Its time we give credit where its due.

[veer]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

yeah ' date=' bangladeshi tigers vs i(n)diotic honumaans[/quote'] who the freak is this guy?? daalo saale ko andar..

[MundaPakistani]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

Looks can be deceiving..plus it's not just their self belief that is carrying them foward their players also have some tremendous ability...the likes of Ashraful, Tamim and Aftab are some of the finest young talents in world cricket.

I agree with you about Ashraful, his chip shots (is that what you call them? :hic: ) were masterly, but Smith did give him room by not posting a fielder in that area until almost at the end! In time bowlers and captains will figure him out and cramp him, but even then he is a world class batsman.

He started playing those shots in the 43rd or the 44th over so at that stage the match was hanging in the balance and had he gotten out playing that shot he would have been known as "Asharfool"....i reckon if i was the S African captain i would have allowed him to play like that because there is such a huge chance to pick up a wicket.

However Tamim is a pale version of Afridi and Sehwag. I don't see him lasting long unless he gets some brains and starts picking his shots. Also, he does not have the power of say, Afridi or Glichrist to just hit anything and ensure it goes all the way.

Tamim is a proper batsman and will hopefully learn...Afridi on the other hand is a bowler who can bat(slog).

Aftab....would you say he will find a place in the Pakistan team?

If he starts opening then yes:eew:

[Aditi]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

yeah ' date=' bangladeshi tigers vs i(n)diotic honumaans[/quote'] Is Dumbass your first name by any chance?

[cricajar]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. What planet do you guys live on? WI sucks, nobody denies that they have no batting depth, their bowling is terribly inconsistent...they been crap for years. in '83 India beat WI TWICE So there goes that arguement. What is the point? Bangaldesh cannot win without the other team playing poorly. IF you guys are blind to that then well maybe you should watch some more cricket. 3 Left arm spin bowlers? Are you kidding me? Their second seamer bowls at 120 come on what do you want me to do worship teh bangladeshis? The only reason this thread exists is because its such a big deal when bangladesh wins...every time Sri Lanka wins do we open a new thread? NO. Again...Bangaldesh are an up-and-coming team with some talent and a lot of potential...they're mighty young so they have much time... but they are not the finish product and they Need the opposing team to play like crap in order to win that's just fact.

[respect]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

What planet do you guys live on? WI sucks, nobody denies that they have no batting depth, their bowling is terribly inconsistent...they been ***** for years. in '83 India beat WI TWICE So there goes that arguement. What is the point? Bangaldesh cannot win without the other team playing poorly. IF you guys are blind to that then well maybe you should watch some more cricket. 3 Left arm spin bowlers? Are you kidding me? Their second seamer bowls at 120 come on what do you want me to do worship teh bangladeshis? The only reason this thread exists is because its such a big deal when bangladesh wins...every time Sri Lanka wins do we open a new thread? NO. Again...Bangaldesh are an up-and-coming team with some talent and a lot of potential...they're mighty young so they have much time... but they are not the finish product and they Need the opposing team to play like ***** in order to win that's just fact.

Maybe u hv trouble reading.. but the topic of this thread is "Lets give the credit where it's due" .. this thread exists in response to some of u here who is hving hard time getting over india's lose to bangladesh and keep questioning their ability .. it seems no amount of 'win' is good enough for some...

[Guest dada_rocks]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

i dont think bangladesh should be called minnows anymore. learn from football , they dont chant 'minnows' @ indian & pakistani fans : bad luck happens

They played well today. I do see Bangladesh winning more consistently in the future. But it beats me HOW they are so good!? Most of them look the same, I still cannot tell Ashraful and Saquib apart. Even the wicktkeeper looks the same. And they're all petite and skinny. None of them look like powerful hitters, or savage bowlers. It must be their self belief, their hunger to WIN. Unlike India or Pakistan, they have nothing to lose (yet), so they play with complete abandon. :shrug:

are you anyhow from the pluto and seeing humans for the first time , or the part in ur brain that recognizes a face doesnt work ? i think SA was well prepared , if u closely watch their field setup , u'd find that they set the field based on the weakness of each batsman

a win against top team every 7 month on average shout minnow.. no even a single draw let alone win against any top teams in more than half decade does shout minnow... perform minnow tag will disappear this shouting from roof-top one every half-yearly masala one day win won;t cut it

