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So guys anyone conversant in indian tax system here. I am actually planning to move to India got couple of offers trying to figure out my take home. I have following questions. Don't laugh if my question turn out to be really moronic. when it comes to taxes I am precisely one. never bothered to check now that I am married with a kid well u start caring about these things. (1) Does India have deduction in taxable income for dependent. If yes then how much it would be for one wife (polygamy is illegal here in canada irrespective of religion;-) ) and one son. In canada they deduce around $ 13000 for every dependent. So let us say if u have $100000 salary and two dependentss u end up paying tax only on $61000. (2) How does tax benefit work out if u buy house on loan. (3) Employer contribution to PF is over and above the salary or they cut it out from ur salary. (4) Any other expense head which brings down the taxabale salary Specific query (1) Surcharge @ 10% applicable if total income exceeds Rs. 8.5 lakh for A.Y. 2005-06 and Rs. 10 lakh for A.Y. 2006-07. Is this 10% of total tax amount or 10% on the amount over and above 10 lakh? (2) When they say income tax deduction, is it deduction from the taxable income or deduction from the final tax amount calculated.

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India Hei... come and live in Brunei... no tax issues at all.... No tax, no interest.... Great country...

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Hei... come and live in Brunei... no tax issues at all.... No tax, no interest.... Great country...
But the question is what will I do in Brunei. I have no connection with oil industry.

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India sure... brunei is dependent on oil... but you dont need to be connected with 'oily' stuff to come to brunei... What do you do now?

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India well i am in semiconductor industry. btw do they have good universities there i can be a prof..

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India you wanna be a prof in Brunei?? Govt uni is UBD(University Brunei Darussalam) aka Useless Brunei Degree... Better choice, Laksamana College of Business... U can do part time there... part time elsewhere... pay shd b good... I'm currently doing my higher diploma there... nex yr off to S'pore for my final yr deg. Ummm.... semi conductor industry as in?

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India semicnductor industry as in what enables u to see this message... integrated circuit design

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India okay, so you wanna be a comp prof? Gud idea in Brunei.. not many in brunei and in good demand... But be prepared for the unexpected...

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India sab meri tarah hi ho kya tax matters challenged.. koi leads do bhai

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sab meri tarah hi ho kya tax matters challenged.. koi leads do bhai
okay dr, if thats meant for me to understand, u just picked the wrong language... if you dint know yet, me dont know hindi... So translate if u want me to respond Monsieur DR....

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India is brunei a predominantly muslim country??? like malaysia?? DR, i recently talked to a long lost cousin of mine after a gap of near 7 yrs... and he works in india.... but single... he told me, he makes a gross of a lakh there, but takes home only 55K or something.... i have a feeling, taxes might be more in india... but it might be easier to evade too....;)

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India ladies don't pay tax till Rs 135000 income as opposed to guys who are exempt till only 100000. this is gender bias.

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is brunei a predominantly muslim country??? like malaysia?? DR, i recently talked to a long lost cousin of mine after a gap of near 7 yrs... and he works in india.... but single... he told me, he makes a gross of a lakh there, but takes home only 55K or something.... i have a feeling, taxes might be more in india... but it might be easier to evade too....;)
yup.. brunei is a muslim country...

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India so how are indian-origins treated in brunei.... what i learnt from my friends, indian-origins in malaysia and indonesia are treated rather horribly... in fact one of them in US, originally hailed from indonesia had a muslim name though he is a punjabi hindu.... to get over biases and opportunities....

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is brunei a predominantly muslim country??? like malaysia?? DR, i recently talked to a long lost cousin of mine after a gap of near 7 yrs... and he works in india.... but single... he told me, he makes a gross of a lakh there, but takes home only 55K or something.... i have a feeling, taxes might be more in india... but it might be easier to evade too....;)
he sud not be paying a penny in tax

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India Oi... you know or not? I'm muslim, ok? There are bad treatments.. but we should know the techniques of getting round that and fitting in... And i think, after being born and brought up here i should know that... The ppl here are fine... I dont know abt indonesia, but what ever u heard abt malaysia is not true... Malaysia is the best place 4 an ndian to go to... i love it... esp 4 hols... They treat us like one of them... like family...

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Oi... you know or not? I'm muslim, ok? There are bad treatments.. but we should know the techniques of getting round that and fitting in... And i think, after being born and brought up here i should know that... The ppl here are fine... I dont know abt indonesia, but what ever u heard abt malaysia is not true... Malaysia is the best place 4 an ndian to go to... i love it... esp 4 hols... They treat us like one of them... like family...
oops(biting my tongue)... but i still have to give credibility to my friend's version who was born and brought up there... I also have another malaysian friend, who is of chinese descent and he openly says, about the domination of islam in his country... But generally opinion was, be it hindu or muslim - indian origin people are treated as second class in those countries is my opinion... maybe brunei is different...

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Oi... you know or not? I'm muslim, ok? There are bad treatments.. but we should know the techniques of getting round that and fitting in... And i think, after being born and brought up here i should know that... The ppl here are fine... I dont know abt indonesia, but what ever u heard abt malaysia is not true... Malaysia is the best place 4 an ndian to go to... i love it... esp 4 hols... They treat us like one of them... like family...
us meaning muslims.. for hindus well as long as u don't have problme with different set of biased rules where bhumiputra (99.9999 muslim) get preferential teatment. as log as u don't ave problme with ur offs-prings being taken away from u if u convert out of islam... as long as u don't have problem with smeone claiming that ur deceased relative secretly converetd and hence u have no rigts over his dead body (happened with one of the hindu mountaineer there).. as long as if u do want to convert out of islam u have no problem with seeking formal persmission from shariah custodians and hence losing ur religious rights to them ( as we speak a muslim lady who converted to chrstianity is in big soup and his conversion case's validity is being fought in court).. as long as u have no problem with govt attaching ultimate sanctityt to islamic place of worship whereas other places of worship cud be demolished moved as and when they deem fit ( recently happend with one 4-5oo year old temple).. as long as u don;t have problem with other than islam no religion being allowed to be preached on public tv.. Just imagine exactly same biases being handed to muslim by a 60% non-muslim majority and u will get a picture of country in civil war. Nothign is happening there because non-muslims chinese indian people are tolerant and despite those biased framework in place are doing great..

