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Om Shanti.

 

All Hindus and Buddhists killed or driven away from Afg, <1000 Sikhs stay there, but even they can't be tolerated. 

 

Meanwhile Punjab Assembly passed resolution against CAA. Akal Takht gave sermons against CAA, leading Sikh intellectuals spoke in support of the Sharjeel Imams and Ladeedas. Many Sikhs joined protesting Islamists and libbus in SB. Many overseas Sikhs spew hatred against Hindus, BJP, Modi, Shah despite us being the only people in India who care about the plight of dharmics in neighboring Islamic countries. 

 

If Sikhs want alliance with Islamists fine, deal with your problem taking their help. 

 

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Just now, Gollum said:

Om Shanti.

 

All Hindus and Buddhists killed or driven away from Afg, <1000 Sikhs stay there, but even they can't be tolerated. 

 

Meanwhile Punjab Assembly passed resolution against CAA. Akal Takht gave sermons against CAA, leading Sikh intellectuals spoke in support of the Sharjeel Imams and Ladeedas. Many Sikhs joined protesting Islamists and libbus in SB. Many overseas Sikhs spew hatred against Hindus, BJP, Modi, Shah despite us being the only people in India who care about the plight of dharmics in neighboring Islamic countries. 

 

If Sikhs want alliance with Islamists fine, deal with your this problem taking their help. 

 

Khalistani hai saale. 

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Would India still be secular if Muslims were 80% and Hindus 15%.

 

Change that question to would India have a single kafir left in that case?

 

Dharmics wiped out in Afg. Dharmics even more dead than dead people in Pak. In BD kafirs fell from 22% to 7 and in 40 years time there won't be a single Hindu there. KP exodus in the valley in case people have forgotten. Countless nations and civilizations wiped out by the sword of Islam in the last 1400 years...Zoroastrians can't ever go back to Iran. Armenian genocide, Malabar genocide, Yazidi genocide, Boko Haram abducting Christian girls in Nigeria and wiping out huge swathes of lands populated by non-Muslims, another 10 million examples, Holy Quran is quite direct when it comes to its goals. 

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52 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

The fact that there are gurudwaras in Kabul is a bigger surprise. 

 

Om shanti. 

The gurudwara was demolished in the early 2000s. This is a nearby building where the few remaining Sikhs would gather for religious and cultural activities, like a makeshift gurudwara. 

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1 hour ago, Stradlater said:

Did you check the comments below? 

The usual suspects have already started to indirectly blame India. Gazab harami log hai. 

Bhai when they could call Pulwama attack an inside job, what better can we expect. Most will pretend ignorance, others will invent conspiracy theories. No one will answer the tough questions, how a peaceful, non-interfering community with <1000 pop is seen as a threat by Muslims in Afg that they have to be killed? 

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4 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

RIP

 

India should offer to ferry out and provide refuge to all the minorities in Afghanistan who wish to relocate.

 

 

‘Minorities...’ that’s exactly CAA tried to introduce but Pseudo liberals and Shahin Bagh shernia didn’t like why it was only given to minorities

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In recent times many targeted killings of Sikhs in Afg, often victims were women and they were passed off as robberies. All prominent Sikh leaders have been murdered, I think last year in Jalalabad there was a suicide bombing which killed dozens of Sikhs who were travelling to meet the Afghan President. It must be horrific to be a Sikh there, already numbers are damn low so most would know each other, and very passing year that number is decreasing alarmingly not because of natural reasons but terror attacks and violent crime. They would know by now that they are all going to get killed like the Buddhists and Hindus. They can't even cremate their dead because every time they do so there is more stone pelting and violence conducted by their Muslim neighbors. 

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In general Sikh dead bodies have to be transported to Pak to be cremated, the Afghans won't allow un-Islamic practices :facepalm:

LINK

 

The last crematorium was closed down in 2012 because the practice is forbidden in Islam.  

 

For the handful of Sikhs who remain in Afghanistan, life is torturous

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death in the community was a nightmare because the locals did not allow them cremation rights. One needed huge security arrangements to conduct a funeral. While the Muslim population says it finds cremations alien, the fight is also as much about grabbing prime real estate in the cremation ground.

