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Lets not be mean guys. Out of respect for a true cricket lover like wobblydoggy I am not laughing. Now if Special K was around it would be a different thing. Anyway, it seems to be a bad trend in test cricket when teams can win only in home or home-like conditions. How good they look when they are winning and how clueless when losing - all based on conditions.
Don't know when you're around here when he was dishing it out non-stop during the England tour.

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Most of the anger and joy not due to fans like special K who we know only for few weeks. But the guys like Botham' date=' Hussain, Vaughan.. are the reason why so much hate. Typical English fans are hilarious when their team lose everything. Their sarcastic criticism about England side is fun to read.[/quote'] I have always hated them..Loved thrashing they used to get against Aussies.. Till today I don't have any favorite English cricket..don't know why..I even had favorite Pakistan cricketers..BUt England No.. I hate Andy Flower to the core..what a ****. They struggled to put a team together for best part of 20 years , even though they had great county cricket structure. We were number 1 for long time, and we worked hard for it. Lets see how long can they hang on to Number 1 spot.

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Mr Botham is almost choking. Says Morgan has no future in tests' date=' questioned Strauss' lack of runs and asked Broad and Prior to be sent up the order.[/quote'] I agree with him. Morgan is not coping. And with such a low total to chase we should have promoted up the order for the sloggers

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I wonder what the excuses would be from Vaughan, Botham, Atherton and company :hmmm: I guess it was not a "proper" cricket pitch as it didn't help fast bowlers as all "good" pitches should. I am sure it was a "doctored" pitch and that's why Pakistan had spinners on from the very beginning and played with 3 spinners.

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Ok you are number 1 ....:two_thumbs_up: :hysterical: this is a reality check for you. The SA A team is now number 2 eventhough rankings don't say it just yet. Be patient (after whitewash from SL you'll get there)
We will see. I am hoping that England get rid of morgan and Pietersen and bring over Carberry and promote Ravi It wont happen, but that is what I would like to see

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:giggle: : Greatest Teams As great as the sum of their parts George Dobell picks his top five teams in the history of Test cricket George Dobell November 3, 2011 England, 2009-2011 A controversial choice, perhaps (and only just edging the England side of 1911-12), but the statistics of England's recent success are compelling. England have won eight (and drawn one) of their last nine series and 20 of their last 31 Tests. Perhaps even more impressively, 10 of those victories have been by innings margins. Four of England's batsmen are rated in the top ten and five of their bowlers are in the top 11 of the Test rankings. They have a well-balanced bowling attack that offers pace, bounce, swing and spin and a strong batting line-up including several men - Pietersen, Cook, Strauss and Bell - who all look set to surpass the current English record of 22 Test centuries. Not only that, but they have inflicted crushing defeats upon India, Australia and Sri Lanka who have, in recent times, all been vying for top positions in the ICC Test rankings. No team has ever gone to Australia and inflicted three innings defeats in a series, while the Indian team defeated 4-0 in the summer of 2011 contained several players of the highest class - Tendulkar, Dravid, Dhoni and Laxman among them. Uniquely among all the teams in this list, they key man in the England set-up is not actually a player. It is the coach, Andy Flower. Inheriting an under-performing, divided squad, he has instilled a work ethic and sense of purpose that has taken the side to the top of the world rankings. http://www.espncricinfo.com/greatestteams/content/story/538999.html

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Oh was it? I joined the forum much later. OK then lets give it to him good. :--D
Yep I was giving it to you big time last summer:hysterical: Mind you you cannot say much, you just lost pathetically to the Aus side we beat 3-1:--D

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frankly speaking, we are in no position to laugh at any other team. great reality check for them though. but we know how that feels eh?
Yes we are. We were ranked #1 for nearly 2 years and won the World Cup. Just because we sucked in 2 series doesn't mean we can't pay the folks back in the same coin

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I wonder what the excuses would be from Vaughan, Botham, Atherton and company :hmmm: I guess it was not a "proper" cricket pitch as it didn't help fast bowlers as all "good" pitches should. I am sure it was a "doctored" pitch and that's why Pakistan had spinners on from the very beginning and played with 3 spinners.
Cries of doctored pitches will surface when they tour SL and India.

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:giggle: : Greatest Teams As great as the sum of their parts George Dobell picks his top five teams in the history of Test cricket George Dobell November 3, 2011 England, 2009-2011 A controversial choice, perhaps (and only just edging the England side of 1911-12), but the statistics of England's recent success are compelling. England have won eight (and drawn one) of their last nine series and 20 of their last 31 Tests. Perhaps even more impressively, 10 of those victories have been by innings margins. Four of England's batsmen are rated in the top ten and five of their bowlers are in the top 11 of the Test rankings. They have a well-balanced bowling attack that offers pace, bounce, swing and spin and a strong batting line-up including several men - Pietersen, Cook, Strauss and Bell - who all look set to surpass the current English record of 22 Test centuries. Not only that, but they have inflicted crushing defeats upon India, Australia and Sri Lanka who have, in recent times, all been vying for top positions in the ICC Test rankings. No team has ever gone to Australia and inflicted three innings defeats in a series, while the Indian team defeated 4-0 in the summer of 2011 contained several players of the highest class - Tendulkar, Dravid, Dhoni and Laxman among them. Uniquely among all the teams in this list, they key man in the England set-up is not actually a player. It is the coach, Andy Flower. Inheriting an under-performing, divided squad, he has instilled a work ethic and sense of purpose that has taken the side to the top of the world rankings. http://www.espncricinfo.com/greatestteams/content/story/538999.html
:cantstop::cantstop: This is what I call going over the top :hysterical::hysterical: Can't play spin to save their lives and are the "greatest" side :hysterical:

