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Pick the one who is in better domestic form. One warm up match vs England would not tell you anything different that is not already known about these batsmen especially on home pitches. I liked how England were given three Hyderabad B teams to play their warm ups against when they landed here 10-12 days before the ODI series last year. They promptly thrashed the Hyd side but were under prepared for the real test. Let's repeat that dose for the test tour. Also, when we went to England how many warm ups did we have vs English Lions or even against first choice 11s of the counties we played against? (different matter that we struggled even against the County B teams).
Anderson, Finn, Broad, Swann. This attack is only second to SA even on Indian pitches, may be equal to SA because of Swann.

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Sorry for missing Finn thought u were talking only about broad but Finn these days is 90-92 mph max bowler
Clocked 155 in the recent T20 world cup. Was the fastest bowler in the tournament. And you know that ball which cleaned up Raina in the ODI series? That ball was 96 MPH....

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Unfortunately Kohli aside I don't think India's batting will put up big totals against England. Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gambhir in horrible form. Pujara being relatively inexperienced, Rahane also and Rohit Sharma being positively ****. That leaves Dhoni whos technique leaves much to be desired and Virat Kohli. As for bowling well, we'll have to see if Broad and Anderson can reproduce their UAE figures. If they do, as well as the gun that is called Steven Finn then India have a real problem on their hands. Plus you have Swann who is always a threat on turners. Cook > Sehwag Cook is one of the worlds best batsman and will go on to do great things. Sehwag has done great things but it looks like his days are numbering, simply put he's been a bit cack of late. Compton vs Rahane. Nobody knows. Neither have played a test match, both have been impressive in first class cricket. Compton is a bit of a late bloomer, much like Jonathan Trott whilst Rahane is still young and has done well in ODI cricket. Trott > Pujara It's not really fair on Pujara, given Trott is one of the best no.3's out there. probably the 2nd best in the world behind Hashim Amla. Pujara however has made a very good start to his test career. KP > Out of form Sachin. KP on form will simply blow anyone away, regardless of who you are. Whether it be Glenn Mcgrath on seaming wickets, Muralitharan on rank turners, Dale Steyn on swinging pitches or Shane Warne. He will kill you when he's on song. Sachin is the best batsman of the modern era. Unfortunately he's getting on a bit and his form in the past 2 years has been nothing short of horrendous. Bell < Kohli Bell is a very good player of spin but Kohli is special. He will be one of the best batsman in the world in a few years if not already. When the pressure is off, Bell is the reincarnation of Donald Bradman. When the pressure is strong, he should change his nationality to South African. In fact, given this England side, it surprises me that out of everyone he's one of the few who isn't a saffer. Bairstow = Rohit Sharma. Bairstow somehow managed to play Steyn + Philander really well but can't seem to play somebody like Rampaul. I don't know. Rohit Sharma is probably the best player in the world if the scorecard wasn't recorded and there was nobody watching. Shame thats not going to be the case. Prior > Dhoni As good as Dhoni has been for the past year, Prior is by far and away the best test wicketkeeper batsman and number 7 in the world. How many times have England been 120-5 and then Prior comes in and whacks a run a ball century? He's one of my favourite players. Bowling wise: Swann = Ashwin. Here's an interesting one. Swann's offbreaks delivery is in my opinion the best in the world. His flight, accuracy, turn and bounce is better than anyone's since Murali. However his bowling is one dimensional. He can only bowl that plus the occasional one which speeds up and goes straight on. Ashwin can bowl the Carrom ball which makes him deadly, though his offbreaks are not as good. Also Ashwin is bowling on pitches he is familiar with whilst for some reason Swann doesn't perform aswell on turners as he does in England when the ball doesn't turn, which is somewhat remarkable. Swann as a conventional spinner is the best in the world but due to the lack of a Doosra he falls behind Ajmal as an overall spinner. Anderson > Zaheer Khan. Anderson has bowled almost godlike for the past two years and his stats are identical to Steyn's over the past two years. Zaheer was also bowling very well but his age and body has seemingly caught up with him. Zaheer hasn't bowled well for almost a year and a half now. Broad > Umesh. Broad has also, barring the SA series, been godlike over the past year or so. Averaged 27 in Sri Lanka, 21 in UAE, 16 against India. That's very impresssive given the flat nature of the UAE and Sri Lankan pitches. Umesh had a good start and has very good pace but is a bit of a loose cannon. Does have the tendency to take wickets when bowling crap though. Finn > errr Kumar/Aaron? Finn is going to be one of the best bowlers in the world if not the best in a year or so. I think he will do very well in the tour of India. Ojha > Panesar There doesn't need to be an explanation. Panesar is ****.

