G_B_ Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I guess wait till the asia cup in spring 2012..... Link to comment
panther Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Did you read he was talking about ODI ? And that Indian side was not full strength. england is not a great odi team Link to comment
panther Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 the only reason india got whitewashed was because the english threatened them Link to comment
the don Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 the only reason india got whitewashed was because the english threatened them with what ?? Link to comment
Sehwag1830 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 the only reason india got whitewashed was because the english threatened them We have brownwashed England many times . No worries. Link to comment
panther Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 with what ?? they will stop giving indians visas Link to comment
G_B_ Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 thats england ODI series was bit of a joke. I cant remember a single game which is was not affected in some way by the rain. One match was practically a T20 match Link to comment
Asim Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 I have a recording of the 2003 match. Never fails to cheer me up on a gloomy day. :--) any online source of that? Link to comment
the don Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Team Match Won Lost Tied NR W/L Pakistan 31 23 7 0 1 3.28 Australia 25 18 6 0 1 3 India 31 19 9 2 1 2.11 South Africa 15 9 6 0 0 1.5 New Zealand 17 9 7 0 1 1.28 Sri Lanka 28 14 12 0 2 1.16 England 30 11 16 2 1 0.68 West Indies 25 9 15 0 1 0.6 Zimbabwe 17 6 11 0 0 0.54 Bangladesh 19 6 13 0 0 0.46 Match fixing scandels, teams internal management issues, retirements, un-retirements, bans, changings of captains & coaches, judicial enquiries, jail sentences to players BUT... Despite all controversies, Paksitani team is the most successful ODI team of 2011. Yes, we mostly played against less stronger teams like WI, Zim, BD but beating NZ in NZ, qualifying for WC Semi Final, beating SL and most importantly not loosing any ODI series are the highlights of the year... Few very important and consistant performances by Pakistani Players. In batting: Hafeez, Misbah, Umar Akmal & Younis Khan are so far among top 15 most runs scoring players... Similarly in bowling Afridi, Ajmal, Hafeez and Gul performed consistantly and so far among top 15 ODI wicket takers :two_thumbs_up: Congratulations to Pakistan, Pakistani Team and Pakistani Cricket Fans and Best Wishes for 2012... the world cup victory over australia was special pakistan was the last team to beat them in 99 and as fate would have it , it was pakistan that broke their 34 match winning streak , amazing .:hatsoff: Link to comment
Lord Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Nah bro thats wrong analysis of yours' date=' Yes I still remember how bad I felt after 96 QF and 2003 match, I still "feel" about those 2 matches but this time absolutly not like that... In fact IMO we all Paksitanis took it very positively and I rather enjoy remembering that, even qualifying for SF this time with was an acheivment having unfit shoaib. inzi and yousuf less middle order, banned fixing players etc etc...[b'] On the other hand 2003 team was probably the Best ODI team we ever had... udhar bhi bad luck se haare the kya? Link to comment
Magneto Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 any online source of that? Might be on youtube. Never checked up on that actually. Even on dailymotion. Link to comment
Asim Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 1999 was definitely better. shoaib was in good form. Saqlain was a very good spinner that time. Wasim waqar were better in 99 than 2003. Yes may be but I personally feel like 2003 was better because Yousuf, Inzi, Wasim, Shoaib, Saeed, Razzaq and Afridi all of them played in both 99 and 03 teams so nturally they must be more experienced players as compared to 99. and yes Saqlain was a great plus in 99 but similarly Waqar and Younis Khan were better addition in 03 team replacing Azhar and Ijaz of 99 teams... Link to comment
JeffThommo_fan Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 But, the way the Pakistan clean sweeped Sri-Lanka recently was absolutely remarkable. Sri-Lanka gave so much fight to England in England recently. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 But' date=' the way the[b'] Pakistan clean sweeped Sri-Lanka recently was absolutely remarkable. Sri-Lanka gave so much fight to England in England recently. no they didnt Link to comment
Asim Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 udhar bhi bad luck se haare the kya? Nah... in 1st inng we did our best to score 270+ and that score made us too confident to win and in 2nd inng Waqar taking Sehwag & Ganguly in 2 consecutive balls moment was just like WE DID IT But the effort India did after that was almost unbelievable, I consider it THE BEST chase india made vs Pak of my lifetime... I mean Shoaib+Wasim+Waqar at peak of their career and putting everything they had but still india managed to chase it comfortably, got to admire... Link to comment
the don Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Yes may be but I personally feel like 2003 was better because Yousuf, Inzi, Wasim, Shoaib, Saeed, Razzaq and Afridi all of them played in both 99 and 03 teams so nturally they must be more experienced players as compared to 99. and yes Saqlain was a great plus in 99 but similarly Waqar and Younis Khan were better addition in 03 team replacing Azhar and Ijaz of 99 teams... that team was only good on paper , there was clear infighting amongst the team mates , waqar was the worst choice as skipper at the time , that whole world cup campaign was a massive failure , so no surprises that they lost to india because by the time the indian match happened the wc campaign was well and truly over , the embarrassing defeat to england just sealed the deal . on the other hand there was something about the 96 and 99 teams, that final loss to australia in 99 was cruel:facepalm: Link to comment
the don Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 no they didnt yes it was a format clean sweep Link to comment
Sehwag1830 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 that team was only good on paper , there was clear infighting amongst the team mates , waqar was the worst choice as skipper at the time , that whole world cup campaign was a massive failure ,:hysterical: so no surprises that they lost to india because by the time the indian match happened the wc campaign was well and truly over:hysterical: , the embarrassing defeat to england just sealed the deal . on the other hand there was something about the 96 and 99 teams, that final loss to australia in 99 was cruel:facepalm: No . You had chance till last match against ZIM. Link to comment
the don Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 No . You had chance till last match against ZIM. in theory yes , but in reality the day wikki was appointed captain for the tournament our chances vanished and than that awful england game and ofcourse the blinder from sachin. Link to comment
zen Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Team Match Won Lost Tied NR W/L Pakistan 31 23 7 0 1 3.28 Australia 25 18 6 0 1 3 India 31 19 9 2 1 2.11 South Africa 15 9 6 0 0 1.5 New Zealand 17 9 7 0 1 1.28 Sri Lanka 28 14 12 0 2 1.16 England 30 11 16 2 1 0.68 West Indies 25 9 15 0 1 0.6 Zimbabwe 17 6 11 0 0 0.54 Bangladesh 19 6 13 0 0 0.46 Match fixing scandels, teams internal management issues, retirements, un-retirements, bans, changings of captains & coaches, judicial enquiries, jail sentences to players BUT... Despite all controversies, Paksitani team is the most successful ODI team of 2011. Yes, we mostly played against less stronger teams like WI, Zim, BD but beating NZ in NZ, qualifying for WC Semi Final, beating SL and most importantly not loosing any ODI series are the highlights of the year... Few very important and consistant performances by Pakistani Players. In batting: Hafeez, Misbah, Umar Akmal & Younis Khan are so far among top 15 most runs scoring players... Similarly in bowling Afridi, Ajmal, Hafeez and Gul performed consistantly and so far among top 15 ODI wicket takers :two_thumbs_up: Congratulations to Pakistan, Pakistani Team and Pakistani Cricket Fans and Best Wishes for 2012... Why are you congratulating the test team? .... And Pak fans had more to cry than laugh in 2011 like the controversies surrounding match fixing (w/ many pak fans wanting the bowlers to play despite the fixing), customary loss to Ind, etc. So I don't know if the table you posted will go in healing those 'wounds' Anyways, but if the above table floats your boat, congratulations to Pak (ODI) team Link to comment
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