Wonder About 9/11

[Dhondy]

After the first tower was hit, there was a bit of a gap before the second was attacked (how long?) Once the workers in the 2nd tower heard about the expolsion in the first, why didn't they vacate the tower immediately? Why weren't they asked to do so by the authorities? So many lives could have been saved. Or did they? Does anybody know what went on? How many perished in the 2nd tower vis-a-vis the first?

[Lurker]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 I remember that day as it was yesterday. Was at work checking my emails(must have been around 8:30 am or so). Launched the Internet Browser and just as an instinct went to CNN.com. By then the first tower had been hit and was the breaking news. I was shocked, amazed and stood up in my cubicle and let out a yelp. Pretty soon my colleagues came on over, I showed them the news and we rushed to check out the Big Screen Television in the conference room. Very soon the room was packed. Mostly people were reminiscing about the time they had gone to WTC, it was one of the popular Honeymoon spots. And then the anchor started shouting, "Oh My God there is another one...". Right in front of our eyes the second hit happened. That was also the time we all knew that it was a terrorist act. I think the delay in evacuating the tower was because of that. The first hit was widely acknowledged as an accident of a random accident, sad and unfortunate but still an accident and not a terrorist attack. It was the second hit that made the situation clear..sadly too late. xxxx

[CC1981]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 First thing you should be asking Doc, is how the fack did TWO (not one, but TWO!) towers come down in literally a splitting mirror image of the controlled demolishion of that famous Las Vegas casino few years before 9/11. Somehow a plane weighing hundreds of tons slams into a building and the building..no..two buildings...neatly collapse on their own foundations without breaking off or exploding outwards. That was the first thing that struck me the very same day it happened and honestly, if this doent strike you as fishy, you must think if you've let the spin-job work on you. I remember watching CNN live with my entire engineering class and the professor's first reaction was Americans have pulled down the building after it became clear that its critically damaged. Sorry but there are so many hole in the government story and from a scientific angle that it literally rules out the official government story of being caught unawares by terrorists.

[Dhondy]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 I was doing a clinic. When I came out and saw the TV in the waiting area, I just gaped. Both towers had been hit by then.

[Dhondy]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 Nah, can't buy that, CC. Too sensationalist. You are letting this Amrika-phobia get away with you. :D

[CC1981]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 }:) ;)

[Guest dada_rocks]

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First thing you should be asking Doc, is how the fack did TWO (not one, but TWO!) towers come down in literally a splitting mirror image of the controlled demolishion of that famous Las Vegas casino few years before 9/11. Somehow a plane weighing hundreds of tons slams into a building and the building..no..two buildings...neatly collapse on their own foundations without breaking off or exploding outwards. That was the first thing that struck me the very same day it happened and honestly, if this doent strike you as fishy, you must think if you've let the spin-job work on you. I remember watching CNN live with my entire engineering class and the professor's first reaction was Americans have pulled down the building after it became clear that its critically damaged. Sorry but there are so many hole in the government story and from a scientific angle that it literally rules out the official government story of being caught unawares by terrorists.

:D :D :D Honestly only thing missing is a skull-cap otherwise u are a complete sample.. Do u even know how much work it takes before controlled demolition is triggered and the possibility of getting all that done without even a single soul noticing .

[King]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 I don't reckon 9/11 was a scam but the Pentagon one seems like a scam. How can a flight that hit the outer wall of the Pentagon vanish in no time? Also it left a hole nice and round. I was watching it on the Youtube the other day it was pretty damning the evidence.

[King]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 Looks like you both missed each other quite dearly }:)

[CC1981]

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Do u even know how much work it takes before controlled demolition is triggered and the possibility of getting all that done without even a single soul noticing .