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As for bowling well, we'll have to see if Broad and Anderson can reproduce their UAE figures. If they do, as well as the gun that is called Steven Finn then India have a real problem on their hands. Plus you have Swann who is always a threat on turners.
The difference here is that the pakis dont have a batting lineup and india do. in fact, i'd argue a 2nd string indian batting lineup is better than anything they have. so expecting broad and anderson to reproduce their UAE figures might be pushing it a bit. Finn will do well in any conditions, he is easily england's best bowler now and possibly one of the best in the world. other than that, the rest of your summary was spot on. india's test batting has seen an alarming decline since late 2010, no runs from the openers, not much from the middle order either, big-time failures both home and away. while some of the dead wood has been removed, some still remains. its hard for me to imagine this batting lineup scoring runs after struggling against new zealand and west indies in recent times; and england have a far better bowling attack than both of them. my guess is that india will try to prepare turners in an effort to restrict england's batsmen, knowing fully well that our own batsmen can't make those 500+ totals like they used to. so the battle between india's spinners and england's batsmen is the key and will most likely determine the winner of this test series

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Well in fairness, Pakistan's test batting isn't that horrendous. They have a very solid middle order in Azhar Ali, Younus Khan and Misbah Ul Haq. Unfortunately Taufeeq, Hafeez, Shafiq and Adnan/Kamran Akmal are all sitting ducks in test cricket.

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Yes Ojha is a far better bowler then Ashwin. He is unlucky that he is playing in this era of fitness before skill. This guy should be your main spinner in the side. How about Sir Ravendra Jadeja making the team at #7 and extra spin option against the team he beat 5-0 in ODIs last winter.
You couldn't be more wrong. Ojha is a defensive bowler compared to Ashwin. Ashwin is more attacking also got more variations. Ojha is at best a steady and accurate bowler. Ashwin has 3 different styles of bowling for 3 different formats.

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The touring England cricketers will take on India A in their opening warm-up game ahead of the four-Test series against India starting November 15, the BCCI announced today. The England cricket team will be playing three warm-up matches prior to the start of the Test series. "The visitors will play India 'A' at the Brabourne Stadium in Mumbai from 30 October 2012 to 1 November 2012. They will play Mumbai 'A' at the D.Y.
http://www.ptinews.com/news/3067697_England-to-take-on-India-A-in-opening-warm-up-match-

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In SC Viru>Cook Gauti>Compton Pujara>Trott SRT>Pieterson Kohli>Bell Yuvraj>Bairstow/Bopara Dhoni>Prior Ashwin>Swann Zaheer>Anderson (terrible in SC) UmeshPanesar) So that's 10-1 to India. Definitely 4-0. Or 3-0 if they want at least 1 full game to make money from ads and not having it end in 4 days.

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In SC Viru>Cook Gauti>Compton Pujara>Trott SRT>Pieterson Kohli>Bell Yuvraj>Bairstow/Bopara Dhoni>Prior Ashwin>Swann Zaheer>Anderson (terrible in SC) UmeshPanesar) So that's 10-1 to India. Definitely 4-0. Or 3-0 if they want at least 1 full game to make money from ads and not having it end in 4 days.
lol are you serious Dhoni better than Prior? in tests? SRT better than KP, maybe 10 years ago!

