The Outsider Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. Dont like the demarcation in the poll. A country is inclusive of language, culture, religion etc. How can the distinction be made? Would India still be India if instead of the country it is today it was made up of a monolith of people following Christianity, speaking Romanian, and embedded in Egyptian practises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head coach Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. It'll be interesting to see how many who voted for "country" here ditched Indian citizenship and went behind other countries citizenship for better prospects. You call yourself patriotic and bound to your own country but when you go shopping you look for a citizenship that gives you more gains. This whatz called hyprocricy at its highest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypse Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. Looks like CC and HC two sides of a same coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. offcourse country... for example, country with same religion that is Nepal, comes to battle with our country.. then why would we care what their religion is, we won't leave them thinking they have same religion like us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. It'll be interesting to see how many who voted for "country" here ditched Indian citizenship and went behind other countries citizenship for better prospects. You call yourself patriotic and bound to your own country but when you go shopping you look for a citizenship that gives you more gains. This whatz called hyprocricy at its highest! people leave their country for good of their own.... their is lot of poverty in India, hence ppl leave their country for good.. that doesn't mean anit-Indian or something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. >>> I also accept that bengalis will be closer to bengalis, punjabis with punjabis, etc etc. So where is the problem ? bullshit CC.....i have never had a friend who is uttranchali...ok may be one long time back.... most of my friends have been south indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypse Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. uttranchali... thats a term I am listening after a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. The latter. The culture, languages and religions are what define a country's people and make the country what it is. Without them, the country cannot exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. Religion over Country philosophy is what makes some Indian Muslims celebrate when Pakistan beats India. Some of you might want to reconsider your vote. Yes, we all know a country is identified by it's cutlture, bla bla bla. But the main question here is, do you identify yourself as an "Indian" first or as a "Hindu" or a "Muslim" or a "Religion of choice" first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. It'll be interesting to see how many who voted for "country" here ditched Indian citizenship and went behind other countries citizenship for better prospects. You call yourself patriotic and bound to your own country but when you go shopping you look for a citizenship that gives you more gains. This whatz called hyprocricy at its highest! HC, you just dont know how much NRIs are helping India.... just for one example, there are so many organization in USA alone to help educate children of India.... You just dont know.. and as far as the country or religion question is concerned.. Even Geeta says that Country should be ones top priority.. so Country always comes first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. we were living under illusion that this-- our ancient "Culture" will keep us united as one nation... Our ancient culture rarely united us in the past- even before the muslims. So i dunno why anyone would be under any illusion that our ancient cultural commonality would automatically translate into nationalism. And i think you got this impression completely wrong that nationalism actually translates into preserving a nation in the long term. It doesnt. Infact, nationalism is what causes downfall of nations since as i said, its the nationalistic nutters (along with ideological nutters) who are the first ones over the hill to go invade for some excuse. As i said, to you, its akhanda bharatam, to someone else its mighty iran, to someone else its some zionist nonsense...but its all the same. From my experience, societies that are remarkably cohesive are the ones that have very little nationalism in their society. Canada, Denmark, Norway, etc. are all very stable nation-conciousness wise ( Quebec is the only anomaly really) and they are all very low on the nationalism list. I think you got it wrong that if people are not nationalistic it will lead to the division of a nation. Such may be true for a largely illiterate nation like India but its rarely true in an educated society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumble_rocks Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. Country first always ! CC1981 is behaving like some of the Ummah in PakPassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumble_rocks Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. The latter. The culture' date=' languages and religions are what define a country's people and make the country what it is. Without them, the country cannot exist.[/quote'] Does religion takes precedence over culture and language ? :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumble_rocks Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. It'll be interesting to see how many who voted for "country" here ditched Indian citizenship and went behind other countries citizenship for better prospects. You call yourself patriotic and bound to your own country but when you go shopping you look for a citizenship that gives you more gains. This whatz called hyprocricy at its highest! What if you hold dual citizenship ? :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. What if you hold dual citizenship ? Its largely a moot point since India does not allow dual citizenship yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumble_rocks Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. What if you hold dual citizenship ? Its largely a moot point since India does not allow dual citizenship yet. CC, going by your logic of religion ,culture etc Indian Muslim is justified in supporting Pakistan over India , Right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. CC, going by your logic of religion ,culture etc Indian Muslim is justified in supporting Pakistan over India , Right ? Religion alone is not a sufficient cause- but if its cultural, its a sufficient cause in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. The latter. The culture' date=' languages and religions are what define a country's people and make the country what it is. Without them, the country cannot exist.[/quote'] Does religion takes precedence over culture and language ? :shrug: No, but it does play an important role in shaping the country. Remember, the subcontinent was divided along RELIGIOUS lines (long before the British arrived, BTW). Most modern nations were founded under religion - ie; the USA (one nation under god). I don't think it exactly takes precedence ahead of culture and language, but does it play a vital role in defining a country's identity ? Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head coach Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. It'll be interesting to see how many who voted for "country" here ditched Indian citizenship and went behind other countries citizenship for better prospects. You call yourself patriotic and bound to your own country but when you go shopping you look for a citizenship that gives you more gains. This whatz called hyprocricy at its highest! What if you hold dual citizenship ? :shrug: No one at present holds one. You pledge your allegience towards a country and accept it's citizenship and then privately goes and buys another countries citizenship to favor your desires. How convenient it is to serve two masters at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Re: Important - please vote here. It'll be interesting to see how many who voted for "country" here ditched Indian citizenship and went behind other countries citizenship for better prospects. You call yourself patriotic and bound to your own country but when you go shopping you look for a citizenship that gives you more gains. This whatz called hyprocricy at its highest! Even though I got my GC a gazillion years ago and still haven't applied for US citizenship cause the very thought disgusts me, I wouldn't be getting excited like you judging people just because they decide to get a US/another country citizenship. People do it for various personal reasons and it is not always in conflict with their affinity for their country of origin. Anyways, given that you don't put country first, why the fack would you care what someone else does with their citizenship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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