India A to play 3 first class matches on the A tour to WI, June 2012

[Sooda]

I dont think Pragyan should play for an A side, him and Ashwin are senior test bowlers now. I also dont think Darekar is that bad a pick, he is supposed to be an attacking left armer. Yes ideally hed have played for a season more at least, but there are not too many other options...I dont think Iqbal has had a good Ranji season...? The other option is Apanna... RPS and Saxena are obvious glaring flaws. Good article..and good point about lack of media coverage ...I wish our A side was run like England Lions, the Lions team has been crucial for the development of so many young Eng players- it is why theyve got so much depth

[Magneto]

Regarding Darekar - does the article claim that Jadeja and Abdullah have better claims as a specialist bowler :giggle: Abdullah has done shyte in the Ranjis this season and bechara Jaddu has no backing :sad: so he's been sadly ignored. :giggle:

[The Outsider]

I dont think Pragyan should play for an A side' date=' him and Ashwin are senior test bowlers now. I also dont think Darekar is that bad a pick, [b']he is supposed to be an attacking left armer. Yes ideally hed have played for a season more at least, but there are not too many other options...I dont think Iqbal has had a good Ranji season...? The other option is Apanna...

IMO, there is no such thing as an attacking left arm orthodox spinner - even the most attacking of them, Bedi, was defensive. To be a successful bowling unit one needs a leg spinner - an off spinner will do as well but the country is simply not producing any quality cricketers.

[Needforspeed]

R.P. Singh also mush have some real good godfathers...His getting picked ahead of so many bowlers who excelled in the domestic Ranji Trophy clearly indicates that. Elite : 1. T.P.Sudhindra (recent fixing fame) 40 wickets 2. Dinda -37 3 Pankaj Singh -34 4. H.V.Patel -28 5. Awana -28 R.P.Singh is way down with just 14 wickets

[Magneto]

R.P. Singh also mush have some real good godfathers...His getting picked ahead of so many bowlers who excelled in the domestic Ranji Trophy clearly indicates that. Elite : 1. T.P.Sudhindra (recent fixing fame) 40 wickets 2. Dinda -37 3 Pankaj Singh -34 4. H.V.Patel -28 5. Awana -28 R.P.Singh is way down with just 14 wickets

Apparently, it's his last chance or something :dontknow: Out of these 5, Dinda is already in; Awana is the only guy who could have been given a shot. I dunno about Pankaj Singh's merits though :dontknow:

[Sooda]

IMO' date=' there is no such thing as an attacking left arm orthodox spinner - even the most attacking of them, Bedi, was defensive. To be a successful bowling unit one needs a leg spinner - an off spinner will do as well but the country is simply not producing any quality cricketers.[/quote'] Hmm.. well attacking only in the sense that he is prepared to flight the ball and get turn.. not quick, flat bowling which is prevalent these days. That is what I read anyway.. same for TN SLA Srinivas, though he is only 18 or 19

[rkt.india]

IMO' date= there is no such thing as an attacking left arm orthodox spinner - even the most attacking of them, Bedi, was defensive. To be a successful bowling unit one needs a leg spinner - an off spinner will do as well but the country is simply not producing any quality cricketers.

:agree: Agree about bold part. Regarding non-bold part, my view is we have always produced more average to mediocre cricketers than quality cricketers and it is for every era, not just now.

[Sooda]

All decent domestic spin bowlers right now are slow left armers...

[Magneto]

All decent domestic spin bowlers right now are slow left armers...

There is not a single offie in the horizon. I think Bhajji's kidnapped all of them

[Cricket Tragic]

IMO' date=' there is no such thing as an attacking left arm orthodox spinner - even the most attacking of them, Bedi, was defensive. To be a successful bowling unit one needs a leg spinner - an off spinner will do as well but the country is simply not producing any quality cricketers.[/quote'] Agree and the problem for us is that they're the type of spinners we're producing these days.

[Ultimate_Game]

OP proves why India is destined to languish in mediocrity at intl level. We don't deserve to be at the top on a consistent if these are the custodians of Indian cricket.