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In SC Viru>Cook Gauti>Compton Pujara>Trott SRT>Pieterson Kohli>Bell Yuvraj>Bairstow/Bopara Dhoni>Prior Ashwin>Swann Zaheer>Anderson (terrible in SC) UmeshPanesar) So that's 10-1 to India. Definitely 4-0. Or 3-0 if they want at least 1 full game to make money from ads and not having it end in 4 days.
:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

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98727.2.jpg Flintoff backs Pietersen to perform in India http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/587391.html
"When people get on Kevin's case he comes out swinging and scores runs," Flintoff told BBC Sport. "I think Alastair Cook might benefit from this. He might get KP at his best." "When Kevin's got a point to prove, he usually proves it with the bat," Flintoff said. "We saw that when he came into the international game in South Africa and he just kept scoring hundreds. In his last innings, he got a hundred at Headingley and saved England."

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In SC Viru>Cook Gauti>Compton Pujara>Trott SRT>Pieterson Kohli>Bell Yuvraj>Bairstow/Bopara Dhoni>Prior Ashwin>Swann Zaheer>Anderson (terrible in SC) UmeshPanesar) So that's 10-1 to India. Definitely 4-0. Or 3-0 if they want at least 1 full game to make money from ads and not having it end in 4 days.
Err Right, I'm not going to bite.

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lol are you serious Dhoni better than Prior? in tests? SRT better than KP, maybe 10 years ago!
Go on, explain how anyone of them were incorrect for Asian conditions. In the sub continent Dhoni has a great record and would be much better than Prior in these conditions. 4-0.

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Has the India A team taking on England in 10 days been announced yet? Here's the squad I'd like to see: Chand Rahane Menaria Mandeep Rayudu (thought he was chit but avg 102.5 in NZ A tour in 6 innings :hatsoff:) Yuvraj (as an all rounder) Saha Harbhajan Praveen (deserves a chance to prove himself considering Test record so far) Ishant Harmeet/Awana Youngsters with potential (barring a few in the top order :giggle:) and experienced players making comebacks.

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Has the India A team taking on England in 10 days been announced yet? Here's the squad I'd like to see: Chand Rahane Menaria Mandeep Rayudu Yuvraj Saha Harbhajan Praveen Ishant Harmeet Youngsters with potential (barring a few in the top order :giggle:) and experienced players making comebacks.
maybe rohit will get chance? :P :hysterical:

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If he plays ahead of Yuvi I'll asume Yuvi is already in. If he plays ahead of Mandeep... That's not gonna happen lol.
yes mandeep is definitely better then him imo .. and this should not happen hopefully vijay wont get in.. but u never know

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yes mandeep is definitely better then him imo .. and this should not happen hopefully vijay wont get in.. but u never know
Looking at Nohit's List A record the people saying he should be tried in Tests do have a bit of a point though. Cause he only has 5 hundreds in around 150 List A matches. Not everyone is a Mandeep, Nohit is just another talent not a very special player going from strength to strength with a future in all 3 forms for India. So his domestic average will be higher than Internationals. Maybe in Tests with more time to settle in he will score similarly to his 4 day record. VVS was pretty inconsistent at start of his career. Very similar record in ODI's to Nohit aswell (average and matches played) but he's a Test legend...

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Looking at Nohit's List A record the people saying he should be tried in Tests do have a bit of a point though. Cause he only has 5 hundreds in around 150 List A matches. Not everyone is a Mandeep, Nohit is just another talent not a very special player going from strength to strength with a future in all 3 forms for India. So his domestic average will be higher than Internationals. Maybe in Tests with more time to settle in he will score similarly to his 4 day record. VVS was pretty inconsistent at start of his career. Very similar record in ODI's to Nohit aswell (average and matches played) but he's a Test legend...
difference between vvs and rohit is.. vvs didnt had technical flaw cos of which he was shyte in odis it was his batting style rohit plays ball in air all the time .. with no vinay kumar ,unadkat types players who will feed him hit me balls he will fail very badly

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difference between vvs and rohit is.. vvs didnt had technical flaw cos of which he was shyte in odis it was his batting style rohit plays ball in air all the time .. with no vinay kumar ,unadkat types players who will feed him hit me balls he will fail very badly
VVS started bad in Tests too (avg 24 in 1st 16 Tests). Became consistent 3-4 years into his International career. Was very talented like Nohit (and unlike a Raina) But Nohit I agree has given away wickets alot. And you did not just say that. How dare you insult THE legend like that. And put him in the same sentence as Unadkat. :mad:

