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Edgbaston test : Day by day prediction and discussion

Edgbaston test : Day by day prediction and discussion  

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I agree. i think the team just lost steam. Two post tea sessions killed it for Team India. On day 4, another pain point might have been trott's lbw. Remember PK just got morgan out and bowled a peach of an inswinger to trott which our dear old erasmus declined. These freak incidents really lift the morale of the team up and drive confidence. I hope the team will regroup and find energy in the next match. 2 - 2 i say. 2 - 2
We can all dream, but don't let Broad the bogeyman disturb your sleep:winky:

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If 2-2 happens' date='it will be a miracle.Actually I will be pleasantly surprised if we win even 1 out of remaining 2 tests.[/quote'] I would not be surprised either, but I don't think you will win both

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For the third test England have decided in the spirit of cricket and seeing as blood sport is banned in the UK, to make the following changes. Cook will remain at opener and be encouraged to prod harder and follow any swinging ball with his pad (No change there then) Strauss will not play a third man, like Dhoni and allow Tendulkar to milk his 100th hundred off glances + his usual drives. Bell, in at three for the injured Trott, will have an inch taken off each side of his bat Pietersen will only be allowed to score on the 'on side' Morgan will not be allowed to sweep. Prior will not be allowed on the pitch at all, he is just too scary and so he will be replaced with Davis in pink Bresnan has been told to go and stay at his granny's till the test, which usually means he puts a stone on, so that should slow him up a bit. Broad will open with Cook, to give the Indian bowlers a chance to poleaxe him(Strauss has to bat at 5 where he might score some bloody runs) Swann has been asked to tell a few more jokes to Harby and Sreesanth on the pitch, to cheer them up a bit. Tremlett is to under go surgery to shorten him by 6 inches Also we are not going to bother with the toss, bloody Strauss cannot win it anyway, so you will get first choice as usual. and lastly, Anderson is not going to be allowed to bowl at Tendulkar, because it is just not fair on the old guy:winky: This post is meant to be humorous, please take it as such
You could do all these, but we'll still outdo everything you can do! Just in case we win a session or two, expect us to gloat, "See what a full strength Indian team can do to you ?". But if we happen to be whooped like the first two tests, here are some ready to roll out excuses: Sehwag: He's just come back, allow him a couple of test matches to warm up. He'd have whooped you guys in Test #5, too bad the series does not last that long. Gambhir: Returning from an injury, imagine what would have happened to England, had Cook been injured ? (Dont remind us that Cook didnt make any runs) Dravid: He's scored two 100s already, what more do you want him to do. SRT: Pressure of a billion fans's expectations! Laxman: Has won so many games single handedly, he's allowed to lose some single handedly Yuvraj: The guy has never been given a continuous run. Even in the morning, he could not complete his lap without being interrupted. Dhoni: Captain is only as good as his players Bhajji: We have run out of excuses for Bhajji, we've ordered some from Pakistan. Until they arrive, "He just completed 400 wickets for christ's sake, give him a break!" PK/Ishant: Inexperienced bowlers Zak: Broke down because of the sheer burden on his shoulders. If all else fails, there's always Duncan Fletcher and then the umpires! This post is NOT meant to be humorous, please do not dismiss it as such.

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You could do all these, but we'll still outdo everything you can do! Just in case we win a session or two, expect us to gloat, "See what a full strength Indian team can do to you ?". But if we happen to be whooped like the first two tests, here are some ready to roll out excuses: Sehwag: He's just come back, allow him a couple of test matches to warm up. He'd have whooped you guys in Test #5, too bad the series does not last that long. Gambhir: Returning from an injury, imagine what would have happened to England, had Cook been injured ? (Dont remind us that Cook didnt make any runs) Dravid: He's scored two 100s already, what more do you want him to do. SRT: Pressure of a billion fans's expectations! Laxman: Has won so many games single handedly, he's allowed to lose some single handedly Yuvraj: The guy has never been given a continuous run. Even in the morning, he could not complete his lap without being interrupted. Dhoni: Captain is only as good as his players Bhajji: We have run out of excuses for Bhajji, we've ordered some from Pakistan. Until they arrive, "He just completed 400 wickets for christ's sake, give him a break!" PK/Ishant: Inexperienced bowlers Zak: Broke down because of the sheer burden on his shoulders. If all else fails, there's always Duncan Fletcher and then the umpires! This post is NOT meant to be humorous, please do not dismiss it as such.
:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