'We cannot live here': Afghanistan's Sikhs weigh future after suicide bombing

 

The Last 2 Sikhs in the Taliban’s Heartland

 

Meanwhile in India

Image result for sikhs caa

Image result for sikhs caa

 

And @Ranvir @Under_Score @Singh bling I understand why Punjab's Congress govt is against CAA, they are obeying their high command. But what exactly is Akal Takht's problem? What is their composition? Do they not care about these unfortunate Sikhs?

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1 hour ago, sandeep said:

What a horrible horrible time we live in.  

Madness, this is the time entire humanity has to unite against Corona. Instead some devils are busy killing innocent people, 25 in Kabul, almost a 100 in Chad, the other day 17 in Sukma.....Kalyug. 

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3 hours ago, Gollum said:

In general Sikh dead bodies have to be transported to Pak to be cremated, the Afghans won't allow un-Islamic practices :facepalm:

LINK

 

The last crematorium was closed down in 2012 because the practice is forbidden in Islam.  

 

For the handful of Sikhs who remain in Afghanistan, life is torturous

'We cannot live here': Afghanistan's Sikhs weigh future after suicide bombing

 

The Last 2 Sikhs in the Taliban’s Heartland

 

Meanwhile in India

Image result for sikhs caa

Image result for sikhs caa

 

And @Ranvir @Under_Score @Singh bling I understand why Punjab's Congress govt is against CAA, they are obeying their high command. But what exactly is Akal Takht's problem? What is their composition? Do they not care about these unfortunate Sikhs?

Hindutva conspiracy theory. RSS want to throw muslims out and later they will throw Sikh's out

 

To be honest I was very surprised what Sikh's were doing. I hope this attack will be an eye opener for them

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1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

Hindutva conspiracy theory. RSS want to throw muslims out and later they will throw Sikh's out

 

To be honest I was very surprised what Sikh's were doing. I hope this attack will be an eye opener for them

If not India, hope these Sikhs migrate to Canada or UK, less than 1000 left in Afg, some sources say only 300-400. It is India's responsibility to take care of them but with all the CAA politics, western lobby pressure, Punjab Congress nonsense, looks difficult. Shouldn't be an ego battle, their safety is paramount. Sikh lobby is strong in Canada and UK, they must put pressure on their govts before it is too late. 

 

Also Sikhs must remember that the most idiotic and arrogant Hindutvawadi will be more tolerant towards them than Muslims in neighboring countries or even those in India where demography is tilted in their favor like Kashmir or (Old) Hyderabad. Moreover it is the current Modi govt which took decisive action in the form of CAA. Islamists, communists, libtards, ISI, western agencies etc. will try to use Sikhs in their war against India, just use and throw, Sikhs shouldn't be useful idiots for those assholes. Where else can they find safety and dignity? They can become PM, CJI, Army Chief, Air Chief, cricket captain, cultural icon, tycoon, IAS/IPS/IFS/IFoS officer etc. here, a well to do community, most of their holy places are in India, this grudge is damn stupid. 

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1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

Hindutva conspiracy theory. RSS want to throw muslims out and later they will throw Sikh's out

 

To be honest I was very surprised what Sikh's were doing. I hope this attack will be an eye opener for them

LMAO Hinduwadis literally worship Sikhs. Who do you think spread this nonsense of Sikhs being saviors of Hinduism in the first place? 

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39 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

LMAO Hinduwadis literally worship Sikhs. Who do you think spread this nonsense of Sikhs being saviors of Hinduism in the first place? 

Not in Punjab . There has been lot of bitterness between two since Arya samaj stepped in Punjab.there has been lots of local issues between them since partition. 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

If not India, hope these Sikhs migrate to Canada or UK, less than 1000 left in Afg, some sources say only 300-400. It is India's responsibility to take care of them but with all the CAA politics, western lobby pressure, Punjab Congress nonsense, looks difficult. Shouldn't be an ego battle, their safety is paramount. Sikh lobby is strong in Canada and UK, they must put pressure on their govts before it is too late. 