[sumon77]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

What planet do you guys live on? WI sucks, nobody denies that they have no batting depth, their bowling is terribly inconsistent...they been ***** for years. in '83 India beat WI TWICE So there goes that arguement. What is the point? Bangaldesh cannot win without the other team playing poorly. IF you guys are blind to that then well maybe you should watch some more cricket. 3 Left arm spin bowlers? Are you kidding me? Their second seamer bowls at 120 come on what do you want me to do worship teh bangladeshis? The only reason this thread exists is because its such a big deal when bangladesh wins...every time Sri Lanka wins do we open a new thread? NO. Again...Bangaldesh are an up-and-coming team with some talent and a lot of potential...they're mighty young so they have much time... but they are not the finish product and they Need the opposing team to play like ***** in order to win that's just fact.

Maybe u hv trouble reading.. but the topic of this thread is "Lets give the credit where it's due" .. this thread exists in response to some of u here who is hving hard time getting over india's lose to bangladesh and keep questioning their ability .. it seems no amount of 'win' is good enough for some...

spot on

[yoda]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. to bangladeshi fans: pls post your overall win ratio (wins/total games played) along with the same for other teams. i need to see some numbers before making up my mind about the minnow tag.

[Ram]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. As much as Bangla team has become a decent odi outfit , they are still a long way from becoming a good test team. Their dont have too many wicket takers in their team ( apart from probably mortaza). If this present bowling line up were to come up against a decent batting line-up on a good pitch , they wil surely struggle.

[veer]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. enjoy your one-game win streaks....

[sumon77]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

to bangladeshi fans: pls post your overall win ratio (wins/total games played) along with the same for other teams. i need to see some numbers before making up my mind about the minnow tag.

Since test status in 2000.. our Win/Total ratio is (in 6 years time): 33/118= 28% where as India's Win/Total from 1974-75 to 1980-81 (6 years) is 5/25= 20% remember, you gained test status in 1932, that is you were playing top level already 40 years time and played more than 120 tests by then. I dont know the history, but were you being called minnow those days. if yes, did it hurt? I dont like to pick up on a single team or country, but seeing many of you here LOVE to call us Minnowdesh or whatever, i just went through some stats for the same condition, that is, earlier days for both teams and found you were not that good to be so proud of. actually you should know how a team rises and become world class. anyway, I personally dont bother whoever calls us whatever, cause i know the best answer will be from the field and it will be soon. good day guys.

[chanakya]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. ^^^ Bangladesh has already won a test when did that happen ???

[Rajiv]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. Rafiq_Rocks Check ur PM, don't try that stunt again It;s bye bye next time

[Anakin]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

^^^ Bangladesh has already won a test when did that happen ???

Probably against the zimboks

[King]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

Since test status in 2000.. our Win/Total ratio is (in 6 years time): 33/118= 28%

Firstly this is a ODI stats, Bangladesh has only one test win and that against Zimbabwe I think. Out of the above 33 ODI wins I can remember the following wins that deserves credit : 2 wins against India 1 win against Pakistan 1 win against Australia 1 win against Pakistan About 5 wins against test playing nations in 6 year's times, sorry not good enough to be counted among the top teams :shrug: Bangladesh still is one of the lesser teams. They are getting there slowly but not as yet. I'm quite glad they are starting to improve though. Always good to have more nations competing at a better level :wtg:

where as India's Win/Total from 1974-75 to 1980-81 (6 years) is 5/25= 20%

Is the above stats for tests or ODIs. Also how come you have used some random number of years??? Why from 1974 to 1981?

[yoda]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

to bangladeshi fans: pls post your overall win ratio (wins/total games played) along with the same for other teams. i need to see some numbers before making up my mind about the minnow tag.

Since test status in 2000.. our Win/Total ratio is (in 6 years time): 33/118= 28% where as India's Win/Total from 1974-75 to 1980-81 (6 years) is 5/25= 20% remember, you gained test status in 1932, that is you were playing top level already 40 years time and played more than 120 tests by then. I dont know the history, but were you being called minnow those days. if yes, did it hurt? I dont like to pick up on a single team or country, but seeing many of you here LOVE to call us Minnowdesh or whatever, i just went through some stats for the same condition, that is, earlier days for both teams and found you were not that good to be so proud of. actually you should know how a team rises and become world class. anyway, I personally dont bother whoever calls us whatever, cause i know the best answer will be from the field and it will be soon. good day guys.

