Squad of England and India in the Lords test

[Chandan]

Englands squad has just been announced: Michael Vaughan, Andrew Strauss, Alastair Cook, Kevin Pietersen, Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Matt Prior, Ryan Sidebottom, Monty Panesar, Matthew Hoggard, Stephen Harmison, James Anderson, Stuart Broad Out of these the first 10 names are assured. The only questionmark is on Harmison, who is doubtful for the Lords test and Broad or Anderson can come for him.

[Chandan]

Whereas quite a number of places are a questionmark for India. Karthik ? Dravid Sachin Ganguly Laxman ? Kumble Zaheer Sree ? So, what are your opinions?

[yoda]

Karthik failure-1 Dravid Sachin Ganguly Laxman failure-2 Kumble Zaheer Sree won't-matter 1

[The Outsider]

Don't think there are any question marks after Dhoni's innings yesterday. Jaffer, Dhoni, and RP Singh will play to fill up your question marks.

[King]

There was never any doubt as for the 10 men for the team is concerned. I guess it was the 4th bowler that was supposed to be chosen based on the last couple of tour games. I guess RPS has come through while Ishant and Powar are sidelined for the first test. We will see this team : Karthik Jaffer Dravid Sachin Ganguly Laxman Dhoni Kumble Zaheer Sree RPS Most are pretty much automatic choices anyways.

[Ram]

Ravi , you missed out Dhoni. Was that accidental or intentional ?

[King]

Ravi ' date=' you missed out Dhoni. Was that accidental or intentional ?[/quote'] Accidental, added now.

[Chandan]

I also think that the team that you've mentioned will be the playing XI for the Lords test. And if you compare this team with England's XI, it is inferior on many departments. So England team is clearly the better team, even if we base it just on current form. India has to fight tooth and nail for the series!

[King Tendulkar]

There was never any doubt as for the 10 men for the team is concerned. I guess it was the 4th bowler that was supposed to be chosen based on the last couple of tour games. I guess RPS has come through while Ishant and Powar are sidelined for the first test. We will see this team : Karthik Jaffer Dravid Sachin Ganguly Laxman Dhoni Kumble Zaheer Sree RPS Most are pretty much automatic choices anyways.

This will be 100% the team. Not team I would choose but certainly will be starting 11 for Thursday. Good enough to win :haha:

[King]

I also think that the team that you've mentioned will be the playing XI for the Lords test. And if you compare this team with England's XI, it is inferior on many departments. So England team is clearly the better team, even if we base it just on current form. India has to fight tooth and nail for the series!

Whenever India visits overseas whatever their team composition they will start as underdogs. On paper India certainly is a way better team. No need to mention the batting part but the bowling part isn't really bad compared to England. One to one comparison of bowling attack : Hoggard -- Zaheer (Hoggard is certainly way better) Sidebottom - Sreesanth (Sreesanth is more potent i.e bowling wise IMO) S.Borad - RPS (Nothing to choose between them irrespective of the 5fer Broad took. In fact RPS is way experienced) Monty vs Anil Kumble (No comparison here we all know the answer)

[Chandan]

I'm talking about the current form of both set of players. Everyone is inform in England's team. Indian openers: sure will come cropper again new ball whereas England openers: Cook is in terrific form and Strauss was in form in the last inning that he played. #3 : India is better #4: Can't say, Pietersen can be really dangerous. #5: Collingwood is again in great nick compared to Ganguly's form #6: Bell hit few very good knocks vs WI, so he is in form too #7: Prior is much better than Dhoni in these conditions and is in great form So how can you say that India is better in batting? In records they might be, but it is the current form which will be crucial here.

[granderBharata]

Chandan, both teams have pathetic bolwing attacks.England have one of the most inexpirienced attacks (with only hoggard being some kinda vetran)Harmison's is out of the first test.Leaving (monty 17 tests, sidebottom 4 tests and broad(will play first) to bowl. Out of the pacers all are swing bowlers.Lacks varaity. (A bowling unit of Flintoff Harmison, hoggard and monty would be strong) On the other hand india have (z khan 43 tests Rp singh 4 tests sreesnath 8 tests along with kumble(115) tests.) Not a great diff between the two attacks in terms of averages current form etc. Both look impotent.(India should have had ajit on tour atleast way better at this moment than ishant, Bose i give benifit of doubt) Batting wise, hmm I think the kinda even as well. With sachin dravid kartick and laxman(played very well v sussex) looking in good touch. I see the test matches have draw written all over them. Atleast the first test at lords.

[Chandan]

Remember how Hoggard trobled India on a hot and humid day at Bombay last year, that too bowling at 125kph speed?? He is a dangerous bowler. Sidebottom was awesome vs WI. Broad bowled well against Indians here at Chelmsford. And we know how well Monty has bowled this year as well as even last year vs Indians. So we'll underestimate this attack at our own peril. It is indeed worse than the regular attack of England, but it is not a bad bowling line-up, mind you. Certainly not worse than India.

[King Tendulkar]

Lets see how good englands batting is when oppo has 500 + on the board!

[The Outsider]

The English batting line up is very strong and certainly in better form than the Indians. All of them got runs against WI and even when Pietersen failed the others in the middle order took up the challenge to mount good totals.

[Chandan]

So you expect India to pile on 500 runs, even if the openers and wicket-keeper score next to nothing? You think your MO is made up of Supermen?

[Predator_05]

Whenever India visits overseas whatever their team composition they will start as underdogs. On paper India certainly is a way better team. No need to mention the batting part but the bowling part isn't really bad compared to England. One to one comparison of bowling attack : Hoggard -- Zaheer (Hoggard is certainly way better) Sidebottom - Sreesanth (Sreesanth is more potent i.e bowling wise IMO) S.Borad - RPS (Nothing to choose between them irrespective of the 5fer Broad took. In fact RPS is way experienced) Monty vs Anil Kumble (No comparison here we all know the answer)

Matches aren't won on paper. Head to head, India may have a better bowling attack but these English bowlers are still good enough to take 20 wickets against a fragile Indian batting lineup.

[Chandan]

I agree with Predator!

[King Tendulkar]

We have a tremondous batting line up. Dravid will do a chanderpaul! Unlike the windies we have class acts to back him up. Yes in 1 or 2 of the tests we will pile up 500+. I repeat lets see how good this eng batting is when we have a massive total on the board.

[Predator_05]

I repeat lets see how good this eng batting is when we have a massive total on the board.

Replace the "when" with an "if" How did India's "tremendous" batting lineup do when England toured Mumbai last year, dsr ? 100 all out ? I don't trust the Indian batting lineup at all...they can pile up 500 one match, and 100 in the next.