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Technique of batsman in the video : Is it exquisite or not ?

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Technique of batsman in the video : Is it exquisite or not ?  

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vvvslaxman Grand Master

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Just like your absolutely nonsensical ranking of batsmen from 80 yrs ago as the greatest of "ALL Times". :cantstop:
If you agree Ramakant achrekar >> Tendulkar then i agree to your theory. Why did he need a coach if he is that good? It is like you and i go and learn theory of relativity in school and say we are better than Einstein.
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From Cricinfo- I don't know about his status as player, but surely among middle aged players, his records are untouchable. He surely would have had very great technique which didn't need reflexes to be fast. Just to put things in perspective, there has been just one century scored by players past age of 40 in last 22 years. (Gooch hammering 210 against lowly NZ attack)
Hobbs had both technique and reflexes. One of his innings that oft gets mentions is the one played in 4th innings in Melbourne 1928. It was a "sticky" wicket (uncovered wicket) where deliveries from spinners would jump higher than a pace bowler from good length. You cant do that against quality spinners like Clarrie Grimette unless you have both technique and reflexes. This innings of Hobbs is one of those that Bradman spoke very highly of. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62564.html By the by in keeping with the theme of this thread the game mentioned above had some all time greats - Woodfull, Richardson, Ryder, Bradman, Oldfield, Grimett from Australia and Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond, Larwood, Jardine, Chapman, Tate etc from England.
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Hobbs had both technique and reflexes. One of his innings that oft gets mentions is the one played in 4th innings in Melbourne 1928. It was a "sticky" wicket (uncovered wicket) where deliveries from spinners would jump higher than a pace bowler from good length. You cant do that against quality spinners like Clarrie Grimette unless you have both technique and reflexes. This innings of Hobbs is one of those that Bradman spoke very highly of. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62564.html By the by in keeping with the theme of this thread the game mentioned above had some all time greats - Woodfull, Richardson, Ryder, Bradman, Oldfield, Grimett from Australia and Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond, Larwood, Jardine, Chapman, Tate etc from England.
we all know how sachin plays on a square turner against good spin. :cantstop:
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vvvslaxman Grand Master

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Except that Achrekar was wise enough to not change Tendulkars Technique ... his technique is a very natural one. And just so you know Coaches existed in Bradmans time too.
But Bradman is a self-taught cricketer. He didn't need any coach. All modern day cricketers have the benefit of coach, bowling machines, net practice, heavy bats, protective gears, true pitches.. Everything has come a long way.
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These days its easy to make out the technical deficiency in a batsman ... a batsman who is unstoppable in a series can be found wanting in the next one.. as the next team is prepared with all the visuals and analyst can point out easily the flaws. The bowlers are far more prepared to counter the batsman's.. therefore u can easy single out the "flash in the pan" batsman with those who are technically equipped to counter any sort of attacks. Therefore these days a batsman needs to constantly brush up his technique to counter the flaws or otherwise be prepared to be a walking wicket.. That's the reason "flash in the pan" players like Sadgopan Ramesh etc can be seen only for a couple of seasons and some1 like RD , SRT plays for 15+ years.

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These days its easy to make out the technical deficiency in a batsman ... a batsman who is unstoppable in a series can be found wanting in the next one.. as the next team is prepared with all the visuals and analyst can point out easily the flaws. The bowlers are far more prepared to counter the batsman's.. therefore u can easy single out the "flash in the pan" batsman with those who are technically equipped to counter any sort of attacks. Therefore these days a batsman needs to constantly brush up his technique to counter the flaws or otherwise be prepared to be a walking wicket.. That's the reason "flash in the pan" players like Sadgopan Ramesh etc can be seen only for a couple of seasons and some1 like RD , SRT plays for 15+ years.
Same way you can learn about bowlers as well. Remember Mendis.. India was absolutely shy** against him. From god to disciple. Then in a couple of series they started reading him well.
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Not sunny
Completely agree. 100% Since this thread is about taking potshots at great, let it be said that atleast some of us here have been lucky enough to have seen Sunny, Richards, Miandad, Border bat just as well as Sehwag, Sachin and Dravid. If Sehwag played in 80s he would be solidly effed. Plain and simple. His footwork tends to remind me of the way Amarnath played in 1983-84 series against West Indies, rooted in crease with little footwork. Jimmy ended up with what was then called phone number kind of runs, 1 run in 5 innings or so, Sehwag would have fared little different. Having a Marshall or Holding steaming in very different to seeing a Kyle Mills or Ben Hilfenhaus. Steyn is different story of course. Same with Akram. Both RD and SRT had their moments against Wasim, but never dominated him. Sunny on the other hand was never dismissed by him I think. Akram maintains Sunny as the hardest man to dismiss. Its conjecture of course but had Sunny played in this era he would have averaged atleast 5-10 runs more. He could play both Ambrose and Mcgrath all day long and keep leaving the off stump deliveries till they quit lol. And of course Akram never dismissed him. So which other quality bowler remains really? Sunny >> SRT & RD.
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vvvslaxman Grand Master

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Why don't you tell me how Tendulkar was the only one of the 1000s of aspiring cricketers that take coaching from Achrekar to truly benefit from the coaching ? If coaches make so much of a difference why didn't his coaching benefit any of those 1000s of students ?
That only proves Tendulkar is better than the other players who were coached by Achrekar. Nothing else. Fact is he needed coaching.
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