Temujin Khaghan Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 well, I imagined that how the mumbai dressing room would be on a high since they know sachin is playing. Its not the question of how many runs he can score or anything, but just imagine how it feels for them to see their icon player in their ranks again. Tigers get old, may become blind, their claws become blunt, their speed decreases... but when they are hungry, they still get their prey. Class is permanent. Mastery over technique is something batsmen work for years to achieve. It doesn't go off that easily... But maybe you guys are right too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajiv Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 well, I imagined that how the mumbai dressing room would be on a high since they know sachin is playing. Its not the question of how many runs he can score or anything, but just imagine how it feels for them to see their icon player in their ranks again. Tigers get old, may become blind, their claws become blunt, their speed decreases... but when they are hungry, they still get their prey. Class is permanent. Mastery over technique is something batsmen work for years to achieve. It doesn't go off that easily... But maybe you guys are right too... ..but very few get this point. I have seen the same comments on SL websites, commentators, the team itself as well..but somehow registered posters here have a bounty on him, " Sachin, NO..he is nothing etc ", Problem is, well..nevermind..some people are the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkay Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 IPL Semi-final slot Looks like RR and KXI have almost guaranteed their semi-final spot. Tomorrow's matches would be crucial for Mumbai XI, CSK and KKR. If CSK wins against KKR, they are most likely to qualify to semi-finals. But if KKR wins, the league would be interesting If MXI wins against DC, they would be formidable to vie for semi-final spot. Even though I support CSK, I was hoping for DD to have won today and KKR & MXI to have won tomorrow which would have put all PXI, CSK, DD, KKR and MXI tied with 12 points. But unfortunately, that did not happen. Who would you tomorrow to win? CSK & KKR and MXI and DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 i'm supportin KKR IN KKR VS CSK.. BECAUSE IF KKR WINS, THEY WILL JUST END UP HAVING 12 PTS.. NOT14 in mumbai vs hyderabad, offcourse hyderabad because mumbai being already ahead in 4th spot race or 3rd, would make just add more poinst to their tally if they win tomorrow which would be hurting Delhi perhapz. so ya, go KKR AND HYDERBAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 The semifinalists are 90% assured now. Just look at the position. DD ,because of today's loss , are 10 pts from 11 games and HAVE to win all 3 games. CSK, are now 12 pts from 10 games and have 4 games to go and just 2 wins needed with one game EACH against BRC, KKR and DC coming up. Mumbai will be cheering the loss of DD today. Kings 11 and Rajasthan are of course assured of sf spots. It is the most probable thing that Dhoni's men will comfortably walk through while Sehwag's men have a very very serious problem. Mumbai will now seriously look to upstage DD, because other 3 places are almost taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandan Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hmmm.. and how do you gauge the situation after yesterdays matches? Chennai and Mumbai won. Delhi has to win all its remaining games now but a funny scenario described on cricinfo says that even Royals haven't qualified for the semis yet. Why Rajasthan aren't into the semi-finals just yet S Rajesh May 18, 2008 Shane Warne has led an outstanding campaign so far for Rajasthan, but they haven't quite made it to the last four © Getty Images With eight wins in ten games, Rajasthan Royals are sitting pretty at the top of the table. In all probability they'll seal a place in the top four, but as things stand after 40 games of the IPL, there's still a chance - however slim - that they won't make the cut. Here's one scenario which explains how they might still miss out on a semi-final slot: Rajasthan have four matches to go, against Kolkata, Chennai, Mumbai and Punjab. If they lose all four, they'll remain on 16 points. Mumbai are the only team to have played only nine games. Their five remaining ones are against Deccan, Punjab, Delhi, Rajasthan and Bangalore. Win all, and they leapfrog to the top of the table with 20 points. Even with one loss, they'll be among the top teams with 18 points. Kolkata have four games to go, against Chennai, Rajasthan, Delhi and Punjab. Four wins will prop them up to 18 points. Chennai have played ten too, and will face Kolkata, Bangalore, Rajasthan, and Deccan. Lose the first and win the next three, and Chennai will finish with 18 points. Saturday's win against Delhi pushed Punjab to second place with 14 points in ten games. Their remaining games are against Mumbai, Deccan, Kolkata and Rajasthan. If they beat Deccan and Rajasthan, Punjab will join Kolkata and Chennai on 18 points. In such a scenario, Mumbai will top the table with 20 points, while Kolkata, Chennai, and Punjab will all be tied on 18. Rajasthan will then slip to a clear fifth place with 16 points, and will be out of the reckoning for a semi-final berth. Possible points table according to the results above: Team Played Won Lost Points