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Trent Bridge Test, 2011 : Day by day prediction and discussion

Trent Bridge Test, 2011 : Day by day prediction and discussion  

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India were in the middle of a mini-collapse in the final session of the Lord’s Test on Monday when S Sreesanth, with a towel on his shoulder and a couple of water bottles in his hands, headed towards the training area at the Nursery End. Had Munaf Patel not been on drinks duty for the match, he too might have accompanied Sreesanth to the nets. With skipper MS Dhoni dropping enough hints that injured pace bowler Zaheer Khan might not play in the second Test at Trent Bridge starting on Friday, everyone in the squad has been in a state of readiness, with Munaf and Sreesanth put on high alert. On the scenic London-Nottingham road trip on Tuesday, the India captain’s constantly ticking mind would have been busy dealing with a complex question, one that has no real right answer. Sreesanth or Munaf, is a devil-and-the-deep-sea dilemma that is sure to leave one with a headache. They can exhilarate and annoy, all in a space of a couple of deliveries. Many an Indian cricket observer has attempted to understand them, but soon moved on to easier subjects after labelling the duo as ‘enigmatic’. So when it comes to choosing one of the two pacers, if not a toss-up, gut feel could be the sole basis of selection. England pacer Angus Fraser — who has seen Indian cricket from close quarters, first as a player and later as a cricket writer — acknowledges their talent as well as inconsistency, before pausing for a moment and taking his pick. “Sreesanth swings the ball, while Munaf is an old-fashioned medium pacer. But Munaf seems a bit moody at times,†Fraser says. “I’ll go with Munaf. He is potentially a very high quality bowler, if he gets more consistent with his bowling and his mindset.†Fraser’s neutral opinion notwithstanding, it is going to be a tough call for the India think-tank. Writing off Sreesanth for the second Test will be tough as he has been pitching the ball up and perfectly on the seam at the nets. In that case, can’t India go with four pacers at Trent Bridge and include both Sreesanth and Munaf in the playing XI? In other words, can’t they drop Harbhajan Singh? It won’t be an outrageous decision, not the least because the off-spinner had just one wicket to show from 56 overs, and couldn’t quite weave a web of intrigue around the England batsmen. If India are ever to go with a four-pronged pace attack on this tour, it has to be at Trent Bridge. The list of leading wicket-takers at this venue is overwhelmingly dominated by fast bowlers — of the top-20 wicket-takers, 17 have been pacers and three leg-spinners. Over here, finger spinners find it tough to make an impression. In the first Test of the England-Pakistan series in 2010 — the last longer-version international game played here — the pacers played havoc. Of the 37 wickets that fell, 33 went to the pacers and there were two run-outs. England offie Graeme Swann had perhaps the easiest game of his career, as he bowled just 2 overs. Carrying drinks isn’t something Harbhajan has done often. Despite being under tremendous pressure, he has retained his place in the side. Dhoni rarely takes the field without the experienced spinner by his side. Even after his modest outing at Lord’s, the Indian skipper saw positives in his bowling performance. “We saw a lot of improvement in his bowling. He bowled a lot slower in this game. It was slightly tough for him, especially in the first innings when (Kevin) Pietersen got set and started going after him. It was difficult as there was no real turn,†he said. Dhoni didn’t stop there, he added that he was also impressed by the bounce that Harbhajan got and he hoped that at a spin-friendly venue, his frontline slow bowler will be more effective. Trent Bridge, of all, isn’t that venue. If Dhoni sticks with Harbhajan — and that’s what it seems at the moment — he will be dealing with the Sreesanth vs Munaf quandary. But if, for once, he sees the bowlers without their ‘pacer’ and ‘spinner’ tags and picks the best four available, he can avoid the debate and play both Munaf and Sreesanth along with, of course, Ishant Sharma and Praveen Kumar.

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y every1 is against Bhaji....... eng player play well :weights: .... dats different our player played nt well against swann Mukund GG RD SRT Laxman Raina Dhoni (we dnt hve any other option.... he keeps s*cks, bat su*k, i never liked Dhoni) Bhaji PK Ishant Sree :cry_smile: first time i m sayin to tke Sree

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The Weather in Nottingham Trent Bridge often produces a wet test or at least overcast. It also seems for some reason to swing there more than at other grounds. However, the weather forecast is good. So I predict a long fought draw or an England win due to our superior bowling attack Discuss?