I am an engineer, i come from a family where the total count of engineers and doctors is nearly a dozen if i count my extended family. Does that answer your question, chump ? Do you even know how facking unlikely it is for a building to collapse on its own foundations in an uncontrolled destruction event, nevermind TWO such building and how the probability of explosive/implosive collapse is related to the height of the structure ? Do you have any idea how facking unlikely it is for a plane made of duralumin fibres few inches thick to punch neat holes through SEVERAL walls that are steel reinforced concrete ? Do you have any idea how structural integrity is related to high speed collision dynamics, be it at a subatomic or macroscopic level ? Yet again, you open yer yap in shyte you got no clue in. The one who needs a dunce-cap here is you, not me. Or if you wish, i can educate you in the science that is relevant to this discussion so that your ignorance can be cured.

[kumble_rocks]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 I think the debates here are staged. It can't be humanely possible that DR/Bheem and CC have diametrically opposite views on everything under the sun. :)

[yoda]

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I think the debates here are staged. It can't be humanely possible that DR/Bheem and CC have diametrically opposite views on everything under the sun. Smiling

Not really. It is tough to stage the consistency of CC's stupidity in every thread. He is a natural. :P

[CC1981]

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Not really. It is tough to stage the consistency of CC's stupidity in every thread. He is a natural.

Anytime you wanna delve into the science behind 9/11, feel free. Till then, you can wallow in your ignorance. :P

[yoda]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 Science behind 9/11? Surprised you didn't blame global warming for this one. :jawdrop:

[Guest dada_rocks]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 I am an engineer, i come from a family where the total count of engineers and doctors is nearly a dozen if i count my extended family. Does that answer your question, chump ?

Do you even know how facking unlikely it is for a building to collapse on its own foundations in an uncontrolled destruction event, nevermind TWO such building and how the probability of explosive/implosive collapse is related to the height of the structure ? Do you have any idea how facking unlikely it is for a plane made of duralumin fibres few inches thick to punch neat holes through SEVERAL walls that are steel reinforced concrete ? Do you have any idea how structural integrity is related to high speed collision dynamics, be it at a subatomic or macroscopic level ?

See clown u urself have no conviction.. can u cite any incidents where jumbo size plane had hit building and it has stood or once again ur garbage must be taken os gospel. Family hoga engineers ka par tum ho idiot.

Yet again, you open yer yap in shyte you got no clue in. The one who needs a dunce-cap here is you, not me. Or if you wish, i can educate you in the science that is relevant to this discussion so that your ignorance can be cured.

Ak chhota sa integration to tumse hota nahin aur tum hamko science parhaoge..try next life in this life ur goose is cooked.. now try answering how much time and effort it would take for controllwed demolition of building like WTC and how many people's involvedment would be needed and then the possibiity of all those people buying into adminstration's mass-murder plan.. we all know u are a moron stop solidifying the evidence to that effect..

[CC1981]

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Science behind 9/11? Surprised you didn't blame global warming for this one.

I don't blame you. Never a good idea to pick a fight with an engineer on an engineering related topic. I can understand why you will now promptly avoid anything to do with science and 9/11 like a plague. But if you are up to it instead of just being antagonistic, feel free to answer the engineering-related questions i've posed. America-itis is what you got. Completely understandable.

[CC1981]

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See clown u urself have no conviction.. can u cite any incidents where jumbo size plane had hit building and it has stood or once again ur garbage must be taken os gospel.

WTF has this gotto do with anything ? Can you find me any incident where a 100 storey building collapses in a controlled demolishion manner despite being unplanned and one area of impact ?

Family hoga engineers ka par tum ho idiot.

This is why you didnt answer the ENGINEERING-RELATED questions i posed, right ? Again, you expose your ignorance by avoiding the questions i raised.

Ak chhota sa integration to tumse hota nahin aur tum hamko science parhaoge..try next life in this life ur goose is cooked..