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VVS started bad in Tests too (avg 24 in 1st 16 Tests). Became consistent 3-4 years into his International career. Was very talented like Nohit (and unlike a Raina) But Nohit I agree has given away wickets alot. And you did not just say that. How dare you insult THE legend like that. And put him in the same sentence as Unadkat. :mad:
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There night be many talented players, but the difference is the mind, at this level it is ur temperament and how bad u want to succeed, Virat showed he has what it takes and is willing to work hard, Manish Pandey, Mandeep, Rayudu, Vijay might have the talent but, are they hungry, how strong are they in their mind,Rohit has loads of talent also has not been tried in his best format that is test, also VVS was shunted around and made to open and bat every position and not given much confidence for most of his career , he would have far superior stats if he was treated right.

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Go on, explain how anyone of them were incorrect for Asian conditions. In the sub continent Dhoni has a great record and would be much better than Prior in these conditions. 4-0.
Right. F**k this. I'll bite. First of all, Cook vs Gambhir: Gambhir has averaged 35.14 in the subcontinent in the past two years. He has scored 0 centuries. All of these have been in India by the way, where he is supposed to be "dominant" in. Cook has averaged 49.60 in the subcontinent. He has 4 centuries to his name in the sub-continent. Of course this has been inflated by his ridiculous average vs Bangladesh. But he has averaged 49 vs India and 46 vs Sri Lanka. So thats Cook > Gambhir I'm not going to do a comparison of Sehwag vs Root/Compton because frankly neither of them have played a game for England before and nobody knows how good they are in these sort of conditions. Oh and keep in mind Sehwag hasn't done anything of late, in both the SC and away games for the past two years. He got rolled over by New Zealand. England's attack are about 8 times better. Trott vs Pujara Jonathan Trott is the 2nd best No.3 in the world in test cricket, behind only Hashim Amla. Pujara is a cricket nobody who is a current stop gap for India so the likes of Kohli can get ready to play in that position. Pujara averaged 40 in test cricket and every single one of his games has been played in the SC, or India more specifically, his home. Funnily enough, he's been bowled out by the likes of Southee which is quite depressing. Trott's average in the SC isn't that impressive, only 42 actually. But he somehow failed against Bangladesh (in a series which didn't even matter given everyone else racked up the hundreds) which skewered his average down. If he can average 48.63 in Sri Lanka on rank turners then i think he'll do just as fine in India. Anyone who suggests that Pujara > Trott in any conditions anywhere in the world is either trolling or a retard who shouldn't be given internet access. Tendulkar vs KP If we're talking overall career's, Tendulkar is better than KP. Right now? KP >>>> Tendulkar. In fact, here's the stats to prove it. Over the past 2 years Tendulkar averages 42.34. To further denote that, he has averaged 35.56 in India, whre apparently he is better than KP. For the past two years KP has averaged 50.26... at a strike rate of almost 80. Work that out for yourself. In the SC KP averages 75.53.... Whacked The Sri lankan spinners off the park on a rank turner. KP > Tendulkar. Kohli vs Bell. Kohli has played 14 test matches. 10 of which were at home against Pop gun attacks and the other 4 he got annihalated in. Too early to judge on him. Bell is an excellent player against orthodox spin. In two years time Kohli > Bell definetely but right now in test cricket? Nope. Can't call it right now. Yuvraj vs Morgan Can't call this one. Two world class ODI players who can't and shouldn't be playing test cricket. Prior vs Dhoni Matt Prior is the best wicketkeeper batsman in the world. Dhoni lacks the technique for Test cricket. That is about the best summary you're going to get. But just to indulge you, I'll dig out statistics. Matt Prior averages 44 in India...which is only 1 run less than Dhoni who has played on those pitches his entire life! P.S This was also when Matt Prior wasn't as good as he is now. Prior >>>>>> [daylight] >>>>> Dhoni Anderson vs Zaheer... Is Zaheer Khan still alive? But I'll indulge you anyway. In the past two years, Anderson has averaged 24.66. Khan has averaged 29.70. In their careers Khan averaged 35.50 in India (lol). Anderson averaged 29.31 in India. So This proves that Anderson > Khan. Stuart Broad > Umesh Yadav. Atleast you flippin admit that one. Why the hell is Panesar being discussed. We're going to play Steven Finn and he's the best bowler on both the sides. But for jokes sakes, we'll compare him to Ishant Sharma. Yes, are you happy? There's nothing to be compared other than height. Ashwin and Swann is an interesting one. They're equal and for my explanation read earlier in the thread. Really can't be arsed typing it out for a retard like you.