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VaughanCricket Michael Vaughan Like a dull morning down south in Abu today... Perfect for England... All over by tea is my shout.. #englandwin 7 hours ago
:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Vaughan must be close to slitting his wrists :giggle:

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The same Paki team wasn't able to beat WI in WI whereas India won the series. They are winning coz they are playing on turning tracks with 3 spinners and your team can't do jack shyte against spinners. India would wipe the floor with the likes of Rehman and Hafeez.
Naah it wasn't the same team. And the form Indian team is in right now, Pak could easily wipe the floor against the likes of Indian team. :winky:

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Naah it wasn't the same team. And the form Indian team is in right now' date=' Pak could easily wipe the floor against the likes of Indian team. :winky:[/quote'] You wish :winky: India wouldn't find it too difficult facing the spinners on a track like the one they are playing on. I can see our Maharathis jumping over each other to bat in those conditions.

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:giggle: : Greatest Teams As great as the sum of their parts George Dobell picks his top five teams in the history of Test cricket George Dobell November 3, 2011 England, 2009-2011 A controversial choice, perhaps (and only just edging the England side of 1911-12), but the statistics of England's recent success are compelling. England have won eight (and drawn one) of their last nine series and 20 of their last 31 Tests. Perhaps even more impressively, 10 of those victories have been by innings margins. Four of England's batsmen are rated in the top ten and five of their bowlers are in the top 11 of the Test rankings. They have a well-balanced bowling attack that offers pace, bounce, swing and spin and a strong batting line-up including several men - Pietersen, Cook, Strauss and Bell - who all look set to surpass the current English record of 22 Test centuries. Not only that, but they have inflicted crushing defeats upon India, Australia and Sri Lanka who have, in recent times, all been vying for top positions in the ICC Test rankings. No team has ever gone to Australia and inflicted three innings defeats in a series, while the Indian team defeated 4-0 in the summer of 2011 contained several players of the highest class - Tendulkar, Dravid, Dhoni and Laxman among them. Uniquely among all the teams in this list, they key man in the England set-up is not actually a player. It is the coach, Andy Flower. Inheriting an under-performing, divided squad, he has instilled a work ethic and sense of purpose that has taken the side to the top of the world rankings. http://www.espncricinfo.com/greatestteams/content/story/538999.html
Lol at George Dobell

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Naah it wasn't the same team. And the form Indian team is in right now' date=' Pak could easily wipe the floor against the likes of Indian team. :winky:[/quote'] Lol at "it wasn't the same team", no matter how much you spin it, you guys couldn't win in the West Indies and India did. And keep dreaming that you will wipe the floor with India in Asian conditions.

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I dont want Indians in my side bloody chokers:winky: I would like to have a few more SA's though:winky:
Without the Indian, the Pakis would have scored 400 in their 2nd innings. :winky:

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loll i agree pakistn would beat our current team full of passengers and players who are like what 50 years old>? but point is we are not playing so what will u guys get by discussing ? just another troll war :P

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loll i agree pakistn would beat our current team full of passengers and players who are like what 50 years old>? but point is we are not playing so what will u guys get by discussing ? just another troll war :P
Agreed. Our younger players are very talented. Too close to call.

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Without the Indian' date=' the Pakis would have scored 400 in their 2nd innings. :winky:[/quote'] Are I see, so it is ok for you to poach Panesar because he is of Indian descent, but we cannot have Trott?:--D

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Agreed. Our younger players are very talented. Too close to call.
yep let our new team develop.. wearen ot playing pakistan till the time we play them.. new players would ve established themselves then we will discuss :winky:

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Lol at "it wasn't the same team"' date=' no matter how much you spin it, you guys couldn't win in the West Indies and India did. And keep dreaming that you will wipe the floor with India in Asian conditions.[/quote'] Your lot struggled against the likes of Shaun Udal on South Asian pitches. Indian team is good against spin no doubt, but not invincible. Against this Pak spin attack...your players can easily struggle big.

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The spin twins would be tamed once they come up against Sehwag, who anyways loves batting against Pakistan. In fact, there would be no better dose to re-energise our team than a series vs Pakistan.

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Your lot struggled against the likes of Shaun Udal on South Asian pitches. Indian team is good against spin no doubt' date=' but not invincible. Against this Pak spin attack...your players can easily struggle big.[/quote'] Shaun Udal was a one-off... he got wkts when the match was already lost. Even Boje managed a 5 wkt haul in India :giggle: Other than Ajmal I don't see these bowlers a threat and I trust Indian batsmen to figure out Ajmal as well. Plus Ojha, Ashwin and co. wouldn't exactly be non-threatening on these tracks either. If Monty can take wkts against you I trust Ojha and co. to spin webs around Paki batsmen :--D

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The spin twins would be tamed once they come up against Sehwag, who anyways loves batting against Pakistan. In fact, there would be no better dose to re-energise our team than a series vs Pakistan.
lol...the tides have turned bud. :--D

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Guys stop derailing this thread for India vs Pak debate. This is for laughing at the English..so please do that.
Yeah! Laugh at me you bastids:--D Mind you I watched the last few overs of Aus - India this morning and Kholis run out yesterday:giggle:

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