[code:1:f3c8a6ee82] Statsguru - Bangladesh - ODIs - Innings by innings list Bangladesh [Home Page] First ODI: v Pakistan at Moratuwa, John Player Gold Leaf Trophy (Asia Cup) 2nd Match, 1985/86 [375] Most Recent ODI: v South Africa at Providence, ICC World Cup 34th Match, 2006/07 [2564] Also: Test Team (2000/01 - 2005/06) Twenty20 Int Team (2006/07) ICC Trophy Team (1979 - 1996/97) Filter: in matches won. Sort order: chronological. P W L T NR % HS LS MC LC BatAv BowAv R/6b C/6b unfiltered 155 36 117 0 2 24% 301 76 391 105 21.6 36.7 4.06 4.95 filtered 36 36 0 0 0 100% 301 185 265 105 35.9 19.8 4.87 3.96 I Bat R/W Ov Li Tar R Match 1 Ken 236 49 50 - L CC Tri. 2 v Ken in Ind 1998 at Hyderabad (Decc) (d/n) [1329] 2 BD 237/4 48 50 237 W 1 BD 185/9 50 50 - W World Cup 17 v Sco in Sco 1999 at Edinburgh [1459] 2 Sco 163 46.2 49 186 L 1 BD 223/9 50 50 - W World Cup 29 v Pak in Eng 1999 at Northampton [1471] 2 Pak 161 44.3 49 224 L 1 BD 238/7 50 50 - W 3rd ODI v Zim in Zim 2003/04 at Harare [2110] 2 Zim 230/9 50 50 239 L 1 BD 221/9 50 50 - W Asia Cup 1 v HK in SL 2004 at Colombo (SSC) [2143] 2 HK 105 45.2 50 222 L 1 BD 229/9 50 50 - W 2nd ODI v Ind in BD 2004/05 at Dhaka (d/n) [2201] 2 Ind 214 47.5 50 230 L 1 BD 244/9 50 50 - W 3rd ODI v Zim in BD 2004/05 at Chittagong (MAA) [2211] 2 Zim 204 47.5 50 245 L 1 BD 247/9 50 50 - W 4th ODI v Zim in BD 2004/05 at Dhaka (d/n) [2214] 2 Zim 189 47.2 50 248 L 1 Zim 198 49 50 - L 5th ODI v Zim in BD 2004/05 at Dhaka [2217] 2 BD 202/2 33 50 199 W 1 Aus 249/5 50 50 - L NW Series 2 v Aus in Eng 2005 at Cardiff [2250] 2 BD 250/5 49.2 50 250 W 1 SL 212 49 49 - L 2nd ODI v SL in BD 2005/06 at Bogra [2336] 2 BD 213/6 47 49 213 W 1 BD 301/7 50 50 - W 1st ODI v Ken in BD 2005/06 at Bogra [2350] 2 Ken 170 48.1 50 302 L 1 Ken 161 49.5 50 - L 2nd ODI v Ken in BD 2005/06 at Khulna [2353] 2 BD 162/1 23.5 50 162 W 1 BD 231 45.5 50 - W 3rd ODI v Ken in BD 2005/06 at Fatullah [2355] 2 Ken 211 49.2 50 232 L 1 Ken 232/9 50 50 - L 4th ODI v Ken in BD 2005/06 at Fatullah [2356] 2 BD 237/3 41.3 50 233 W 1 BD 238/8 50 50 - W 2nd ODI v Zim in Zim 2006 at Harare [2393] 2 Zim 176 44.4 50 239 L 1 Zim 197 49.3 50 - L 5th ODI v Zim in Zim 2006 at Harare [2398] 2 BD 201/2 44.4 50 198 W 1 Ken 168 49.1 50 - L 1st ODI v Ken in Ken 2006 at Nairobi (Gym) [2402] 2 BD 170/4 30.1 50 169 W 1 Ken 184 46.3 50 - L 2nd ODI v Ken in Ken 2006 at Nairobi (Gym) [2403] 2 BD 185/8 46 50 185 W 1 Ken 118 41.2 50 - L 3rd ODI v Ken in Ken 2006 at Nairobi (Gym) [2404] 2 BD 120/4 27 50 119 W 1 BD 231/6 50 50 - W ICC CT 5 v Zim in Ind 2006/07 at Jaipur (d/n) [2427] 2 Zim 130 44.4 50 232 L 1 Zim 184/9 50 50 - L 1st ODI v Zim in BD 2006/07 at Khulna [2453] 2 BD 186/1 45.3 50 185 W 1 Zim 217/7 50 50 - L 2nd ODI v Zim in BD 2006/07 at Bogra (d/n) [2457] 2 BD 218/4 42.4 50 218 W 1 BD 220 49.2 50 - W 3rd ODI v Zim in BD 2006/07 at Bogra (d/n) [2459] 2 Zim 194 49 50 221 L 1 Zim 146 47.2 50 - L 4th ODI v Zim in BD 2006/07 at Dhaka [2461] 2 BD 147/2 32.2 50 147 W 1 Zim 193/8 50 50 - L 5th ODI v Zim in BD 2006/07 at Dhaka [2462] 2 BD 197/7 49 50 194 W 