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Who was more consistent ?

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I was reading an article.. and this is what was mentioned...

In time, I hope the gossip will leave him and he will be revered like the other great players of the Caribbean because no one has given greater pleasure to spectators. Only Sachin Tendulkar has matched him during his career, but the Indian has been less consistent.
Now thats debatable.. what do you guys think.. who's been more consistent?
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Re: Who was more consistent ? Its a statistical question, therefore deserves a statistical answer. I dont have much time to work on the details now (will do so later). In the mean time if any one is willing to try do the below: 1) Compute the averages of Lara in each year he batted 2) Compute the standard deviation for each year of his career wrt his career average. 3) Then plot a standard deviation graph on excel. That will tell us about the resp player's consistency

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Re: Who was more consistent ? I voted for Tendulkar of course. Lara has had major ups and downs in his career. Sachin Tendulkar has been fantastic for nearly 15 years. Over the last couple of years he has been mediocre but the sheer number of runs in both format shows he has had the best of consistency majority of the times. Lara has had tough times too considering he had to carry the weight of the entire team on his shoulders for roughly 10-12 years. Sachin right now may not be at the top of the game but has some of the best knocks in all parts of the world under his belt. It is a pity a lot of Indians look up to guys like Lara, Ponting and the rest but cannot accord or even respect the way Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid have performed for ages. It is either Rahul Dravid or Tendulkar for the Indian fans. Sure give Tendulkar a stick for not playing well but at the same time considering Tendulkar any less than Ponting or Lara as a batter is a sacrilege. The best the Indian cricket fans should do is talk to people from other cricketing nations and understand how they treat Tendulkar. Tendulkar in this part of the world is "Genius" or "Cricket god". Bad one or two year will not faze that opinion away by any margin. I think Tendulkar gets the best support when he's away from India. Indians are usually fair weather followers, praise someone to no bounds when they do well and tread all over them when they don't.

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Re: Who was more consistent ? Lara's year by year average: [code:ecfab38b0d] 1990 -> 24.50 1992 -> 32.50 1993 -> 58.60 1994 -> 71.14 1995 -> 67.89 1996 -> 25.11 1997 -> 40.90 1998 -> 43.43 1999 -> 59.43 2000 -> 29.24 2001 -> 63.94 2002 -> 35.10 2003 -> 74.67 2004 -> 58.90 2005 -> 65.29 2006 -> 41.61 Overall -> 52.89 [/code:1:ecfab38b0d]

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Re: Who was more consistent ? SRT' numbers year by year [code:51304289b9] 1989 -> 35.83 1990 -> 41.44 1991 -> 19.50 1992 -> 41.90 1993 -> 91.43 1994 -> 70.00 1995 -> 29.00 1996 -> 41.53 1997 -> 62.50 1998 -> 80.88 1999 -> 68.00 2000 -> 63.89 2001 -> 62.69 2002 -> 55.68 2003 -> 17.00 2004 -> 91.50 2005 -> 44.40 2006 -> 24.27 2007 -> 39.00 Overall -> 54.71 [/code:1:51304289b9] On a cursory look, SRT's numbers appear far more close to his avg, hence SRT should be the more consistent one. Will confirm by computing standard deviation

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Re: Who was more consistent ? Two problems with standard deviation (SD). First, it can be applied only if the sample has a normal distribution. Therefore, you ought to perform a test of normality such as the Shapiro- Wilks test before using SD as a measure of dispersion. Individual scores are badly skewed, and I'd strongly argue against the use of SD for such samples. To use it blindly, as the Cricinfo article suggests, makes absolutely no sense. Secondly, SD is hugely influenced by the sample size. Even with a relatively small degree of variance, the SD is likely to be high if the sample size is small. Therefore, it would be unwise to compare the SD of a person who has played 200 innings to somebody who has played only a 100, say. The way to get around this to use a measure called the "standard error of the mean" (SEM), which "adjusts" the SD for the sample size. It's given by the formula: SEM= SD/sq.root of 'n', where 'n' is the sample size. It still assumes normal distribution, though.

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Re: Who was more consistent ? [code:94989cd6cf] X = Running avg as of that year (approximation) Y = Running standard deviation Lara Year Avg X Y 1990 -> 24.50 24.50 0 1992 -> 32.50 28.50 4 1993 -> 58.60 38.50 14.5 1994 -> 71.14 46.60 18.90 1995 -> 67.89 50.92 18.93 1996 -> 25.11 46.62 19.78 1997 -> 40.90 45.80 18.42 1998 -> 43.43 45.50 17.25 1999 -> 59.43 47.05 16.84 2000 -> 29.24 45.27 16.85 2001 -> 63.94 46.97 16.93 2002 -> 35.10 45.98 16.54 2003 -> 74.67 48.18 17.63 2004 -> 58.90 48.95 17.22 2005 -> 65.29 50.04 17.12 2006 -> 41.61 49.51 16.70 Overall -> 52.89 SRT Year Avg X Y 1989 -> 35.83 35.83 0 1990 -> 41.44 38.63 2.80 1991 -> 19.50 32.25 9.30 1992 -> 41.90 34.66 9.0 1993 -> 91.43 46.01 24.11 1994 -> 70.00 50.00 23.75 1995 -> 29.00 47.01 23.19 1996 -> 41.53 46.32 21.77 1997 -> 62.50 48.12 21.14 1998 -> 80.88 51.40 22.33 1999 -> 68.00 52.91 21.82 2000 -> 63.89 53.82 21.11 2001 -> 62.69 54.50 20.42 2002 -> 55.68 54.59 19.68 2003 -> 17.00 52.08 21.20 2004 -> 91.50 54.54 22.63 2005 -> 44.40 53.95 22.09 2006 -> 24.27 52.30 22.51 2007 -> 39.00 51.60 22.11 Overall -> 54.71 [/code:1:94989cd6cf] Surprisingly SRT has higher standard deviation. Will post my interpretation shortly

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Re: Who was more consistent ? ^Shwetabh, thanks for the cricinfo link. This is the 3rd of 4th instance, some thread has shown up on our site a day or two before, cricinfo has an article on it :hic: Dileep if u are reading this, I'd urge u to sign up & post here. We'd love to discuss cricket with u

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