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Trent Bridge often produces a wet test or at least overcast. It also seems for some reason to swing there more than at other grounds. However, the weather forecast is good. So I predict a long fought draw or an England win due to our superior bowling attack Discuss?
What if Engerland lose ? Discuss

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If you lose even there.Start blaming the crowd for unneccessary noise which did not allow england players to concentrate on the work ahead and allowed distraction to creep in the minds of the committed English players.
I will be in the crowd. Our guys like the noise

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Is this weather in Notthingham thread? Looks like a thread for jokes section.
Only because people are not talking about Trent Bridge and the weather. It is actually set to be sunny with a little high cloud if you can believe the weather men:haha: If it is this could be a very close hard fought match, which i think we will either win or draw

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Read the first post' date=' not just the topic and then decide, it was not only about weather :winky:[/quote'] True. We could discuss who has the better side to exploit A/ The weather and B/ The Trent Bridge notorious conditions. Needless to say that with Jimmy in our team at his favorite ground I think we do:--D

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True. We could discuss who has the better side to exploit A/ The weather and B/ The Trent Bridge notorious conditions. Needless to say that with Jimmy in our team at his favorite ground I think we do:--D
TB seems to be favorite ground of Sachin also. :winky:

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TB seems to be favorite ground of Sachin also. :winky:
True, but he is over the hill and should attend with a zimmer frame:--D The little master will now rub my nose in it by getting a double or even treble hundred:((

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Looks like Gambhir won't play. What Indian team will do now?

Zaheer Khan has been ruled out of the second Test which begins in Nottingham on Friday, MS Dhoni has said. There had been doubts about Zaheer's availability for the match after he pulled out with a hamstring injury while bowling in England's first innings on the first day of the Lord's Test. India have Munaf Patel and Sreesanth as back-up seam options. India's other injury concern surrounds Gautam Gambhir who, Dhoni said, was doubtful "as of now" after injuring his left elbow during the Lord's Test. He is being given some time, Dhoni said, and a decision on him would be taken on the morning of the Test. He didn't train yesterday but was at nets today. India have limited options at opener, with Virender Sehwag not expected to be match fit before the third Test. India go into the Trent Bridge Test 1-0 down in the four-match series; England will go to No 1 in the Test rankings if they win the series by a two-Test margin.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2011/content/current/story/525093.html Will we see this team in second test? Mukund Yuvraj (playing match after long time) Dravid Sachin Laxman Raina Dhoni Harby/Munaf PK Ishant Sree (Playing match after for long time)

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Big blow for India. Now both bowling and batting will have to deliver equally as you can't expect Ind to bat out the opposition w/ Sehwag and now GG likely to miss out As destiny would have it, Ind's most hated cricketer (after Bhajji), Sree, is the one key guy who could tilt the game for India. :haha: X1, considering the unfits: - Mukund - Dravid - Laxman - Tendu - Raina - Yuvi - Dhoni - PK - Ishant - Sree - Munaf / Mishra PS GG seems to be available so not as bad as I initially thought

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rett you are being over optimistic about Sree. Did you check his fitness' date=' he has become fat too.[/quote'] But we need a good performance from him and Ishant .... IF these two fire, Ind could hope to bowl Eng out twice for less than what Ind would get :good:

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But we need a good performance from him and Ishant .... if these two fire' date=' Ind could hope to bowl Eng out twice for less than what Ind would get :good:[/quote'] That is exactly the problem with Sree. He fires too seldom. We need atleast two in form bowlers in the test - if Bhajji doesnt fire then it has to be Sree and Ishant. Conditions at TB will suit PK too.

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That is exactly the problem with Sree. He fires too seldom. We need atleast two in form bowlers in the test - if Bhajji doesnt fire then it has to be Sree and Ishant. Conditions at TB will suit PK too.
Dhoni said the pitch didn't help Bhajji at Lords so how would be justify picking him on a surface that's even more spinner unfriendly :P

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Dhoni said the pitch didn't help Bhajji at Lords so how would be justify picking him on a surface that's even more spinner unfriendly :P
We need atleast one spinner on the track. there has to be some level of variety in the attack - and Raina or Yuvi are not going to be specialist spinners.