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Bhajji: We have run out of excuses for Bhajji, we've ordered some from Pakistan. Until they arrive, "He just completed 400 wickets for christ's sake, give him a break!"
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You could do all these, but we'll still outdo everything you can do! Just in case we win a session or two, expect us to gloat, "See what a full strength Indian team can do to you ?". But if we happen to be whooped like the first two tests, here are some ready to roll out excuses: Sehwag: He's just come back, allow him a couple of test matches to warm up. He'd have whooped you guys in Test #5, too bad the series does not last that long. Gambhir: Returning from an injury, imagine what would have happened to England, had Cook been injured ? (Dont remind us that Cook didnt make any runs) Dravid: He's scored two 100s already, what more do you want him to do. SRT: Pressure of a billion fans's expectations! Laxman: Has won so many games single handedly, he's allowed to lose some single handedly Yuvraj: The guy has never been given a continuous run. Even in the morning, he could not complete his lap without being interrupted. Dhoni: Captain is only as good as his players Bhajji: We have run out of excuses for Bhajji, we've ordered some from Pakistan. Until they arrive, "He just completed 400 wickets for christ's sake, give him a break!" PK/Ishant: Inexperienced bowlers Zak: Broke down because of the sheer burden on his shoulders. If all else fails, there's always Duncan Fletcher and then the umpires! This post is NOT meant to be humorous, please do not dismiss it as such.
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You could do all these, but we'll still outdo everything you can do! Just in case we win a session or two, expect us to gloat, "See what a full strength Indian team can do to you ?". But if we happen to be whooped like the first two tests, here are some ready to roll out excuses: Sehwag: He's just come back, allow him a couple of test matches to warm up. He'd have whooped you guys in Test #5, too bad the series does not last that long. Gambhir: Returning from an injury, imagine what would have happened to England, had Cook been injured ? (Dont remind us that Cook didnt make any runs) Dravid: He's scored two 100s already, what more do you want him to do. SRT: Pressure of a billion fans's expectations! Laxman: Has won so many games single handedly, he's allowed to lose some single handedly Yuvraj: The guy has never been given a continuous run. Even in the morning, he could not complete his lap without being interrupted. Dhoni: Captain is only as good as his players Bhajji: We have run out of excuses for Bhajji, we've ordered some from Pakistan. Until they arrive, "He just completed 400 wickets for christ's sake, give him a break!" PK/Ishant: Inexperienced bowlers Zak: Broke down because of the sheer burden on his shoulders. If all else fails, there's always Duncan Fletcher and then the umpires! This post is NOT meant to be humorous, please do not dismiss it as such.
:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

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:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
I know it is painfull Dr Wobbly suggests that you take large amounts of video footage of your WC win, supplemented with sex with that woman that you have not spoken to, apart from grunting the need for more alcholol to numb the experience of watching India play cricket in England:--D

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Speaking of making excuses for players, this is what the same member posted on the other thread.

And if you are worried about English players being abused, think again. We leave no stone unturned when it comes to abusing Indian players themselves. You could literally pick any Indian player and search for "Dhoni ****" or "Sachin #$%&", i guarantee you, the search will return you something. Such is our rich tradition.
In keeping with the title of the thread, it does even things out.

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I know it is painfull Dr Wobbly suggests that you take large amounts of video footage of your WC win, supplemented with sex with that woman that you have not spoken to, apart from grunting the need for more alcholol to numb the experience of watching India play cricket in England:--D
Erm..I was laughing at the post:((

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If the Zak Ass does not play the 2 day game and bowls close to 20 overs on one of the days no way should he be allowed anywhere close to the XI. Enough of some of these guys treating the team as their personal fiefdom and using Test matches as testing grounds for their fitness. A shame in a way.

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If the Zak Ass does not play the 2 day game and bowls close to 20 overs on one of the days no way should he be allowed anywhere close to the XI. Enough of some of these guys treating the team as their personal fiefdom and using Test matches as testing grounds for their fitness. A shame in a way.
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As we all know Zaheer is a Muslim and would be having Rozaperhaps. I play cricket with lot of Muslims in my team, and they do tend to take break from the game or some of them just choose to not have Roza fast on that paritcular match day. But this is a 5 day game. I think it's hard for a bowler to keep fast for 5 days and perform. I know it feels weird to discuss this. but I think it's important topic.
Is that a phaacking word, Arsenic man?

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As we all know Zaheer is a Muslim and would be having Rozaperhaps. I play cricket with lot of Muslims in my team, and they do tend to take break from the game or some of them just choose to not have Roza fast on that paritcular match day. But this is a 5 day game. I think it's hard for a bowler to keep fast for 5 days and perform. I know it feels weird to discuss this. but I think it's important topic.
Is that a phaacking word, Arsenic man? And Zak? He will take no part in this series anymore....that fat bastard!