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^ Pujara has played in SA. And why can't you judge between Kohli and Bell? Bell is horrible in SC.
Irrelevant point. Pujara and trott are still a plethora apart. Bell is horrible in the SC based on what? Being bamboozled by Ajmal in the UAE? Kohli has played little to nothing in comparison with Bell. Bell has 16 centuries and 34 50's. Kohli 2 centuries and 5 50's....

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Irrelevant point. Pujara and trott are still a plethora apart. Bell is horrible in the SC based on what? Being bamboozled by Ajmal in the UAE? Kohli has played little to nothing in comparison with Bell. Bell has 16 centuries and 34 50's. Kohli 2 centuries and 5 50's....
I was correcting you on where you said......
Pujara averaged 40 in test cricket and every single one of his games has been played in the SC
Comparing Bell's centuries with Kohli is pretty meaningless knowing that Kohli has only started playing Test Cricket.

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Pretty irrelevant post. Comparing Bell's centuries with Kohli is pretty meaningless knowing that Kohli has only started playing Test Cricket.
Actually its quite relevant. My point is you can't really compare a tried and tested and stable test match batsman with a supremely talented newbie. Kohli has to first implement the talent onto the cricket pitch, especially in test match cricket.
I was correcting you on where you said......
My mistake then, but the overall point still stands.

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Right. F**k this. I'll bite. First of all, Cook vs Gambhir: Gambhir has averaged 35.14 in the subcontinent in the past two years. He has scored 0 centuries. All of these have been in India by the way, where he is supposed to be "dominant" in. Cook has averaged 49.60 in the subcontinent. He has 4 centuries to his name in the sub-continent. Of course this has been inflated by his ridiculous average vs Bangladesh. But he has averaged 49 vs India and 46 vs Sri Lanka. So thats Cook > Gambhir I'm not going to do a comparison of Sehwag vs Root/Compton because frankly neither of them have played a game for England before and nobody knows how good they are in these sort of conditions. Oh and keep in mind Sehwag hasn't done anything of late, in both the SC and away games for the past two years. He got rolled over by New Zealand. England's attack are about 8 times better. Trott vs Pujara Jonathan Trott is the 2nd best No.3 in the world in test cricket, behind only Hashim Amla. Pujara is a cricket nobody who is a current stop gap for India so the likes of Kohli can get ready to play in that position. Pujara averaged 40 in test cricket and every single one of his games has been played in the SC, or India more specifically, his home. Funnily enough, he's been bowled out by the likes of Southee which is quite depressing. Trott's average in the SC isn't that impressive, only 42 actually. But he somehow failed against Bangladesh (in a series which didn't even matter given everyone else racked up the hundreds) which skewered his average down. If he can average 48.63 in Sri Lanka on rank turners then i think he'll do just as fine in India. Anyone who suggests that Pujara > Trott in any conditions anywhere in the world is either trolling or a retard who shouldn't be given internet access. Tendulkar vs KP If we're talking overall career's, Tendulkar is better than KP. Right now? KP >>>> Tendulkar. In fact, here's the stats to prove it. Over the past 2 years Tendulkar averages 42.34. To further denote that, he has averaged 35.56 in India, whre apparently he is better than KP. For the past two years KP has averaged 50.26... at a strike rate of almost 80. Work that out for yourself. In the SC KP averages 75.53.... Whacked The Sri lankan spinners off the park on a rank turner. KP > Tendulkar. Kohli vs Bell. Kohli has played 14 test matches. 10 of which were at home against Pop gun attacks and the other 4 he got annihalated in. Too early to judge on him. Bell is an excellent player against orthodox spin. In two years time Kohli > Bell definetely but right now in test cricket? Nope. Can't call it right now. Yuvraj vs Morgan Can't call this one. Two world class ODI players who can't and shouldn't be playing test cricket. Prior vs Dhoni Matt Prior is the best wicketkeeper batsman in the world. Dhoni lacks the technique for Test cricket. That is about the best summary you're going to get. But just to indulge you, I'll dig out statistics. Matt Prior averages 44 in India...which is only 1 run less than Dhoni who has played on those pitches his entire life! P.S This was also when Matt Prior wasn't as good as he is now. Prior >>>>>> [daylight] >>>>> Dhoni Anderson vs Zaheer... Is Zaheer Khan still alive? But I'll indulge you anyway. In the past two years, Anderson has averaged 24.66. Khan has averaged 29.70. In their careers Khan averaged 35.50 in India (lol). Anderson averaged 29.31 in India. So This proves that Anderson > Khan. Stuart Broad > Umesh Yadav. Atleast you flippin admit that one. Why the hell is Panesar being discussed. We're going to play Steven Finn and he's the best bowler on both the sides. But for jokes sakes, we'll compare him to Ishant Sharma. Yes, are you happy? There's nothing to be compared other than height. Ashwin and Swann is an interesting one. They're equal and for my explanation read earlier in the thread. Really can't be arsed typing it out for a retard like you.
4nd3K.gif too long... Anyways all English are chit in SC. 4-0. Wanna have an AVI bet? I pick your Avatar if 4-0 otherwise other way round.