1 Sco 153 45.1 50 - L 1st ODI v Sco in BD 2006/07 at Chittagong (CDS) [2465] 2 BD 154/4 29.1 50 154 W 1 BD 278/6 50 50 - W 2nd ODI v Sco in BD 2006/07 at Dhaka [2467] 2 Sco 132 41.3 50 279 L 1 BD 260/9 50 50 - W 1st ODI v Zim in Zim 2006/07 at Harare [2505] 2 Zim 215 47.5 50 261 L 1 BD 228/9 50 50 - W 3rd ODI v Zim in Zim 2006/07 at Harare [2516] 2 Zim 214 49.4 50 229 L 1 Zim 244/8 50 50 - L 4th ODI v Zim in Zim 2006/07 at Harare [2518] 2 BD 246/9 47.2 50 245 W 1 Ber 205/8 50 50 - L ICC Dev 1 v Ber in WI 2006/07 at St John's [2528] 2 BD 206/2 37.3 50 206 W 1 BD 278/5 50 50 - W ICC Dev 3 v Can in WI 2006/07 at St John's [2530] 2 Can 265/7 50 50 279 L 1 Ind 191 49.3 50 - L World Cup 8 v Ind in WI 2006/07 at Port of Spain [2538] 2 BD 192/5 48.3 50 192 W 1 Ber 94/9 21 21 - L World Cup 24 v Ber in WI 2006/07 at Port of Spain [2554] 2 BD 96/3 17.3 21 96 W 1 BD 251/8 50 50 - W World Cup 34 v SA in WI 2006/07 at Providence [2564] 2 SA 184 48.4 50 252 L [/code:1:f3c8a6ee82] Looks like you guys did a pretty good job organizing series against Kenya and the Zimboks lately. BTW they are (also) called minnows and we typically exclude them when we discuss our maharathis (ganguly, SRT, Dravid) scoring stats and our own win stats as well. And BTW, India winning the 1983 world cup was indeed called a stunner. Some on this board will disagree, yes we did one ODI against WI prior, but we were indeed a ODI laughing stock before 1983. We even lost a warmup to "minor-counties" during the world cup warmups. I am not sure if the "minnow" tag was applied then to us in ODIs, probably not, cause we played so less and our ineffiencies weren't exposed as often although we had to win 83 and then the B&H in 85 to ask for or get any kind of congratulatory pat. I say minnow tag can be safely removed if either of the following happens: 1. You win any multi-team ODI series which involves a non-minnow 2. You win a ODI or test series against any non-minnow

[Anakin]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. Zimboks before the infighting ie during 90s was a very good side, first Bangladesh should try to reach that standard before claiming to be non-minnows.

[radagast]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. Rafiq-Rocks, bhai kotha bolte na janle kotha bolen na. Gala Gali kore nijer naam aar onno bangalir naam keno kharap korchen?

[yoda]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due.

Rafiq-Rocks' date= bhai kotha bolte na janle kotha bolen na. Gala Gali kore nijer naam aar onno bangalir naam keno kharap korchen?

that's right. :hmph:

[dial_100]

Re: Its time we give credit where its due. Long way to go... Please understand cricket. Indians are playing Crap for sure. Or else how could we justfy them beating SL 6-1 in the series. Same team right?? I would still say India is playing very bad recently. I want to congratulate Banglas for their two big wins. :wtg: :wtg: And yes. They still remain 1 of the top Mennows. Prolly Top amongst them. Dont use bad word my friend. It is just a cricket. Its not worth going that far.