For how Long can MSD be the captain due to the TINA factor?

[saneindian]

TINA or no TINA, MSD should be sacked from captaincy. Someone has to be made accountable for this shameless decline in the team and it has to start with a skipper who has hogged all the credit so far for the successes of the team. Rahane, Rohit, Kohli and Saha- all 4 of them should play the next test which means Sehwag, VVS and MSD sitting out.

[Old guy]

epic thread lmfao

[Old guy]

plz stick it along with match threads :hysterical:

[khanjee]

No Dhoni said recently, that they have been competitive both in eng and in aus...he said it doesn't matter if you win or lose as long as you compete. He will say the same again..

[NeutralCat]

Post-match presentation Dhoni: "We didn't perform well up till now. Warner played really well, in that one session he took the game away from us. The failure in the batting definitely hurt us." Dhoni backs the seniors by saying "Class is always there, they have the experience, its just in two back-to-back series that we have failed." "What has happened, the last couple of series, we have not adapted well to the conditions quickly enough. Winning in Adelaide is the only motivation we have now, the bowlers have shown they can take wickets, we need to put the runs on the board."

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[Needforspeed]

^^ WTF?

[surajmal]

its a code. Time to get my Beautiful Mind mode on.

[indiefan]

"What has happened, the last couple of series, we have not adapted well to the conditions quickly enough. Winning in Adelaide is the only motivation we have now, the bowlers have shown they can take wickets, we need to put the runs on the board."

And what has the team done to adapt to the conditions? Go-karting?:hmmm:

[saneindian]

BUMP Dhoni's time as captain is up. The longer selectors take to replace him, the worse it will get for us. Too many tactical errors, too much of rigidity in his approach, team looking a divided house. Not sure how that helps us at a time when we are in the transition phase and have some youngsters in the side. Both the test and ODI teams need a new leader. Ask MSD to step down or else sack him from captaincy and rebuild the team around a new captain.

[Sid]

^Completely agree with you,his shelf life as a captain is over.He did great things for India but its time to change now.

[Sooda]

This has been rehashed many a time, but what exactly does Jadeja now bring. Its disappointing after a good spell in ODIs before this tour and a good T20 match....is it the pitches that he is cannot adjust both bowling and batting on? Raina has been bowling well enough for Jadeja to be dropped and another batsman in. Irfan did not have a good game today either after a good initial couple of overs. There is only so much the skipper can do when his batsmen are folding like ninepins. Seems to have held the fort well in the field

[Number]

Should step down by himself - Not happening. Should be asked to step down - Not happening.

[saneindian]

This has been rehashed many a time, but what exactly does Jadeja now bring. Its disappointing after a good spell in ODIs before this tour and a good T20 match....is it the pitches that he is cannot adjust both bowling and batting on? Raina has been bowling well enough for Jadeja to be dropped and another batsman in. Irfan did not have a good game today either after a good initial couple of overs. There is only so much the skipper can do when his batsmen are folding like ninepins. Seems to have held the fort well in the field

And who gives Jadeja a guaranteed spot in the team? MSD Who decides Jadeja should bat ahead of Irfan and Ashwin? MSD Who ensures that everytime a team is 100/4, the field is spread and part timers bowl? MSD Who decides Raina continues to bat higher than MSD despite repeated failures? MSD As I said, he has lost his mojo. Whats the point in letting him lead the side on Asian pitches where we know we will do well. Much rather get in a new captain and let him rebuild the team.

[CG]

And who gives Jadeja a guaranteed spot in the team? MSD Who decides Jadeja should bat ahead of Irfan and Ashwin? MSD Who ensures that everytime a team is 100/4, the field is spread and part timers bowl? MSD Who decides Raina continues to bat higher than MSD despite repeated failures? MSD As I said, he has lost his mojo. Whats the point in letting him lead the side on Asian pitches where we know we will do well. Much rather get in a new captain and let him rebuild the team.

Sane Bhai Finally .

[IKnowU]

What about Ashwin? What has he done? Not a word about him from all these CSK lovers.

[IKnowU]

Dhoni is the best captain. Give him shiiiteeee players, he will obviously perform shiitee. I cant think of any captain that can handle the current bunch of players we have better then Dhoni himself atm. We starting to look like the olden days, as soon as we dont start performing.......we all start a riot asking for the scalps of the coach and captain. Never the players themselves who arent performing.

[CG]

Dhoni is the best captain. Give him shiiiteeee players, he will obviously perform shiitee. I cant think of any captain that can handle the current bunch of players we have better then Dhoni himself atm. We starting to look like the olden days, as soon as we dont start performing.......we all start a riot asking for the scalps of the coach and captain. Never the players themselves who arent performing.

Knock Knock If you select the same players who are not performing over and over and over again what do you expect.Captain gets the credit for victories and should also take the blame for defeat.

[IKnowU]

Knock Knock If you select the same players who are not performing over and over and over again what do you expect.

So you will be happy with him as captain if he dropped the so called "non performing players" and played the reserves and still lost? I know you will say we could have given them a shot and may have played out well. But what does that achieve? These players were picked in the first place hoping to perform in this country. If they cant do that, so be it. But finding some relief in seeing reserves performing is nothing to write home about. I think we need to look at the bigger picture, not just some desperate last minute tweaks and moves in the team to salvage something.

[CG]

So you will be happy with him as captain if he dropped the so called "non performing players" and played the reserves and still lost? I know you will say we could have given them a shot and may have played out well. But what does that achieve? These players were picked in the first place hoping to perform in this country. If they cant do that, so be it. But finding some relief in seeing reserves performing is nothing to write home about. I think we need to look at the bigger picture, not just some desperate last minute tweaks and moves in the team to salvage something.

Its not some charity match we are playing,If somebody does not perform he needs to be dropped and next man gets his chance. After 2 white washes only bigger picture is to have a new leader with new ideas,Odis series come and go,But the ream problem is test cricket.