenario either way

[Vickydev]

Until any player gets it, nothing will happen. Nobody cares about the general public, it's all about the stars.