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Right. F**k this. I'll bite. First of all, Cook vs Gambhir: Gambhir has averaged 35.14 in the subcontinent in the past two years. He has scored 0 centuries. All of these have been in India by the way, where he is supposed to be "dominant" in. Cook has averaged 49.60 in the subcontinent. He has 4 centuries to his name in the sub-continent. Of course this has been inflated by his ridiculous average vs Bangladesh. But he has averaged 49 vs India and 46 vs Sri Lanka. So thats Cook > Gambhir I'm not going to do a comparison of Sehwag vs Root/Compton because frankly neither of them have played a game for England before and nobody knows how good they are in these sort of conditions. Oh and keep in mind Sehwag hasn't done anything of late, in both the SC and away games for the past two years. He got rolled over by New Zealand. England's attack are about 8 times better. Trott vs Pujara Jonathan Trott is the 2nd best No.3 in the world in test cricket, behind only Hashim Amla. Pujara is a cricket nobody who is a current stop gap for India so the likes of Kohli can get ready to play in that position. Pujara averaged 40 in test cricket and every single one of his games has been played in the SC, or India more specifically, his home. Funnily enough, he's been bowled out by the likes of Southee which is quite depressing. Trott's average in the SC isn't that impressive, only 42 actually. But he somehow failed against Bangladesh (in a series which didn't even matter given everyone else racked up the hundreds) which skewered his average down. If he can average 48.63 in Sri Lanka on rank turners then i think he'll do just as fine in India. Anyone who suggests that Pujara > Trott in any conditions anywhere in the world is either trolling or a retard who shouldn't be given internet access. Tendulkar vs KP If we're talking overall career's, Tendulkar is better than KP. Right now? KP >>>> Tendulkar. In fact, here's the stats to prove it. Over the past 2 years Tendulkar averages 42.34. To further denote that, he has averaged 35.56 in India, whre apparently he is better than KP. For the past two years KP has averaged 50.26... at a strike rate of almost 80. Work that out for yourself. In the SC KP averages 75.53.... Whacked The Sri lankan spinners off the park on a rank turner. KP > Tendulkar. Kohli vs Bell. Kohli has played 14 test matches. 10 of which were at home against Pop gun attacks and the other 4 he got annihalated in. Too early to judge on him. Bell is an excellent player against orthodox spin. In two years time Kohli > Bell definetely but right now in test cricket? Nope. Can't call it right now. Yuvraj vs Morgan Can't call this one. Two world class ODI players who can't and shouldn't be playing test cricket. Prior vs Dhoni Matt Prior is the best wicketkeeper batsman in the world. Dhoni lacks the technique for Test cricket. That is about the best summary you're going to get. But just to indulge you, I'll dig out statistics. Matt Prior averages 44 in India...which is only 1 run less than Dhoni who has played on those pitches his entire life! P.S This was also when Matt Prior wasn't as good as he is now. Prior >>>>>> [daylight] >>>>> Dhoni Anderson vs Zaheer... Is Zaheer Khan still alive? But I'll indulge you anyway. In the past two years, Anderson has averaged 24.66. Khan has averaged 29.70. In their careers Khan averaged 35.50 in India (lol). Anderson averaged 29.31 in India. So This proves that Anderson > Khan. Stuart Broad > Umesh Yadav. Atleast you flippin admit that one. Why the hell is Panesar being discussed. We're going to play Steven Finn and he's the best bowler on both the sides. But for jokes sakes, we'll compare him to Ishant Sharma. Yes, are you happy? There's nothing to be compared other than height. Ashwin and Swann is an interesting one. They're equal and for my explanation read earlier in the thread. Really can't be arsed typing it out for a retard like you.
K.p averages 58 in sc and that too due to his bangladesh exploits.Including UAE his average drops to 41.Anyways England will be whitewashed in india.