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They are backing you, only because they are not the number 1 team at the moment & their rivalry towards the English (Ashes) My view that England is not a true number 1 test side until they win matches in the sub continent..they were horrible in the world cup..had no freaking clue on how to play well in spinning wickets likewise..India will not be the best test side in the world until you lot win the series in England..Like england cannot cope well in the sub continent...it seems that you cannot cope well in Bouncy Seaming conditions in England... So both the teams seems to be good only in their favorable conditions...

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Yeah, I agree with you jukkha. Now that Bhaji is definitely out, I would play the four seamers. Viru can bowl a bit of offspin too if it is required, and although he isn't a great bowler, he can get through overs, if a bowler needs some rest. I think Kumar can become a Swann sort of player, but we really need Bhaji back in form to get a truly solid allrounder. The guy is a quality bat. His only issue is that he cant play the short ball, but that can be targeted. I'm just praying that he sorts out his bowling now that's he injured and got some time off, and comes back for our series down under with a bang. The Aussies hate Bhaji so he should relish the challenge! Fletcher should work on developing Kumar into an allrounder. If he adds that to his repetoire he could be quite devastating. As to promoting him, I would disagree. I think he should be given a license to slog/smash similar to what sehwag has. The day we start teaching him about leaving balls and defending, will be the day he loses that potential.

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Graeme Swann: 'I'll never take playing for England for granted' ESPN Cricinfo http://es.pn/repcNQ