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Down with Injuries - India WILL conquer land of Sherlock Holmes India have already lost it's most pivotal bowler - Zaheer Khan. It's like early 2011 all over again for England as they have started celebrating like they did in Ashes. The media, the public have already agreed that this touring INdian side is no where as good as England. But well, thats not the first time. India have seen this happen during all recent tours. From 2002 to 2011. From Ajit Agarkar's century at Lord's test to 2011, India have managed to reach no. 1 officially in ranking chart, but yet the media still continues to show ignorance. Being passionate about your country is one thing, but ignoring what world champions can do is one. England having won first test, look to be pretty good, but Indian team with it's middle order of DRAVID-TENDULKAR-LAXMAN, are still the best trio to have played together in any batting line up. One team can rack up over 500+ twice against Indian bowling, but it will be hard to breakthrough this middle order consistently. With Ishant Sharma peeking well, and Praveen Kumar looking promising to take atleat 3 wickets everytime he turns up, one more help from any of the bowler will make India an ideal unit. They want their third bowler to click. Whether its Harbhajan or Mishra, or Sreesanth, one would have to fill Zaheer's bowling slot and make it count. India would look to repeat perth at Trent Bridge as they hope their premier bat Gambhir is fit enough to turn up for 2nd test. This INdian team will be hard to beat 2 times in a row. No other team has been able to do this in long long time. England would have to play some real special cricket. India shall make it 1-1 and will be on the road to CONQUER THE LAND OF SHERLOCK HOLMES. LET'S GET THEM INDIANS.

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India have already lost it's most pivotal bowler - Zaheer Khan. It's like early 2011 all over again for England as they have started celebrating like they did in Ashes. The media' date=' [b']the public have already agreed that this touring INdian side is no where as good as England. But well, thats not the first time. India have seen this happen during all recent tours. From 2002 to 2011. From Ajit Agarkar's century at Lord's test to 2011, India have managed to reach no. 1 officially in ranking chart, but yet the media still continues to show ignorance. Being passionate about your country is one thing, but ignoring what world champions can do is one. England having won first test, look to be pretty good, but Indian team with it's middle order of DRAVID-TENDULKAR-LAXMAN, are still the best trio to have played together in any batting line up. One team can rack up over 500+ twice against Indian bowling, but it will be hard to breakthrough this middle order consistently. With Ishant Sharma peeking well, and Praveen Kumar looking promising to take atleat 3 wickets everytime he turns up, one more help from any of the bowler will make India an ideal unit. They want their third bowler to click. Whether its Harbhajan or Mishra, or Sreesanth, one would have to fill Zaheer's bowling slot and make it count. India would look to repeat perth at Trent Bridge as they hope their premier bat Gambhir is fit enough to turn up for 2nd test. This INdian team will be hard to beat 2 times in a row. No other team has been able to do this in long long time. England would have to play some real special cricket. India shall make it 1-1 and will be on the road to CONQUER THE LAND OF SHERLOCK HOLMES. LET'S GET THEM INDIANS.
What gives you the impression that the public have started celebrating?

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With Ishant Sharma peeking well, and Praveen Kumar looking promising to take atleat 3 wickets everytime he turns up, one more help from any of the bowler will make India an ideal unit. They want their third bowler to click. Whether its Harbhajan or Mishra, or Sreesanth, one would have to fill Zaheer's bowling slot and make it count. India shall make it 1-1 and will be on the road to CONQUER THE LAND OF SHERLOCK HOLMES. LET'S GET THEM INDIANS.
Theoretcally, anyone replacing Zak would be the 3rd seamer/2nd spinner because if that bowler was good enough to fill in Zak's shoes, he would have been in the 11 in the first place :P

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Eveywhere you read. Whichever tabloid, English commies etc. I haven't heard much of Sky commies, but whatever little I heard from them, all were speakin trash and had accepted India as a mediocre team. Barring BUMBLE, I must say. Nasser, Ian, David Gower(even though he's best of the lot), all look to be like India don't have the bowlers needed to win. England have done enough to win the series.