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K.p averages 58 in sc and that too due to his bangladesh exploits.Including UAE his average drops to 41.Anyways England will be whitewashed in india.
Was referring to SC performances in the past two years. Anything beyond that isn't much of an indicator due to form/ageing etc.
Anyways all English are chit in SC. 4-0. Wanna have an AVI bet? I pick your Avatar if 4-0 otherwise other way round.
Let's up the ante. Your betting England will lose 4-0. Im betting they won't. How about we bet with real money? Let's say 500GBP? If you're up post your paypal account details here and I'll post mine.

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Let's up the ante. Your betting England will lose 4-0. Im betting they won't. How about we bet with real money? Let's say 500GBP? If you're up post your paypal account details here and I'll post mine.
lol I'd bet my house on it. Like I did for Pakistan 3-0. That was hilarious, especially the 72 all out where an ordinary left arm spinners who India would whip was made to look like a world beater. :haha: And plus Pakistan unlike India had a B grade batting lineup, not International class (much like Jimmy) England can't play spin on slow tracks, Indian batsmen are masters of it. So definitely 4-0. /thread

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lol I'd bet my house on it. Like I did for Pakistan 3-0. That was hilarious, especially the 72 all out where an ordinary left arm spinners who India would whip was made to look like a world beater. And plus Pakistan unlike India had a B grade batting lineup, not International class (much like Jimmy) England can't play spin on slow tracks, Indian batsmen are masters of it. So definitely 4-0.
You probably don't own a house. You predicted 3-0? So did I, actually. And i got ridiculed for it here. Look back on the thread I started predicted the whitewash of England. Yep, Pakistan had a non international class batting lineup. Atleast they have a international bowling attack no? India don't have a club level batting lineup or a bowling attack from what we saw in England. 8-0. Come back when your team can play cricket.

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Agree most of it but what did England do when they were here last year for the ODIs?
Yeah but Bopara, Patel, Bairstow, Kieswetter are either crap or not ready. Bell, KP, Prior are much better. Also ODI's are a different ball game to tests. See the UAE results for that. In ODI's England's players have to attack the spinners. Cook, Trott and and Bell will happily chug along at 2-3 runs an over blocking out most balls and whacking off the bad ones. Cant say the same for KP though.

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You probably don't own a house. You predicted 3-0? So did I, actually. And i got ridiculed for it here. Look back on the thread I started predicted the whitewash of England. Yep, Pakistan had a non international class batting lineup. Atleast they have a international bowling attack no? India don't have a club level batting lineup or a bowling attack from what we saw in England. 8-0. Come back when your team can play cricket.
Good of u to admit that ur team doesnt have a good batting lineup.Now kindly explain how the world class England bowling lineup allowed them to get scores of above 300 As for the great England batting,remember what the chubby faced Chawla and a darting Bhajji did to them in the recent WC.So scarred were ingerlund that they went begging on their knees to Kp.