 

Also Sikhs must remember that the most idiotic and arrogant Hindutvawadi will be more tolerant towards them than Muslims in neighboring countries or even those in India where demography is tilted in their favor like Kashmir or (Old) Hyderabad. Moreover it is the current Modi govt which took decisive action in the form of CAA. Islamists, communists, libtards, ISI, western agencies etc. will try to use Sikhs in their war against India, just use and throw, Sikhs shouldn't be useful idiots for those assholes. Where else can they find safety and dignity? They can become PM, CJI, Army Chief, Air Chief, cricket captain, cultural icon, tycoon, IAS/IPS/IFS/IFoS officer etc. here, a well to do community, most of their holy places are in India, this grudge is damn stupid. 

Cant we send a couple of military planes and evacuate them ? Lol

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5 hours ago, Laaloo said:

Cant we send a couple of military planes and evacuate them ? Lol

100 more SBs will pop up, opposition and fifth column will start riots all across India. Who knows even some Indian Sikhs might object?

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6 hours ago, Gollum said:

Afg Dharmics were 370,000 strong in the 60s

200,000 in the 80s

50,000 in early 2000s

<1000 today, in the 300-400 range to be more precise 

 

But yeah CAA is sin, Modi is Satan. 

And in those timeframes how many illegal RoPers have crept into Ind?

 

Ticking time bomb. 

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There is another angle to this attack. Haqqanis, supported by Pindi, wanted to initially attack Indian embassy in Kabul, but there’s too much security there to stage such an audacious attack, so they chose this gurudwara which is a soft target. Also, this gurdwara was frequently trafficked by Indian embassy officials which made it more attractive for Pindi because their goal most likely was to get some Indian officials.

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In the long term, only two jaatis can turn the tide against Muslims while they are not the majority: Sikhs and Chinese (as in their historic control of Muslim lands of east Central Asia). Therefore, modi should accept all Sikh refugees we can and settle them in Kashmir valley. Two birds, one stone. 

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9 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

In the long term, only two jaatis can turn the tide against Muslims while they are not the majority: Sikhs and Chinese (as in their historic control of Muslim lands of east Central Asia). Therefore, modi should accept all Sikh refugees we can and settle them in Kashmir valley. Two birds, one stone. 

The liberandu Sikhs will lament the death of their kin by Islamist terrorists but will vilify the PM Modi and Hindus for CAA which is actually designed to help Sikh minorities to escape death and provide safe refuge, You cannot make this **** up.

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59 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

In the long term, only two jaatis can turn the tide against Muslims while they are not the majority: Sikhs and Chinese (as in their historic control of Muslim lands of east Central Asia). Therefore, modi should accept all Sikh refugees we can and settle them in Kashmir valley. Two birds, one stone. 

Past is irrelevant. Now only who can breed faster can turn tide against muslims.

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1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

In the long term, only two jaatis can turn the tide against Muslims while they are not the majority: Sikhs and Chinese (as in their historic control of Muslim lands of east Central Asia). Therefore, modi should accept all Sikh refugees we can and settle them in Kashmir valley. Two birds, one stone. 

Dada, Russian Christian civilians had to flee the Caucasus (Chechnya, Dagestan) despite full backing of state machinery. You think Sikhs can succeed where they failed? Muslims are tyrannical when in majority and to make matters worse can't be reasoned with (not denying there are some good apples but talking about overall system), lot of psycopaths in their midst. And at least when it comes to India, western lobbies and international orgs are clarely on the side of rabid Islamists, even if say the Sikhs had the capability to turn the tide, vested interests would put enormous pressure on India and we aren't China !!!! Sure historically the Sikhs gave plenty of ass kickings in modern day Afg, Pak, Kashmir but it is difficult to operate like that in 21st century, don't you think? Only our army can deal with Kashmir valley, make AFSPA in that region permanant and maintain pressure, will keep them in control but doubt they will abandon their barbaric cum treasonous ways. 

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The liberandu Sikhs will lament the death of their kin by Islamist terrorists but will vilify the PM Modi and Hindus for CAA which is actually designed to help Sikh minorities to escape death and provide safe refuge, You cannot make this **** up.
Have noticed that libererandu Sikhs are still caught up in their own Lahori nostalgia and most oppose BJP...will come back and bite them

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On 3/26/2020 at 8:02 AM, Yoda-esque said:

Watch the YouTube video of Nomadic Indian in Afghanistan Sikh Gurdwara..these people are very oppressed.