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Sherlock - no man..lets get modern..land of harry potter or harry puttar In addition, as we keep touring our animosity towards the host country has started increasing. We seem to get bitter and bitter, have no patience, react as if it's end of the world, question everything under the sun. We are passionate about the game but lets not make it WW3, at times I feel India needs another sport to be crazy about

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Sherlock - no man..lets get modern..land of harry potter or harry puttar In addition, as we keep touring our animosity towards the host country has started increasing. We seem to get bitter and bitter, have no patience, react as if it's end of the world, question everything under the sun. We are passionate about the game but lets not make it WW3, at times I feel India needs another sport to be crazy about
I guess you are rite in a way. Also we do have other sports which Indians are really passionate about. I don't know if you will agree with me on this, but it has lot of lot of Tennis and Soccer fans, but because of our massive population and 90% atleast being cricket fanatics, the other sports fanatics don't really come in picture. Those 10% are still plenty for a massive size country as ours is, but then again 90% of the huge country like INdia deals with CRICKET, so it's hard for some other sport's fan to get as much attention.

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Lets hold onto all the chances created by our bowlers and see the difference. We need to go back to being a very safe catching unit despite being a mediocre fielding side in tests. We catch everything that comes our way and we will win.

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Looks like GG may sit out as well and Dravid may have to open. UV will be the likely replacement' date=' IMO.[/quote'] If UV does play then I would go with four pacers and drop bhajji.

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Lets hold onto all the chances created by our bowlers and see the difference. We need to go back to being a very safe catching unit despite being a mediocre fielding side in tests. We catch everything that comes our way and we will win.
Good point. Really one of the easiest and most important saying in cricket is "catches win matches" Never gets old. So important. We need better effort from Dhoni behind the stumps. He has been total shadow from the last tour. Also I would like to see dravid-Raina-Laxman. Yes 3 slips annd a gully for our seamers. In gully I would prefer Mukund or maybe Sachin.

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Being Dhoni If a team does well, captains are given plenty of credit. Once the same team loses, captains are often bounced out with lot of criticism. Critics will continue and from news channels to newspapers, a captain would reach from high to low headlines after just one match. Such is what our champion captain going through after recent world cup win. Not that he has come out sane in all departments. He has been ordinary in his keeping, but the truck load of problems which he has had to face, definitely deserves mention. Dealing with bowlers like Zaheer Khan, who has been our best bowler, but has been very disappointing in terms of promise shown in his fitness. To rule yourself out from bowling after just half day of bowling during the start of the series, doesn't really help any team or captain. Your top bat, gets a viral fever and has to unfortunately spend the day in a hotel than on the field, doesn't help either. It was problems of plenty for Dhoni. It's hard to win from such situation. All together, England didn't just play well against us, but the won the mental battle too against Dhoni and team in the whole first test. They enhanced their performance knowing that Indians were with 1 bowler less and that showed in their game. We weren't prepared going into first test that we will face such problems. Now having known all of these problems before the start, I think Dhoni would be ready to face challenges ahead in this test. He would know how and when to use Harbhajan(if he gets to play), who has been really disappointing in first test. I agree with people who say "captaincy is overrated" but this rite now is one of those situations where captaincy will be really tested. These are the moments where you can seriously test the captain. Who's bad, good and the great. At the end of the day - JO JEETA WOHI SIKANDAR. Dhoni has come out as champion in most of the situations whenever India has been down. He has made the right moves. and once again Dhoni will snatch back the attention and headlines towards him once the 2nd test meets it's closure.

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Well I still think we can get a 1-1 result in this series and only reason for that is MSD,he has done it in the past,he has to do it again. He needs to inspire his team like he always does and he can do that by having a good game himself at Trent Bridge with both bat and gloves.

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What should be the order of the batsmen? Mukund Dravid Laxman Sachin Yuvi Raina Dhoni This looks weak after Sachin. 2-3 quick wickets in first hour and England may run into this side when the playing actually becomes little bit easier.

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What should be the order of the batsmen? Mukund Dravid Laxman Sachin Yuvi Raina Dhoni This looks weak after Sachin. 2-3 quick wickets in first hour and England may run into this side when the playing actually becomes little bit easier.
I'd maybe promote Raina to 3 and give him some responsibility. Unless Sachin was prepared to either come in at 1 down or drop to 5 (Raina would then go to 4).

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What should be the order of the batsmen? Mukund Dravid Laxman Sachin Yuvi Raina Dhoni This looks weak after Sachin. 2-3 quick wickets in first hour and England may run into this side when the playing actually becomes little bit easier.
Bamboo lag jayega iss batting order ke saath. :cantstop::cantstop:

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