patriot Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 3 Others will all get equal credit for scoring centuries. Sachin scored his at a strike rate of about 52. VVS and Dhoni and 55 and 70 odd. Sehwag's massive 160+ comes as usual at about run a ball. Had he scored this at a pathetic strike rate of 50-54. He would have consumed 120 more deliveries or 20 more overs. Result of this test would have been a sorry draw and Saffies would have walked away with a 1-0 victory. In the non-Sehwag era we would have created a martyr of a couple of batters. What can they do if the bowlers are not good enough to take 20 wickets .....they are scoring the runs and ( tons ), thats all they can do, most would have said. A quick glance at the Multan score board against Pakistan 5th day of that match and it seems that too would have been a draw if not for the blitzkrieg rate of scoring the triple by Sehwag. Then that T20 like approach in that 80 from 60 odd in the victory against England chasing an impossible 387 in India. These come readily to mind. I am sure there are many more that Bheem can look up on his database. You can score those runs, but if you can't score them quick enough to help your team win they matter zilch, except for your personal records. As someone rightly pointed out,modern Indian test cricket can be clearly be classified into 2 eras, pre- Veeru and post Veeru. :hatsoff: Link to comment
Ram Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Slight correction; The only reason this test went into the last session on day 5 was because we lost 65 overs on day 4 due to rain. But the point remains, Sehwag's superlative SR has set up so many wins for us in the past and will continue to do so in the future. He is truly, one of a kind! Link to comment
patriot Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Slight correction; The only reason this test went into the last session on day 5 was because we lost 65 overs on day 4 due to rain. But the point remains, Sehwag's superlative SR has set up so many wins for us in the past and will continue to do so in the future. He is truly, one of a kind! Why blame nature...when we have natures freak in our side.:winky: Link to comment
akshayxyz Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I am glad that you created a thread on this. I was thinking to do some maths to see what difference it would have made - had he scored at more human SR. There are other intangible effects also - when an opener plays such big scores at such a pace, it does unsettles opposition bowlers / plans and also boosts rest of the batters. Link to comment
SachDan Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 As someone rightly pointed out,modern Indian test cricket can be clearly be classified into 2 eras, pre- Veeru and post Veeru. :hatsoff: ..as modern INDIAN CRICKET can be cut in to two pieces, pre-Sachin and post-Sachin :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment
Sehwag fan Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Sehwag batting one of the major reasons for India being No. 1 in test cricket... Link to comment
Rajan Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 3 Others will all get equal credit for scoring centuries. Sachin scored his at a strike rate of about 52. VVS and Dhoni and 55 and 70 odd. Sehwag's massive 160+ comes as usual at about run a ball. Had he scored this at a pathetic strike rate of 50-54. He would have consumed 120 more deliveries or 20 more overs. Result of this test would have been a sorry draw and Saffies would have walked away with a 1-0 victory. In the non-Sehwag era we would have created a martyr of a couple of batters. What can they do if the bowlers are not good enough to take 20 wickets .....they are scoring the runs and ( tons ), thats all they can do, most would have said. A quick glance at the Multan score board against Pakistan 5th day of that match and it seems that too would have been a draw if not for the blitzkrieg rate of scoring the triple by Sehwag. Then that T20 like approach in that 80 from 60 odd in the victory against England chasing an impossible 387 in India. These come readily to mind. I am sure there are many more that Bheem can look up on his database. You can score those runs, but if you can't score them quick enough to help your team win they matter zilch, except for your personal records. As someone rightly pointed out,modern Indian test cricket can be clearly be classified into 2 eras, pre- Veeru and post Veeru. :hatsoff: a strike rate of 50-54 is not pathetic in tests..., there are lot of factors which have to be considered..but if some one likes to take a cheap shot at some cricketer, then enjoy! Link to comment
Lord Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 yes Sehwag's SR had a big role to play in our win,but i also think that we would have been safe at Nagpur if he hadnt played that pathetic shot to Parnell.i guess it all evens out anyway Sehwag:hail: Link to comment
patriot Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 ^ In this era of ultra flat decks, especially in the subcontinent, if you are still scoring at about SR 50-54, which is 3 RPO, I am afraid that's not good enough to win tests. Especially with our bowling attack. Just look at the strike rate of our bowlers. Link to comment
Serani Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I wouldnt call an SR of around 50 pathetic especially when Harris was bowling wide outside leg stump for the majority of the day. Link to comment
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patriot Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 I wouldnt call an SR of around 50 pathetic especially when Harris was bowling wide outside leg stump for the majority of the day. He was given wides for those. And besides that, if you find bowlers like Harris and Giles very hard to score off, then nothing much can be said. Remember how Sehwag dealt with Ashley Giles doing the same under Naseer Hussain in 2002 ? Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Sehwags are not available on trees Link to comment
Aadhavzone Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Dhoni can be aggressive as well... its tough to choose between them! wa! Sehwag provided enough momentum... but experience of Sachin and Laxman is definitely required! Link to comment
SachDan Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I wouldnt call an SR of around 50 pathetic especially when Harris was bowling wide outside leg stump for the majority of the day. mate, you are on patriot's ignore list with that comment:haha: Link to comment
Laaloo Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Amazing. By praising one guy ( whom we all like) you are berating other legends in the team. Keep it up Link to comment
patriot Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 its not that cut and dry .... out of the 76 tests sehwag has featured we have won only 16 of those where Sehwag made 50+ .... that is not a good win ratio. Also remember that we have won some really epic contests without veeru featuring prominently. In this match itself Regardless of how much time sehwag took to score MSD would have declared towards end of day 3. the lead would have been lesser but we would have still won. Nah...lesser lead mean less pressure. SAffies would have scraped it in all probability. And yes a SR of 50-55 is not bad at all in test cricket. Viv Richards is unanimously considered the great test match winner of his era, when others had equal or better averages. Wonder why ? Link to comment
Serani Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 He was given wides for those. And besides that' date=' if you find bowlers like Harris and Giles very hard to score off, then nothing much can be said. Remember how Sehwag dealt with Ashley Giles doing the same under Naseer Hussain in 2002 ?[/quote'] I remember Giles getting Tendulkar out, maybe he didnt want to get out to similar tactics again. Link to comment
patriot Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Amazing. By praising one guy ( whom we all like) you are berating other legends in the team. Keep it up That is your way of looking at things. All I am alluding to is that, he is our greatest ever test match winner. Never in Indian Test cricket have batsmen won such impossible victories. What Veeru has done by and large, he is probably the greatest match winning test match batter ever ! Link to comment
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