Mumbai 14 10 4 20 Kolkata 14 9 5 18 Chennai 14 9 5 18 Punjab 14 9 5 18 Rajasthan 14 8 6 16 Delhi 14 6 8 12 Deccan 14 3 11 6 Bangalore 14 2 12 4 Even if the results don't go exactly to plan, there are still possibilities of five teams finishing on 16 or more points, with a couple of them tied on 16. In that case, net run rates will come into the picture to break the deadlock. Also, if Rajasthan beat Mumbai but the other results go according to the scenario above, there'll still be five teams tied on 18 points, again bringing the net run rate into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludhianvi Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 The teams eying a semifinal birth and how they stand. [COLOR="RoyalBlue"][B][B]Team Points Games left RR Remaining Games against[/B][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]Rajasthan 16 4 +0.876 Kolkata, Chennai, Mumbai , Punjab Punjab 14 4 +0.475 Mumbai, Deccan, Kolkata, Rajasthan[/COLOR] Chennai 14 3 -0.175 Bangalore, Rajasthan, DeccaN Mumbai 12 4 +0.727 Punjab,Delhi, Rajasthan, and Bangalore Delhi 12 2 +0.350 Kolkata, Mumbai Kolkata 10 3 -0.026 Rajasthan, Delhi, Punjab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hiten. Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Semi-final race is clearly between DD and MI. Reason I consider these 2 favorites for semi-final spot is that CSK just need to win 1/3 and on the other hand KKR need to win 3/3. IF KKR manage to win their game against RR tomorrow then the battle for semi-final spots will widen up to 2 places (#3 and #4). DD have to win their remaining 2 games and if MI manages to win 3/4, then it will be curtains for DD. DD play KKR and MI next. DD did a blunder by bundling out during their chase vs KKR. Had they won that game, they would have been breathing a bit easily atm. MI play Kings XI, DD, RR and BRC. Except BRC, MI face some stiff opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 CSK needs only one win, and BRC, Royals and Chargers remaining....so they are almost sure to make it to semifinals...they have to LOSE all three games and then others will have to win more for CSK not to make it. Probabilities of CSK not making it are very less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 For DD to qualify it needs to win the remaining games and hope that MI wins 1 and loses 3 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludhianvi Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 CSK needs only one win' date=' and BRC, Royals and Chargers remaining....so they are almost sure to make it to semifinals...they have to LOSE all three games and then others will have to win more for CSK not to make it. Probabilities of CSK not making it are very less.[/quote'] actually they could be out if they just win one out the remaining 3. Suppose if they win one more then they end up with 16 points. -Mumbai currently has 12 points and 4 games remaining. If they win 2 out of the 4, then they would also end up at 16. -Delhi currently have 12 points and if they win their remaining two games, they end up at 16 points too. Out of the three, Chennai has the lowest run rate and that will further decline if they lose two more and win only 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 actually they could be out if they just win one out the remaining 3. Suppose if they win one more then they end up with 16 points. -Mumbai currently has 12 points and 4 games remaining. If they win 2 out of the 4, then they would also end up at 16. -Delhi currently have 12 points and if they win their remaining two games, they end up at 16 points too. Out of the three, Chennai has the lowest run rate and that will further decline if they lose two more and win only 1. good point CSK needs 2 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandan Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Possible scenario in the remaining IPL matches After yesterday's disappointing washout, the situation has become a little tricky here. Delhi's hope hangs in balance Rain plays killjoy: Kolkata out, Delhi hopes hang in balance Anand Vasu, Hindustan Times New Delhi, May 22, 2008 First Published: 19:52 IST(22/5/2008) Last Updated: 00:29 IST(23/5/2008) Shah Rukh Khan's charisma be damned, Glenn McGrath's accuracy can be tossed into the dust-bin. For all of Gautam Gambhir's fireworks and Sachin Tendulkar's late return to the Mumbai team rain might just have the most decisive say on which teams join Jaipur and Mohali in the semifinals of the inaugural IPL tournament. With rain sealing Kolkata's fate on 11 points with one game in hand, even a win in their last match, against Mohali will only get them to 13 points, and that won't help them qualify for the knockouts. This means they join Bangalore and Hyderabad in the list of also-rans in the tournament. Delhi, on 13 points, still have reason to hope, but they will be hanging by a tenuous and slender thread. Delhi must beat Mumbai in their final match, on Saturday and then hope that Mumbai don't win more than one of their other two matches. This will leave Delhi on 15 and Mumbai on 14. However, Chennai who have table-toppers Jaipur and wooden-spoon leaders Hyderabad to tackle already have 14 points, and so long as they don't lose both games, they'll get past Delhi's tally of 15 points. Even one rained out match will put them in a net run rate situation with Delhi. If Mumbai beat Delhi, the equation is instantly simplified in