Dhondy Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 ...if they leave out Irfan Pathan. IMO, he deserves to play this line-up ahead of Ganguly, Laxman, Tendulkar and Jaffer. He is India's best player of pace behind Dravid, and has a wonderful temparament. IMO, he should play ahead of Tendulkar. But India will take the easy choice, as ever, and leave him out. I don't see us reaching 200 in either innings in this Test match. An innings defeat or a 300+ run drubbing is a given. I don't see any Indian batsman scoring a 50, particularly as Dravid is coming back from injury. India will lose their top 5 for under 75 in both innings. There will be a huge hue & cry in India following this Test. This series will end Sachin, Laxman and Ganguly's careers. Dsr will stop moaning about Pathan once he scores a century in the final Test, in the only Test he plays in this series. OK...OK...5 out of 6 is not bad! Link to comment
Predator_05 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Had a good day at the office, eh Doc ? I would definitely include Pathan, but one batsman can't make such a big difference. It's not as if the batting lineup has deteriorated to the extent that the situation is bound to be a hopeless one if a batsmen or two aren't firing. Laxman spent quite a bit of time out in the middle during the warm up, and Ganguly got a good score as well. and you know how good Sehwag is - all he needs is 30 minutes out there, a few boundaries here and there - and presto ! All of his below-par performances of late will be consigned to the history books before you know it. All India needs is just ONE batsman to strike form and take charge - the rest will follow in line. That's how it has always been. India may not win, but they won't cave in either. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India He is India's best player of pace behind Dravid, and has a wonderful temparament. IMO, he should play ahead of Tendulkar. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Time to prescibe yourself some medication doc Link to comment
Dhondy Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India On a pitch where only one other Indian batsman got past 50, this guy Pathan scored 155 unbeaten runs. His average in the last 10 Tests is better than Tendulkar, Ganguly and Jaffer and as good as Laxman's. How do we reward him? We drop him, that's how! Why? Because he can't bowl. But hey, he can bloody bat! And a lot better than some of the overrated prima donnas hogging their places in the team like it was their birthright! Yup, that's right...reward failure, punish performance. That's the Indian way. Link to comment
Guest dada_rocks Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India I agree the guy needs to play ahead of many batsmen Link to comment
yoda Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India If Indian cricket depends on the batting of a bowler turned batsman, there is no hope. Link to comment
veer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India dropping pathan will turn out to be a biggest mistake.. its not like he is a spinner.. he is a pacer.. and we are not playing on belter.. its a bouncy seaming pitch, just take him even if he cant take wicket.. but damn do not drop him.. batting will look thing with bhajji and pathan out.. (our bowlers batting much better these days.. ) open with veeru and srt.. let SRT block balls all he want.. set up the game for middle order.. veeru srt dravid laxman ganguly pathan dhoni kumble santh khan vrv.. Link to comment
yoda Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Jaffer had a very good test series in WI. As much as I would like him dropped to include Pathan, it doesn't really make sense as the only hope against the SAF bowling is some disciplined top order batting. Link to comment
veer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Jaffer had a very good test series in WI. As much as I would like him dropped to include Pathan' date=' it doesn't really make sense as the only hope against the SAF bowling is some disciplined top order batting.[/quote'] I dont understand this.. why people keep talking about previous series.. just look at current situation and forms.. two ducks in practice game and horrible ODIs.. Link to comment
yoda Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Jaffer had a very good test series in WI. As much as I would like him dropped to include Pathan' date=' it doesn't really make sense as the only hope against the SAF bowling is some disciplined top order batting.[/quote'] I dont understand this.. why people keep talking about previous series.. just look at current situation and forms.. two ducks in practice game and horrible ODIs.. It was a mistake to add him to the ODI team. Practice match is to get practice, that's it. If you got good practice, good for you. If not, better perform still when tests start. I would take someone who has done reasonably well in the last series than the last practice match. You can't drop a guy who scored a 200 in his last test series. Link to comment
gullu Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Scores after 1st session India 49 for 4 RSA 81 for 3 Link to comment
veer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Jaffer had a very good test series in WI. As much as I would like him dropped to include Pathan' date=' it doesn't really make sense as the only hope against the SAF bowling is some disciplined top order batting.[/quote'] I dont understand this.. why people keep talking about previous series.. just look at current situation and forms.. two ducks in practice game and horrible ODIs.. It was a mistake to add him to the ODI team. Practice match is to get practice, that's it. If you got good practice, good for you. If not, better perform still when tests start. I would take someone who has done reasonably well in the last series than the last practice match. You can't drop a guy who scored a 200 in his last test series. yes it was a mistake.. but atleast he can make slow 20s or 30s.. unable to score runs on these pitches means that he is weak against bouncy seaming wickets.. plus he will be opening that will be just walking wicket .. if we had no other option then yes jaffer should be playing.. but we have pathan who is doing good.. Link to comment
Lurker Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Pathan's case for inclusion is a fair one. If one goes by current form based on practice games than surely he deserves to be in there. However by not playing Pathan India is going in with pure specialists. Batsman, bowlers and keepers who all know their job. If anyone doesnt perform then his place should be on the line. Much as it is perhaps unfair towards Pathan it is also a hidden signal to specialist to "Put up or Shut up". Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India dropping pathan will turn out to be a biggest mistake.. its not like he is a spinner.. he is a pacer.. I assume that was a typo and you meant to say .."not like he is a pacer, he is a spinner.." Link to comment
PaiN_KiLLeR Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India pathans name doesnt figure in the starting 12 for tommorow ridiculous decision ... Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Why? would have taken wickets or scored a ton? No. Let him prove in FC if he now wants to turn himself in to a batsman who can score loads of runs Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India The real blow is that Munaf misses out cos of injury. That is a real catastrophe, he is our best pacer Link to comment
Gambit Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India Tell me this was a reverse jinx post Dhondy! To be fair, I also expected a thrashing. :flux: Link to comment
Guest BossBhai Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India -- Removed on request of the user -- Link to comment
beetle Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Wanderers' will be a catastrophe for India I was expecting a boring draw.... Link to comment
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