How had the England dressing room changed from your first experience of it in 1999 to your return eight or nine years later? It had changed massively. We are much more together now. Back then there was quite an insular, selfish feel to the team. There were cliques. It wasn't 11 guys playing for one another. It was six or seven guys playing that way and four or five playing for themselves. Look, I could be wrong. I was hardly in the dressing room back then. I was an outsider and I'm just giving you my impression. But I was quite surprised by it at the time. I came back in eight years later and it felt different. It's hard to put your finger on what has changed. Central contracts have made a big difference. So has the policy of continuity of selection, as guys aren't looking over their shoulder all the time. But one way or another, things feel much more united now. The sad thing is that many of those guys playing in 1999 would probably have performed really well if they had come into this set-up. They'd have found it a much better environment. I don't know if you recall, but I was asked to write your tour diary in 1999-2000. What would we have put in it? Ha! It would have been like Paul Merson's How Not to Be a Professional Footballer, wouldn't it? Yeah, we could have called it How Not to Be a Pro Cricketer. Murali has said England missed out on not selecting you in those intervening years. But had you changed, too, or was it just that the England environment had changed to welcome characters like you? Oh, there are myriad reasons. It was probably a bit of both. But I had improved by the time I was recalled. It's only natural that you evolve as you play more. I know I had improved as a bowler, but it's hard to say to what extent. I just felt I knew what I was doing more. But it's true that the environment had changed too. Was the turning point in your own career moving from Northants to Notts at the end of 2004? Yes, probably. It was a case of moving or giving up cricket. I wasn't enjoying it at all, and it had got to the stage where I was dreading going to work in the morning. I didn't have a plan to do anything else, but I couldn't have gone on like that. Then Mick Newell [Notts' director of cricket] came along. He just asked me to come to Trent Bridge and enjoy my cricket again. He said he wanted me to play with a smile on my face and be myself. As those were qualities that were actively discouraged at Northants at the time, it was a chance I leapt at. It was lovely. How do you feel about Northants now? I'm still very fond of Northants. I check on their results and I still want to see them do well. It's the club where I grew up and that I supported as a kid. I'm really happy to see they have started the season so well and I hope they go up. I know that will surprise a few of the people who gave me a hard time when I left, but hopefully they now understand there was a problem there and the reasons behind my decision. At the time, I seem to remember some of them calling me a quitter. Looking back, I still can't believe that Northants didn't win more trophies. They had some amazing players. I have a theory that young cricketers would benefit if, alongside going warm-weather training in South Africa or playing grade cricket in Australia, they spent a few weeks each winter working in a call centre or the club office so they realise how good they have it and to focus their minds on the alternatives. What do you think? I love it! It's a great idea. But don't let them work in the club offices; that's too soft. Young cricketers should be made to do National Service. Or labouring. Look, we have got the best job in the world. It's brilliant. We travel around the world, staying in great hotels, and we play cricket. Occasionally I hear someone moaning about another flight and I just remind them that we could be collecting bins or laying bricks on a cold morning in England. We're very lucky and we shouldn't forget that. Millions of people would kill to swap places with us. So, yes, I think giving young players a bit of that fear factor - showing them what they will be doing if they don't make it in cricket - wouldn't do any harm at all. It would give them a good kick up the ****. Have those years out of the international game given you a greater appreciation of your current position? Yeah, I think there might be something in that. I love touring. Absolutely love it. You're travelling around with your best mates - and that really is how it feels most of the time - and you're being paid to do something you love. Obviously you miss your family and there are times when it's tiring, but generally it's a fantastic life and I love every moment of it. Look, one winter I helped out in Ian Poulter's golf shop. It was the worst time of my life. I was bored out of my mind. So I'll never take playing for England for granted. "You wouldn't ask Usain Bolt why he doesn't run marathons, would you? I'm a traditional offspinner. I can bowl the carrom ball, but it's just not me. It's just not what I do. My action is so different when I do it that there's no point" So you won't be asking to miss the odd tour so you can have a break? No, no. I have missed enough international cricket. I want to play every game I can. In 2009, just before the Ashes, I knew I was going to get picked. It was all I had ever wanted. I was finally in the position that I wanted to be in. So I treat every game as if it's going to be my last. I play with a bit of joie de vivre, and that seems to work for me. I have been lucky with my coaches, too. If I bowl rubbish, Mushy [Mushtaq Ahmed, England's spin bowling coach] just says to me, "Don't worry, Mr Swanny. Everything is still okay. The sun will still shine tomorrow." It helps you relax and not get too intense about it all. Sometimes when someone misfields off your bowling your reaction is pretty ferocious. Does that ever cause a problem? When people misfield off my bowling, it makes me hate them. Really. I'm not joking. I want to do them and their family ill. I want to hunt them down and do them harm. That feeling doesn't last long, which is probably just as well, but it's there for a moment. It's funny, the three of us who were the most grumpy with England - me, Broady and Sid [Ryan Sidebottom] - were all from Nottinghamshire. I don't know why that should be. Look, we all make mistakes in the field. The best thing you can do is acknowledge it, say sorry and get on with it. There's never been any problem afterwards. We all care a lot and we all understand that passion to do well. During all those years when you weren't playing international cricket, did you ever think of learning to bowl the doosra or any other type of variation? You wouldn't ask Usain Bolt why he doesn't run marathons, would you? Well, it the same thing, really. I'm a traditional offspinner. I can bowl the carrom ball, but it's just not me. It's just not what I do. My action is so different when I do it that there's no point. I might as well tell the batsman what I'm going to bowl next. Had you given up on an England recall? I absolutely thought that any chance I had of playing for England had gone. And I had accepted it. I was happy with life. I was loving playing at Notts and England wasn't even something I thought about. It really didn't bother me as it didn't even seem like it was an option. I didn't even bother to check the touring parties when they were announced, as I just knew it wasn't anything to do with me. Well, I say that: I sometimes had a peek and thought, "He shouldn't be in there". But no, I wasn't thinking about England. A couple of years before your England return, you became a much higher-profile figure in the media. Was that a deliberate plot to gain some support in an attempt to convince the England selectors to pick you? No, not at all. You are right that it didn't harm my profile, but it wasn't about playing for England. It was more about thinking about life after cricket. I was just trying to open some doors for a future career in the media. You seem to relish that part of your job. Much more so than some of your team-mates. Yeah, that's probably right. I think I understand the media. I don't mind if they criticise - that's their job, isn't it? - and I'm not afraid of it. Look, I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy being the centre of attention. An interview like this, where I'm asked to talk about myself, well, that's fine: it's my favourite subject. I think some of the guys do fear the media, but there isn't much need. If you approach it as something that can be fun and you just relax and be yourself, then there really isn't a big problem. Your Twelfth Man diaries were a great success. Why have you stopped them? We haven't stopped them. They are for winter tours. We'll still be doing them, but we wanted to keep them special. Hopefully you'll see them again this winter. That's as long as Barney Douglas, who is the guy behind the camera, hasn't gone off to be a rock star by then. His band, The Sunbeat Revival, have just released their first EP. It's brilliant, euphoric stuff. It was Peter Moores who recalled you to the England side. Does he get the credit he deserves for his role as England coach? I think Andy Flower would be the first to praise him. And so he should be. Peter Moores hasn't had the credit he deserves. He's an exceptional coach and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was coaching an international team again sooner rather than later. He was brilliant when I was selected. He said, "We picked you to be you. We want to see the same cricketer we saw when you were playing county cricket: just be you." I feel really lucky to have had him as coach when I came back into the side. There has been quite a lot of nonsense talked about him, but as far as I'm concerned, he did a lot of good things and he's definitely part of the reason behind the England team's revival. You have opened the batting with some success in limited-overs cricket at county level. Would you like to do it at international level? Ha! I'd love to have a crack at it, yes. I'm not sure it would work so well at that level, but I'd love to have a go. I love batting. It's the best thing about cricket. I get quite bored in the field sometimes. You weren't interviewed for the captaincy. Why was that? I didn't put myself forward for the job. Captaincy just isn't on my agenda. I love my role in the side and I don't want to change it. I just want to bat and bowl for England and I don't think I could still be the light-hearted, piss-taking guy if I was in a position of authority. Presumably you are a big fan of the DRS? I am. I was a bit sceptical at first, as I wasn't sure about the technology, but now I think it's brilliant. It's meant that we are now giving guys out who should be given out. For years batsmen were getting away with it. What went wrong at the World Cup? Weariness was a factor, but we can't use that as an excuse. It's not as if we were not fit enough to get through a schedule like that, and we went there to try and win it. But if we are honest I think we would have to admit that the World Cup was our secondary aim of the winter. Our primary aim was to win the Ashes and we put a huge amount into that. Maybe mentally we were a bit jaded. But as I say, that's not an excuse. I thought we were exceptional in some games and very average in some others.
I think we has secured his future in the Sky Sports commentary box.