Hota nehin ? I did the whole facking thing where it was relevant to calculus.left it only when the rest of the way was simple algebraic manipulation. And you then said i am fit to teach IIT/JEE entrance math. Ab kya hua ? Khopri ghoom gayee jo maine tere ko retarded saabit kar diya ? And as i said, stop the chat- anytime..ANYTIME you want to learn science from me, i will teach you. Yes, me, teach you. Science. Don't believe it ? TRY ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS I ASKED. Ab ayee khopree line par ?

now try answering how much time and effort it would take for controllwed demolition of building like WTC and how many people's involvedment would be needed and then the possibiity of all those people buying into adminstration's mass-murder plan..

It is far more plausable to plan a controlled demolishion as the government has access to blueprints of ALL major public buildings. It takes a long time of PLANNING..but not a long time of PLANTING..once you got the blueprints that is. Ofcourse, this is engineering- i dont expect you to have any expertise on APPLIED science. Atleast, it is far more plausable than a paper-thin plane punching holes through several concrete walls that are steel reinforced, 100+ storey buildings collapsing on their own footprints in a fashion that is a demolishion expert's dream, etc etc. As i said bacchey- if you want to debate the science of this, feel free. We can all easily find out who will teach whom. But lets do it after this weekend since i am going camping.

[CC1981]

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can u cite any incidents where jumbo size plane had hit building and it has stood or once again ur garbage must be taken os gospel.

.... I see a common trait..you just lack the ability to process data. Period. Otherwise you wouldnt come up with irrelevant crap like this. Show me a single incident where not one but two 100+ storey building collapsed on its own footprints by totally random chance on impact/earthquake or whatever. And you don't have to take my word for gospel. If you have the desire to, i can easily explain to you the science behind it.

Ak chhota sa integration to tumse hota nahin aur tum hamko science parhaoge..try next life in this life ur goose is cooked..

Uhhh..i solved it to all the relevant steps in calculus..left it when it was a matter of simple algebraic manipulation. And you said i am fit to teach JEE/IIT entrance course. Ab kya hua ? Abhimaan se gaand fati ? Yes, i will teach you science,but only if you are interested in learning. Look bacchey, if you are ever interested in arguing scientifically with me, stop the chat and bring it on the table.

now try answering how much time and effort it would take for controllwed demolition of building like WTC and how many people's involvedment would be needed and then the possibiity of all those people buying into adminstration's mass-murder plan..

The govt. has blueprints of ALL major buildings. Down to the basic foundation plan, the entire wiring and waterworks. It takes a lot of PLANNING, yes, not a lot of time PLANTING. Far more likely to rig a building than get TWO buildings to collapse on its own footprints in a totally random fashion. If what you saw on TV was really how it happened, demolishion experts would be out of business...all you'd need to do is hurl a big object high up in the building and watch it AMAZINGLY come down in a fashion that is the dream of a perfectionist demolishon engineer. As i said, you have NO FACKING idea on the science involved and its as easy as 1-2-3-4 to prove. And speaking of moron- i guess we all know who is avoiding who's scientific queries on the event.

[CC1981]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 Pretty hard to answer you D_R when your chamchaas are deleting my posts. Typical fundie way that you and your cohorts are known for. But anytime you want to actually ANSWER the ENGINEERING-RELATED questions i posed, we all will find out who knows his science and who is talking outta his hiney..yet again.

[CC1981]

Re: Wonder About 9/11 It is far more plausable to PLAN this and lend a 'helping hand' to their buddy Osama than watch two 100+ storey buildings just neatly collapse on their own foundations out of pure random blind luck. If thats how demolishion worked, you'd not have demolishon experts. They'd just hurl a big object at the top of the building and AMAZINGLY watch it come down in a fashion that is the dream of all perfectionist demolishion experts. But hey, you need some knowledge in APPLIED SCIENCE to realize that. A basic understanding of APPLIED SCIENCE will also tell you that a paper-thin plane made of duralumin CANNOT punch neat concentric hole through steel-reinforced walls. Its impossible by the physics of it and if you cannot see why ( hint: STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY), you arnt worth squat in science.