[Chandan]

In terms of averages (in FCs): a) Darekar - 23.63 b) Appanna - 32.65 c) Nadeem - 34.34 In this year's RANJI: a) Darekar - 32 wickets (6 matches) @ 17.43 b) Appanna - 28 wickets (8 matches) @ 29.53 c) Nadeem - 19 wickets (5 matches) @ 37.63 In this year's DULEEP Trophy: a) Darekar - 7 wickets (1 match) @ 22. 85 b) Nadeem - 7 wickets (3 matches) @ 32.00 c) Appanna - 2 wickets (1 match) @ 111.00 Frankly, Nadeem is no match for Darekar in the 4/5-day format as of now. Even in the Duleep Trophy match they're facing each other, Darekar easily outbowled Nadeem. Apanna might come close, but Darekar is easily the pick of the bowlers right now. Just because he doesn't have an IPL contract, he's unheard of and the others are stars. I don't know much about the Australian set-up, but I think the selection of the India-A team is quite good. Regarding Dhawan's selection, remember the same A-team will play ODIs and T20s as well, so Dhawan might be in the team because of his good performances in the Vijay Hazare Trophy and the IPL.

Darekar has taken all those wickets in the plate league where batsmen are certainly inferior to that of Elite league. So shouldn't the selectors have ideally waited for one more season to see if his talent is real and dependable or if he too is one season wonder?!

The only real baffling selections are RP and Jalaj Saxena for me. Selection of Bhuvan can also be questioned because he is nowhere near India cap and also did not have a great FC season, still decent selection. RP is so unfit that it does not seem like he can bowl more than 3-4 overs in a spell.

I think non selection Awana, Aaron is equally baffling!

[Magneto]

Darekar has taken all those wickets in the plate league where batsmen are certainly inferior to that of Elite league. So shouldn't the selectors have ideally waited for one more season to see if his talent is real and dependable or if he too is one season wonder?! I think non selection Awana, Aaron is equally baffling!

Even Aaron and Yadav play in the Plate League. So does Nadeem, who you advocated. Darekar has clearly shown his potential this year and has performed well in Duleep Trophy too. He is the leading wicket taker in the Plate League. Had their been some spinner in the Elite League performing at par with him, I would've still understood. And you want some toothless, non-performing guy to be picked over him just because they play in the Elite League? And why would Aaron be selected for an A-tour without even proving his fitness in a single 4-5 day match?

[Magneto]

OP proves why India is destined to languish in mediocrity at intl level. We don't deserve to be at the top on a consistent if these are the custodians of Indian cricket.

OP's point is largely overblown.

[MCcricket]

Jalaj Saxena is a very good potential spinner, he spins the ball, has good flight and loop, also a decent bat, selectors have earmarked him because of talent/potential, nothing wrong unless it is a Mithun or someone completely useless like Unadkat , he was more of a batter bits and pieces player earlier now is a handy spinner.

[Raghav_12]

I had mentioned that something is wrong when he was selected for RoI's team for Irani trophy. http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=272084&highlight=jalaj&page=2 After Irani trophy this guy didn't do anything of note in last domestic season and still he finds a place a India A team. Clear Case of Nepotism.

[Lord]

I dont know anything about Saxena,but the author seems to make his point based on stats.sometimes u gotta look beyond them.even Umesh was first selected wen he didnt hv stats to back him up

[rkt.india]

I dont know anything about Saxena' date='but the author seems to make his point based on stats.sometimes u gotta look beyond them.even Umesh was first selected wen he didnt hv stats to back him up[/quote'] Umesh had decent stats, has an average of 25 in FC and SR of 49.

[Chandan]

Even Aaron and Yadav play in the Plate League. So does Nadeem, who you advocated. Darekar has clearly shown his potential this year and has performed well in Duleep Trophy too. He is the leading wicket taker in the Plate League. Had their been some spinner in the Elite League performing at par with him, I would've still understood. And you want some toothless, non-performing guy to be picked over him just because they play in the Elite League? And why would Aaron be selected for an A-tour without even proving his fitness in a single 4-5 day match?

Proving his fitness? It is not the India international side my dear, it is India A. Didn't you see how Mitchell Johnson was chosen? Or Pat Cummins? Maybe, they could've make him play few club games of 2 days duration or so, like in Buchi babu. And how can you say that the highest wicket taker in spin department in Elite League of Ranjis is toothless?

[Chandan]

Nadeem hasn't done anything of note. Dhawan will play One day matches. You dont discard players so early. He has not played many matches yet.

On which tour will he play one day matches? Because this tour doesn't have any, I'm sorry!