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Things to ponder/discuss for next test! Hey guys, these are just some of the things I think should be pondered. 1.) Do we really care if we lose this series? Personally, I am desperate for us to do well and come back in this test series. However, does it really matter if we do poorly because at the end of the day it is just 4 irrelevant tests which really mean nothing considering both Eng and Ind will be in the test championship in 2013 anyway. And besides we are rightfully the world cup winners and surely that means a lot more than a test series. 2.) Abhinav Mukund. For me, Mukund maybe just one of those people who has a superb first class record but will never be an international star. I know it is very early in his career but for some reason I just cannot see him doing much in the long term. Don't know why but just a thought. 3.) M.S. Dhoni's Captaincy. Dhoni has been an inspirational captain for us and there is no way that we would have come anywhere near we have without him at the helm. However, some of the decisions he has made in the 2 tests have been really poor. Most noticeably, putting in no 3rd man on the 3rd day of the 2nd test and also allowing Broad easy singles when he was batting with James Anderson. 4.) Virat Kohli's Inclusion. I think this is a positive move and I pleased that they are looking to give him another chance after the Windies tour. However, his dismissals in the Windies showed a poor technique against the short ball! So, i'm not sure who to play: Raina or Kohli. 5.) Edgbaston Pitch. Gotta little bit in, hopefully not flat, because we need a win. 6.) Don't worry about batting for now. It will come good , we all know it. Maybe a bit late but it will come good for sure next test. Laxman and Sachin don't fail 3 tests in a row, no matter what the bowling attack. 7.) Finally, 3rd Test. In my opinion, if Zak is back we have a chance. It is as simple as that. Viru gives us the firepower at the top that we so desperately need. What do you think guys?

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If Zak does not play Tomm. If zak does not paly tomm ,i think he should be called back to india and a replacemnet should be flown in may be Yadav,aaron,R.p singh .

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yeah defo get a replacement, but get someone a little bit different, maybe bit of pace or another left armer, something different. And tbh without him in the third test, no point bcoz were gonna struggle to get 20 wickets for less than 800 runs.

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Ojha or Mishra or Four Seamers. Personally, I would opt for Mishy in the next test for the reason that he is a wickettaker, and that's what we need or we not really gonna get 20 wickets cheaply anytime soon, and he can bat a bit to support fragile tail. Ojha is a great prospect but I don't want him trying to keep the runs down tbh. Four seamers would have been my choice but the amount of bowling that the likes of Praveen and Ishant have had means that we need a spinner. What u guys think?

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Yes, it's better to have a replacement on the tour unless it's guaranteed that he will play 4th test. I don't understand the obsession with Aaron. He hasn't done anything exceptional in FC cricket.
As he decent pace and can swing it,also i do not see guys like mithun,vinaykumar, who are proven failures should again be persisted.

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Depends on the type of pitch. As Wobbly posted in other thread that Edgbaston might help spinners also. I would like to see Mishra in such conditions. England don't play leg-spinners in much either.
Bell and Morgan do and if KP lasts more than ten minutes he crucifies them:--D

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Tomorrow's practice match is more important. Expect all players who are willing to find form and fitness to play in the match.
Hopefully Vibhash, but Duncan Fletcher is known to not take practice games seriously.

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