that Delhi's game is up and Mumbai and Chennai will play the semifinals alongside Jaipur and Mohali. What the rain has done is bring an extra component into the fray. While previously only wins and losses were discussed, now shared points are a reality. But as of now only two venues - Kolkata and Delhi - have had serious interruptions due to rain, and even these are unseasonal rains. If you'd like a completely messy scenario, it would involve Mumbai losing to Delhi, winning one match and the third being rained out, it would put Delhi, Mumbai and Chennai all on 15 points and net run rate would come into play. THE SEMIS SITUATION In: Jaipur, Mohali Out: Bangalore, Hyderabad, Kolkata Fighting: Chennai, Mumbai, Delhi Scenarios: Mumbai beat Delhi on May 24: Delhi out, Mumbai, Chennai, Jaipur and Mohali through. Mumbai lose to Delhi but beat Jaipur and Bangalore: Mumbai, Chennai, Jaipur and Mohali through Mumbai lose to Delhi and then lose to either Jaipur or Bangalore: Delhi go through, and if Chennai lose both their matches Mumbai and Chennai will be tied on 14 points and net run rate will decide. Mumbai lose to Delhi and then lose to either Jaipur or Bangalore: Delhi go through, and if Chennai win one of their matches Chennai go through and Mumbai miss out. ------------------------------------------------------- Anyone has any other explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajiv Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 ..thats what I said earlier, the rain has given 1 free pt to delhi which means, all they have to do is beat mumbai then Mumbai has to beat both or simply just beat delhi an d get it over with But rain can play another spoil sport on saturday so mumbai get 1 free pt and then I have no idea what the hell I am saying coz I am confused now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 ..thats what I said earlier, the rain has given 1 free pt to delhi which means, all they have to do is beat mumbai then Mumbai has to beat both or simply just beat delhi an d get it over with But rain can play another spoil sport on saturday so mumbai get 1 free pt and then I have no idea what the hell I am saying coz I am confused now :dito: btw thunderstorms predicted for sat as well. :idea: If that happens then delhi will have 14 points and MI 13 , so then they just need to win 1 of the remaining 2 games ... :hmmmm2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Another permutation; Mumbai and Delhi's match could be rained out, leaving the teams on 13 and 14 points respectively. If Mumbai manages to beat either Rajasthan or Bangalore, they would be up to third with 15 points - that scenario would hold true if Chennai loses both of their 2 remaining matches. This would mean that the race for 4th place will be determined by NRR and in that situation, i'm sure Delhi would go through because Chennai's NRR is already below Delhi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Rain Rain ccording to the Indian Metereological Department (IMD), the heavy May rain will start to subside in the coming days as the cyclonic circulation over Pakistan, Western Punjab and Rajasthan is now beginning to weaken. Said a senior IMD official: ‘‘The circulation over Pakistan is stronger than seen in the previous years, which is why the rainfall in Delhi in the last few days has been heavier than usual. The showers will continue over the next two to three days but the intensity will reduce.’’ According to IMD, while the cyclonic activity causing heavy rain over Delhi and adjoining areas in northwest India is gradually beginning to weaken now, new activity is forming over UP, which will now be seeing heavy rain and thundershowers in the coming days. IMD officials reported that there was no squall on Wednesday night, only heavy rain and a thunderstorm. So far, there have been eight squalls this May in Delhi. The record for the month of May in recent times was in 2002, when the capital received 129 mm of rains on a single day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amits Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Scenarios: Mumbai beat Delhi on May 24: Delhi out, Mumbai, Chennai, Jaipur and Mohali through. Mumbai lose to Delhi but beat Jaipur and Bangalore: Mumbai, Chennai, Jaipur and Mohali through Mumbai lose to Delhi and then lose to either Jaipur or Bangalore: Delhi go through, and if Chennai lose both their matches Mumbai and Chennai will be tied on 14 points and net run rate will decide. Mumbai lose to Delhi and then lose to either Jaipur or Bangalore: Delhi go through, and if Chennai win one of their matches Chennai go through and Mumbai miss out. ------------------------------------------------------- Anyone has any other explanation? there is another scenario mumbai lose to delhi but beat jaipur and bangalore & chennai lose both their remaining matches - delhi, mumbai, mohali & jaipur will go through. chennai will be left on 14 points. delhi with 15 & mumbai with 16 will go through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swami1984 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Sehwag will be banking on McGrath to get Sachin early!! McGrath rarely failed to do that before in crucial matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajiv Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 Howz The Weather Though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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