kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 and let me know your thoughts Here is what I am planning to do. Take an example of Ind v/s Bermuda game India's run rate was 8.26 i.e 137.5 SR. So 137.5 SR is now par SR. So if batsman scores at 137.5 SR he gets 1 point for 1 run. Here is India's scorecard Uthappa 3 runs with 75 SR.. so he gets 1.63 points as he effective SR is only 54.54. Ganguly 89 runs with SR of 78, but his effective Sr is 56.72, so he gets 50.48 points. Yuvraj Sing scored 83 with SR of 180, so his effective SR is 130, so he gets 1.30 points per run..so he will have 108 points. Sachin scored 57 @ 196 SR, his effective SR is 142. So he scores 81 points. and so on. Does this make sense? Link to comment
Predator_05 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully Bad idea yaar; why not just keep it simple. Ganguly scores more than Yuvraj but is worth 50 less points on SS ? That is just silly, IMO. I'd add points for maidens, BTW. Link to comment
Lurker Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully Yes yes it does. And good call. I second it. If its not too much work can you do the same for bowlers? Link to comment
Cricketics Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully let it be the way it was instead of bringing this Strike rate thing.... Link to comment
yoda Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully nope. you got to to look at both the teams and calculate a match par SR. otherwise, a team scoring truck load of runs will get normalized down unfairly. yes, if the pitch is a belter and the opponent also wacks tons of runs makes sense to bring the effective points down based on RR. Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully Now for bowling. Each wicket=25 points if ER is equal to Run rate conceded. For example Bermuda scored at 3.6 RPO Zaheer Khan had ER of 3.2 and took 1 wicket. so he gets 28.2 points per wicket. Agarkar had ER of 3.8, little worse than par ER, he takes 3 wickets and gets 23.75 points per wicket Kumble takes 3 wickets @ 4.1 ER, so he gets 22.01 points per wicket Sachin bowls @ 1 ER and takes 1 wicket..He gets 90.25 points per wicket..which is exceptional because his ER is too good. Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully >nope. you got to to look at both the teams and calculate a match par SR. India par SR is 137.5 and Bermuda par SR is 60 as their Run rate was 3.6 Link to comment
Guest BossBhai Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully -- Removed on request of the user -- Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully >Bad idea yaar; why not just keep it simple. Ganguly scores more than Yuvraj but is worth 50 less points on SS ? That is just silly, IMO. Yuvi's innings was far better than Ganguly..Ganguly had time to settle down and Yuvi dint...and still he scored as many as Ganguly...Yuvi is the reason we scored 400.. Link to comment
Rajiv Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully Bonus Points 50+, 100+ Maidens Bowlers Average Else, keep it simple My fav, pick a trump player Whatever the trump does, his pts are doubled Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully Rajeev, I dont like bonus point thing...because there is only 1 run of difference between 49 and 50..and the guy who scores 50 gets lot of bonus point.. Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully we can have bonus point for 150s and 6 wkt hauls.. we can have points for maiden overs and 100+ partnerships.. Link to comment
Rajiv Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully we can have bonus point for 150s and 6 wkt hauls.. we can have points for maiden overs and 100+ partnerships.. 100s and 5 wicket hauls cmon, itna discount chalega Link to comment
novpj Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Adjust the bowling figures Adjust the bowling pts to accnt for runs given. Eg., lets say an avg bowler has an analysis of 10-0-50-1. It basically means give 75 pts for a wicket and subtract 1 pt. for each run. We will end up with the same 25 pts for this bowler but wld have a good way of sorting out bowlers who buy wickets. This way we wont have to accnt for maidens. For batsmen I agree there shld be a strike rate adjustment but rather than caliberate it to the team's run rate why dont we just decide that an avg strike rate is 75 so a batsmans score shld be multiplied by a factor of SR/75. Link to comment
apocalypse Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully are we allowed to sub one player for super 8? Link to comment
Predator_05 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully Yuvi's innings was far better than Ganguly..Ganguly had time to settle down and Yuvi dint...and still he scored as many as Ganguly...Yuvi is the reason we scored 400.. Conjecture. Ganguly's innings held India together at the start and laid the foundation for Yuvraj and co. to cut loose. Listen, you can't quantify the quality of a particular innings - an 89 off 110 is just as vital as a 84 off 50. Runs are runs - no matter which circumstances they are scored in; so why not count them as such ? It's ridiculous that some batsman who scores 40 off 18 would get more points than a batsman who scored a 70 off 100. It's a clear bias towards batsmen who have high strike-rates. It's an interesting idea, but i am not in favour it. Poll time ? Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully >are we allowed to sub one player for super 8? I am working on something where you can sub 2-3 players every game.. Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully If you dont like the idea...just say no thanks so far we have two people who dint like the idea 1) Pred 2) Cricketics. Link to comment
kabira Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully >It's a clear bias towards batsmen who have high strike-rates. high strike rate makes lot of difference to the game...we actually see whats scoring average...if Ganguly had scored even at 100 SR..he would have got maximum points.. Ganguly had enough time to get set and increase his SR..but he was not able..whereas Yuvi only played 47 balls...he made those count.. Link to comment
yoda Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Point System for Super 8 Superselector: Read carefully >nope. you got to to look at both the teams and calculate a match par SR. India par SR is 137.5 and Bermuda par SR is 60 as their Run rate was 3.6 yes, you have to include both teams for obvious reasons. you can't penalize a team cause one of it's players decided to go berserk and scored an extremely fast hundred and upped their overall RR. Link to comment
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