Our sickulars are probably the scum of the Earth

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why don't the dharmics in these countries come back? what's still left for them in these islamic shitholes we are surrounded by where they can't even live with dignity? eventually our western neighbors will implode under the weight of their own lies and unsustainable extremism which has and can only be sustained by foreign money by which time we can look to take advantage. 

 

btw perpetrator of the attack is seemingly another isis recruit from 100% literacy, highest HDI, God's own communist emirate of Kerala. 

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On 3/26/2020 at 8:36 AM, Gollum said:

Afg Dharmics were 370,000 strong in the 60s

200,000 in the 80s

50,000 in early 2000s

<1000 today, in the 300-400 range to be more precise 

 

But yeah CAA is sin, Modi is Satan. 

@Alam_dar you see why we need CAA, don't you? 

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On 3/25/2020 at 3:43 PM, Gollum said:

If not India, hope these Sikhs migrate to Canada or UK, less than 1000 left in Afg, some sources say only 300-400. It is India's responsibility to take care of them but with all the CAA politics, western lobby pressure, Punjab Congress nonsense, looks difficult. Shouldn't be an ego battle, their safety is paramount. Sikh lobby is strong in Canada and UK, they must put pressure on their govts before it is too late. 

 

Also Sikhs must remember that the most idiotic and arrogant Hindutvawadi will be more tolerant towards them than Muslims in neighboring countries or even those in India where demography is tilted in their favor like Kashmir or (Old) Hyderabad. Moreover it is the current Modi govt which took decisive action in the form of CAA. Islamists, communists, libtards, ISI, western agencies etc. will try to use Sikhs in their war against India, just use and throw, Sikhs shouldn't be useful idiots for those assholes. Where else can they find safety and dignity? They can become PM, CJI, Army Chief, Air Chief, cricket captain, cultural icon, tycoon, IAS/IPS/IFS/IFoS officer etc. here, a well to do community, most of their holy places are in India, this grudge is damn stupid

 

On 3/25/2020 at 5:35 AM, Gollum said:

Om Shanti.

 Many overseas Sikhs spew hatred against Hindus, BJP, Modi, Shah despite us being the only people in India who care about the plight of dharmics in neighboring Islamic countries. 

 

 

Spot on.

 

They shouldn't have to migrate to canada or the UK. Those are predominantly christian, western countries, they have no responsibility to protect sikhs. For those countries, sikhs are little more than cheap labor.

 

The homeland for sikhs will always be India, and CAA makes it official. Incidents like the one in kabul only make it easier to justify CAA.

 

 

 

Having said that, here's my explanation for why overseas sikhs are often happy to be used "against" India:

 

Most sikhs that went to Canada were relatively poor. Sikhs living in delhi, mumbai and tier 2 cities are rich, they have no reason to leave. But the poorer sikhs, they weren't from the big cities, they lived in small towns and couldn't really "succeed" in India. They sold their land, migrated to canada, took up working class jobs (truck driver, taxi, etc) and made a decent living for themselves. For decades after the air india bombing, many of these sikhs weren't allowed to travel to india. So resentment only grew. Meanwhile, more and more fled from punjab to work in canada. Even today, punjabis from smaller towns and villages try to move overseas, because they feel they can make more money in working class jobs.

 

A younger, 2nd generation of sikhs - born and raised in canada, some in the united states, and the UK - have no attachment to india, and they lean towards hating India because the stories of that first generation (their parents) are all they ever heard while growing up. They are NOT familiar with the sikh community's success in india - let's be honest, sikhs are easily the most prosperous group of people in india, on average. These younger, 2nd generation sikhs are a minority, but they're very vocal with their anti-india opinions.

 

So many of them mistakenly believe that sikhs in india are suffering, and need to "liberated" from the evil indian government. This is obviously a false impression, but the indian government is partly responsible - especially during the congress party years, when there was NO attempt whatsoever to provide justice for the victims of the 1984 riots. The BJP actually did provide justice (compensation), and BJP leaders recognize it as a 'genocide'.

 

Unfortunately, western media has created a negative perception of the BJP, and whatever "outreach" the BJP-led government engages in, often fails to make an impression. There's definitely a growing division between certain sikhs (not all) and hindus, in western countries like canada and the UK.

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