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Yeah but Bopara, Patel, Bairstow, Kieswetter are either crap or not ready. Bell, KP, Prior are much better. Also ODI's are a different ball game to tests. See the UAE results for that. In ODI's England's players have to attack the spinners. Cook, Trott and and Bell will happily chug along at 2-3 runs an over blocking out most balls and whacking off the bad ones. Cant say the same for KP though.
KP and Cook might be an exception. Bell was dropped from the side in India and in UAE they won the ODI series which they were expected to lose. I don't see a whitewash against them but we will easily win the series.

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Good of u to admit that ur team doesnt have a good batting lineup.Now kindly explain how the world class England bowling lineup allowed them to get scores of above 300 As for the great England batting,remember what the chubby faced Chawla and a darting Bhajji did to them in the recent WC.So scarred were ingerlund that they went begging on their knees to Kp.
From now on I'll only respond to non-troll/non-stupid/non-retarded/non-bait posts. Should have done this long ago.

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BCCI revises schedule for England ODIs http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-news/bcci-revises-schedule-england-odis/31192

The Board of Control for Cricket in India has switched the venues for the last two One-Day internationals against England in early 2013 due to the winter chill that envelopes North India in January. The fourth ODI of the five-match series will now be played in Mohali on January 23 and the fifth in Dharamshala on January 27. Earlier, Dharamshala was due to host the fourth game and Mohali the fifth. The start time of the Mohali ODI has been revised to 12 noon, instead of 2:30 pm, and the Dharamshala ODI has been revised to a day game that will start at 9:00am. "These revisions have been made taking into account the cold evening temperatures that will prevail in Mohali and Dharamshala in late January," said the BCCI in a statement. The first leg of England tour’s from October 29 to December 22 comprises three practice matches, four Tests and two Twenty20 Internationals. The team will then fly home for Christmas before returning on January 3 for the ODIs that start on January 11. England’s revised ODI tour schedule: Jan 3 : Arrival in Delhi Jan 6 : Tour match, Delhi Jan 8 : Tour match, Delhi Jan 11 : First ODI, Rajkot (D/N) Jan 15 : Second ODI, Kochi (D/N) Jan 19 : Third ODI, Ranchi (D/N) Jan 23 : Fourth ODI, Mohali (D/N) Jan 27 : Fifth ODI, Dharamshala (day)

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Sky and BCCI in pre-series dispute

Sky TV may not send its team of commentators to cover England's tour of India, which begins in November, unless a dispute with the BCCI over access for their commentary team to the Test venues is resolved. Sky hold the UK rights for the series, but the Sunday Times in London reported the broadcaster had received an unexpected demand from the Indian board for additional fees totalling more than £500,000 ($800,000) for their commentary team to have facilities at the grounds. ESPNcricinfo understands the figure being quoted to Sky is the BCCI's estimate of 'realistic costs' related to Sky's wish to have independent and unilateral coverage of the India-England series. The cost includes, among other things, studio space and a commentary box for Sky's own panel of commentators, a TV control room, audio and video feed, a scoring monitor, as well as satellite uplinking from the venues for 30 days of cricket. Sky's interpretation is that securing of TV rights should automatically assume such provisions as part of the deal. Sky warned their bank of commentators, including former England captains Michael Atherton, Nasser Hussain and Ian Botham, that they regard the BCCI's demands as brinkmanship, and that they may not travel unless a solution can be found. If the dispute is not settled, Sky would be forced to accept commentary from the host broadcaster or set up a studio outside the grounds. Problems for UK broadcasters have been a common feature of England games in India. During a one-day series last year, televison audiences in India and England were deprived of the first three overs of a match in Hyderabad because of a dispute between the host broadcaster of the time, Neo Sports, and Prasar Bharati, the government agency responsible for uplinking live telecasts out of India. There was also an issue about Sky TV's own commentators awaiting what one Sky commentator told ESPNcricinfo were "government clearances", before being able to broadcast live out of India. As a result, the Sky TV producers made use of the Neo Cricket commentary team, which included Matthew Hoggard and Dermot Reeve. There were also problems for Sky before England's 2006 tour of India, when they agreed terms with Nimbus, who had just bought the rights to India's home matches, only a few days before the series began. The Indian board has since terminated its deal with Nimbus because of alleged payment defaults and announced a more lucrative deal with Star TV.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/587518.html

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