wobblydoggy Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Discuss This should upset a few, but I think it is likely Link to comment
akshayxyz Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 There is nothing much to discuss. I think most would agree that going forward its almost impossible for any team to stay at top for more than 2-3 years - forget about dominating. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Define the word dominate here? Link to comment
wobblydoggy Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Define the word dominate here? As in win the largest % of their games maintain an overall No1 standing unless losing it briefly till we play again. Get a good one day side. Win Test Championships Link to comment
VRV Singh Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Ten years? Incidentally your definition of domination would differ from most others. It is still hugely optimistic though. It's not like other teams can't improve and the England team regress. Link to comment
Clarke Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Hey, its Indian fans who are supposed to be arrogant as per the neutral fans from our neighborhood. Ten years is too long a time to predict even if ECB signed a deal with Cricket South Africa. Link to comment
ganeshran Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 You simply cannot predict a team's performance 10 years down the line. Your players change, the coach changes, the level of other teams change. Too many variables to make a prediction. Link to comment
kabira Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 If you can beat SL or even Draw the series there, then you have my respect... Link to comment
Bumper Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Come on wobbly, I can understand the euphoria after dominating our hyped up #1 team. But to achieve domination, England has to do two things: 1) Beat SAF both at home & away - which you have not done 2) Beat SL & India in the subcontinent - which you have not done. Your fast bowlers are good, not great. Your batsmen are all good, not great. I see England as a very good team that will be hard to beat. It is no where close to a dominant team (unless other teams regress so much making England look dominant). Link to comment
Number Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 depends upon how good their bowlers can do in batting - friendly conditions. Also domination is considered if you are raked good in ODIs as well and constantly performing well in ODI tournaments. They will have to improve their performance in that. apart from that they have advantage of being a young side with good fitness level so at least 5 years they can dominate test cricket if they maintain the same form and dominate SA and SL in away tests. Link to comment
kabira Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Come on wobbly, I can understand the euphoria after dominating our hyped up #1 team. But to achieve domination, England has to do two things: 1) Beat SAF both at home & away - which you have not done 2) Beat SL & India in the subcontinent - which you have not done. Your fast bowlers are good, not great. Your batsmen are all good, not great. I see England as a very good team that will be hard to beat. It is no where close to a dominant team (unless other teams regress so much making England look dominant). How come our hyped up team stayed for Number 1 for almost 20 months?? Luck?? Link to comment
Stuge Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It even hard to predict teams performance for a year ,and you are predicting ,they will dominate for 10 years .Doing numerology of some kind ? Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Age of current players after 5 years Strauss : 39 Cook : 31 KP : 36 Bell : 34 Prior : 34 Bresnan : 31 Trott : 35 Swann : 40 Anderson : 34 Broad : 30 How can ICFers discuss 10 year domination? What would be basis of such discussion? Link to comment
Cricket Tragic Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Age of current players after 5 years Strauss : 39 Cook : 31 KP : 36 Bell : 34 Prior : 34 Bresnan : 31 Trott : 35 Swann : 40 Anderson : 34 Broad : 30 How ICFers can discuss 10 year domination? What would be basis of such discussion? You can't. Link to comment
Karan114 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Haven't been no.1 for five minutes and already talking about a decade long domination - roflol. Link to comment
Moman211 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 How come our hyped up team stayed for Number 1 for almost 20 months?? Luck?? exactly if India stayed there for 20 months imagine England and also i dont understand this myth that Indian fans have that England are not Number 1 unless they win in the subcontinent thats like saying Indias 20 month reign was not legitimate cause they never won in aus or SA Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 exactly if India stayed there for 20 months imagine England and also i dont understand this myth that Indian fans have that England are not Number 1 unless they win in the subcontinent thats like saying Indias 20 month reign was not legitimate cause they never won in aus or SA It's not a myth among Indian fans. You're generalizing opinions of few to all Indian fans. It's a reply to English fans who said that India can't be true no 1 without winning in SA and Eng. Most of the Indian fans at that argued that no 1 just means better performance than others. This thread is about dominance which is not same as just being no 1 (at least most of the fans would think same). Link to comment
saneindian Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 With the world's leading spinner having figures of 4 wickets @75 in 3 tests, if I was an English fan, I would be worried about the impending tours of the sub continent. A series loss against teams ranked 5th and 6th could mean England hurtling down to number 3 or 4 very soon. With a 34 year old captain who averages 31 in last 18 months, I would be worried about the next 6 months. Who fills that huge vaccuum likely to be left after his impending departure. If Ravi Bopara is the leading reserve batsman of a team, I would be worried saving my number 1 rank rather than talk of domination. Link to comment
wobblydoggy Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'll explain my logic tomorrow, a bit busy tonight cheers Wobbly Link to comment
DomainK Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I don't know about dominating, but England will remain a strong team for some years to come. They have the players, the temperament and the momentum. This victory against India is quite a statement after the wonderful Ashes win. Link to comment
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