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India brunei is no different but to tell you the truth the first thing that ppl i'm meeting the first time say is, "Are you Arab?" Can you imagine...!!! And abt your friend who's chinese... well i think he's been to S'pore where Chinese dominates... all others are secondary... Maybe he likes that... Sure, indians (as a whole) are minorities in malaysia, but seriosly, ive been there with aunts n uncles who 'look' indian, and they are comfy with malaysia too... Actually, brunei is slightly worse than malaysia... We looked down upon to a certain level... they have a nick for us - kaling - coming down uon us cos long, long time ago prisoners were brought to brunei and they had chains attached to their feet... i dont have to explain.. you get it right? But now rational people here think us as clever ppl... not so bad, huh?

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it is 1 lakh per month
only 55000 so they take away 45000.........it sounds like more than flat 30%, actually 45%. are u sure he is not paying some EMI on loan he might have taken

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it is 1 lakh per month
only 55000 so they take away 45000.........it sounds like more than flat 30%, actually 45%. are u sure he is not paying some EMI on loan he might have taken
well, obviously he wouldnt go into those details... but from the looks of it, i assumed, he was taxed around 38-40% and the rest might be PF....

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India Sure, indians (as a whole) are minorities in malaysia, but seriosly, ive been there with aunts n uncles who 'look' indian, and they are comfy with malaysia too... U could be comfy even in a biassed society bottomline is pros and cons what are u willing to risk for parity. This in noway makes the place free equal opprtunity secular society. Too many biassed islamic nation get away with their two tier systemin place due to existance of one really horrible state in thsi regard i.e. saudi arabia. Bottomline is there doesnt exist a muslim majority nation whihc accords to its non-muslim populationthe same level of rights privliege as it does to its muslim population.

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brunei is no different but to tell you the truth the first thing that ppl i'm meeting the first time say is, "Are you Arab?" Can you imagine...!!! And abt your friend who's chinese... well i think he's been to S'pore where Chinese dominates... all others are secondary... Maybe he likes that... Sure, indians (as a whole) are minorities in malaysia, but seriosly, ive been there with aunts n uncles who 'look' indian, and they are comfy with malaysia too... Actually, brunei is slightly worse than malaysia... We looked down upon to a certain level... they have a nick for us - kaling - coming down uon us cos long, long time ago prisoners were brought to brunei and they had chains attached to their feet... i dont have to explain.. you get it right? But now rational people here think us as clever ppl... not so bad, huh?
I have been to malaysia, last year.... just spent one day there.... from what i saw, all menial jobs like cleaning toilets, sweeping, driving shuttles were given to indian-origins.... while talking to them, i came to know, their opportunities would have been better had they been muslims..

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India okay, dr... you seem to have some sort of hard feeling for these muslim majority countries.. any bad experiences personally? i dint know that you meant government treatment... i thought public treatment and thats what i was talking abt...

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India I have never been to any muslim majority country not am even planning to visit anytime soon. Moreover all the points I have raised has hardly anythign to do with my personal experience it's based on institutionalized double standard in place whihc anyone can verify.. Long llive google... An advice: don't let urself be defined by how much u end up making eventually. Good luck in the endeavour anyway.

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India Finally I got hands around this tax conundrum why do they have to make it so involved is beyond me this and that cess . freaking change the flat tax rate no cess or surcharge ever gets dropepd once imposed..that kargil war induced surcharge is still there . The said surcharge (tax on tax) of 10% (over income of more than10 lakh) was introduced as a special measure a few years ago in the wake of natural calamities such as the Gujarat earthquake and Orissa floods, or the Kargil war. these are freaking still there despite reconstruction cost being already covered in each of these instances. Then they have education cess of 2% (on total income tax) this was recently introduced. Hope this money bloody goes to the the grassroot. Let me simplify these riddles of surcahrge and cess in four flat tax brackets: till 100000 no tax 1-1.5 lakh 10.2% 1.5-2.5 lakh 20.4% 2.5-10 lakh 30.6% 10 lakh+ 33.66% U could have deduction upto 1 lakh PF and upto 1.5 lakh on interest on home loan there are several other head under this. I guess this is where tax consultant might come in picture. SO gator ur brother's tax with 12lakh income and assuming 1 lakh PF deduction should be sthg like this: 5100+20400+229500+33660=288660 which is flat 24%. Take home should be 67611.66. So he must be paying some 12000 odd emi on some kind of loan. 40% tax just doesn't make sense. I am tax consultant now:-)

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Re: Tax rate and deduction in taxable income in India DR, there are million ways in india to reduce your taxable income.. I come from self employed family background and I know my dad uses every break available to business owners.. Best would be talk to good tax lawyer. There will be so many ways you can save money.

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:hail::hail::hail: good job DR..... how good are you with taxes in US... we can send u our returns...
Till day before yesterday I didn't know anything about any tax matters do u really want to risk ur returns with me :-)

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DR, there are million ways in india to reduce your taxable income.. I come from self employed family background and I know my dad uses every break available to business owners.. Best would be talk to good tax lawyer. There will be so many ways you can save money.
Business guys I guess have more avenues to save their tax for salaried class it's difficult.

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