The Realist Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Seeing the other thread about the merits of Sharma and Pathan, I thought would be a good time to think about India’s seam bowlers. My main point is that over the last decade or so, especially after the departures of Srinath and Prasad, India have tried many seamers of which some have made a promising start but then the majority have sunk without trace or faded with injuries. I hope Sharma does not fall into this trap as he shows lots of potential. Just off the top of my head I can think off: Tinu Yohanan David Johnson Dodda Ganesh Abey Kuruvilla Nilesh Kulkarni Iqbal Siddiqui Sanjay Bangar Sreesanth Munaf Patel Balaji Nehra Mohanty Even Zaheer had to go away to county cricket to rediscover his hunger Ajit Agrakar…(though in this case its how he always manages to get back in) :-D Why is this the case, is it a particularly Indian problem or just down to physical problems caused by pace bowling? Link to comment
DomainK Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 David Jhonson and Dodda Ganesh were never even prospects. They were selected is proof of how desperate we had become. I can not recall them bowling well ever. Link to comment
DomainK Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Mohanty was a decent bowler. But he somewhere stopped learning and improving. His spell was instrumental in beating Pakistan in the 99 WC when he bowled 10 overs in one go at the start at an economy rate of a little above 3. But he was dropped following one or two bad series and was never picked again. Though I think it was justified as he showed a complete lack of brain. When Kenyan batsmen smacked him like a high school kid, he was asking to be dropped. Most bowlers got over shadowed because we found better bowlers than them. I think we hit real gold when we discovered Nehra and ZAK. Then came Balaji. However Nehra and Balaji succumbed to injury problems and Zaheer has come a long way. Sree, RP etc are here to stay. Link to comment
Fontaine Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 EVERY single young pace bowler goes through struggles and ups and downs. The problem is there is not enough done by the BCCI in terms of nutrition, fitness, and mental focus for these fast bowlers. As soon as a player gets unfit, he's dropped and pretty much forgotten about without any real resources and focus put on his rehabilitation. This is nothing new. The BCCI are useless when it comes to the overall welfare of cricket players unless they're out and out marketable stars. I mean look at the case of Sreesanth? He was developing along nicely last year but he's disappeared for the past 8 or 9 months because of a side strain and back issue. As stupid as this guy is, he was looking into getting "Auyervedic" remedies! How does the BCCI let the situation get out of control like that? Or when a fast bowler was reported missing by the BCCI and they couldn't locate him or whether he was due to be in the NCA or on a flight to a match? Link to comment
bharat297 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 abey kuruvilla was frustrating to watch ... with that sort of height , he should have been one of our best ... but he was pretty bad. Link to comment
chanakya Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 abey kuruvilla was frustrating to watch ... with that sort of height ' date=' he should have been one of our best ... but he was pretty bad.[/quote'] he was fast when he started out. by the time they chose him for india he had become pedestrian Link to comment
Dravid Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 aggy disappeared? look at his number of matches/wickets.... he has done more then enough. also, sree and munna are young, munaf is already back, and sree will be back soon Link to comment
Predator_05 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 David Jhonson and Dodda Ganesh were never even prospects. They were selected is proof of how desperate we had become. I can not recall them bowling well ever. They were sh itty Southies who got in because of the quota system. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Mohanty was a decent bowler. But he somewhere stopped learning and improving. His spell was instrumental in beating Pakistan in the 99 WC when he bowled 10 overs in one go at the start at an economy rate of a little above 3. But he was dropped following one or two bad series and was never picked again. Though I think it was justified as he showed a complete lack of brain. When Kenyan batsmen smacked him like a high school kid, he was asking to be dropped. Most bowlers got over shadowed because we found better bowlers than them. I think we hit real gold when we discovered Nehra and ZAK. Then came Balaji. However Nehra and Balaji succumbed to injury problems and Zaheer has come a long way. Sree, RP etc are here to stay. i m not sure about sreesanth Link to comment
punjabi_khota Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 add VRVsingh to that He's 23 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 He's 23 yeah but seems to have lost it. i dont see him coming back Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 nilesh kulkarni was a left arm orthodox SPINNER and not a pace bowler. And its funny that yo're calling Sanjay Bangar as a pace bowler. in tat case, i'll include robin singh, ajay jadeja, pharas mhambrey, thiru kumaran etc to the list Link to comment
Predator_05 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 nilesh kulkarni was a left arm orthodox SPINNER and not a pace bowler. And its funny that yo're calling Sanjay Bangar as a pace bowler. The guy who started the thread is probably a paki. Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 The guy who started the thread is probably a paki. tat means just onething. paki fans dont have any better job to do than worrying abt indian pacemen not making the cut... Link to comment
vadodaravictor Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I am feeling that Irfan Pathan is also going to disappear. He showed lot of promise during his initial days but some how has lost it. He has talent to being finest all rounder. I hope he doesn't disappear. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 add VRVsingh to that VRV Singh took 18 wickets in 2 games in the Duleep Trophy last season. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I am feeling that Irfan Pathan is also going to disappear. He showed lot of promise during his initial days but some how has lost it. He has talent to being finest all rounder. I hope he doesn't disappear. also sreesanth. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 VRV Singh took 18 wickets in 2 games in the Duleep Trophy last season. doesnt seem to be internatinal material tho.has height but has lost pace n doesnt have swing Link to comment
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