Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Umesh bowls a good inswinging yorker we have seen it in ipl' date='test cricket,odi death overs .He is just too young to make such hasty calls.[b']He has played on some flat tracks.Its too early . Now that's something which is not true at all. He played CB Series in Aus and you can't too many bowling friendly tracks than in Aus. Today as well was quite a decent track to bowl on for pacers in 2nd innings. Truth is he only looked decent against the likes of WI and maybe Eng to some extent but against decent opponents he has been a non-factor even on Aus pitches. Link to comment
CG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Now that's something which is not true at all. He played CB Series in Aus and you can't too many bowling friendly tracks than in Aus. Today as well was quite a decent track to bowl on for pacers in 2nd innings. Truth is he only looked decent against the likes of WI and maybe Eng to some extent but against decent opponents he has been a non-factor even on Aus pitches. Look at the scores in those matches - hobart-320-drilanka india -321 brisbane-289 srilanka -238 india adelaisde-australai 288 india 200 under lights as i said everybody got hammered and cons dering he bowled 1st change. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Look at the scores in those matches - hobart-320-drilanka india -321 brisbane-289 srilanka -238 india adelaisde-australai 288 india 200 under lights as i said everybody got hammered and cons dering he bowled 1st change. Yes everyone got hammered but for the last 2 matches (289-238 and 288-under 200) why do you think the opponents were able to score that many when India struggled? Coz our premier fast bowler was a non-factor and his overs had to be completed by part-time spinners who are totally non-effective in Aus. In India someone like Raina & Sehwag can fill in a few overs but in Aus they would be cannon fodder. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Umesh bowls a good inswinging yorker we have seen it in ipl' date='test cricket,odi death overs .He is just too young to make such hasty calls.He has played on some flat tracks.Its too early .[/quote'] Here's a rebuttal to your yorker claim. Match situation is SL require 12 an over to win in slog overs and the best option would be to go for yorkers and this is what Umesh bowls.... Most of the balls were short and wide :facepalm: Seriously when defending more than 12 an over at the death if a bowler has a good yorker, as you claim, wouldn't he bowl a yorker? So either he can't and not good enough, or he's totally brainless which anyway proves my point. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Yes everyone got hammered but for the last 2 matches (289-238 and 288-under 200) why do you think the opponents were able to score that many when India struggled? Coz our premier fast bowler was a non-factor and his overs had to be completed by part-time spinners who are totally non-effective in Aus. In India someone like Raina & Sehwag can fill in a few overs but in Aus they would be cannon fodder. Because we batted under lights and conditions changed drastically. Did you even watch those matches, at times he bowled even after 20 overs. So much negativity here. Look at Malinga what happened to him. Malinga was carted for 96 in 10 overs in that 37 over match and look at today 83 runs. He is the so called best death bowler in the world. Link to comment
Number Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here's a rebuttal to your yorker claim. Match situation is SL require 12 an over to win in slog overs and the best option would be to go for yorkers and this is what Umesh bowls.... Most of the balls were short and wide :facepalm: Seriously when defending more than 12 an over at the death if a bowler has a good yorker, as you claim, wouldn't he bowl a yorker? So either he can't and not good enough, or he's totally brainless which anyway proves my point. Even Zak bowled short in the next over. Because they didn't want to pitch it up for Parera. Later they realized and then he bowled good yorkers in the next overs. And after that he got Sanga off a fuller delivery. Link to comment
asterix Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Getting tonked by Malinga now in the dead last over.. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Even Zak bowled short in the next over. Because they didn't want to pitch it up for Parera. Later they realized and then he bowled good yorkers in the next overs. And after that he got Sanga off a fuller delivery. At the end of the day he finished off with 2-76 :facepalm: Link to comment
CG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here's a rebuttal to your yorker claim. Match situation is SL require 12 an over to win in slog overs and the best option would be to go for yorkers and this is what Umesh bowls.... Most of the balls were short and wide :facepalm: Seriously when defending more than 12 an over at the death if a bowler has a good yorker, as you claim, wouldn't he bowl a yorker? So either he can't and not good enough, or he's totally brainless which anyway proves my point. its all part of the plan. Link to comment
CG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 At the end of the day he finished off with 2-76 :facepalm: look he got wickets:hatsoff: if vinay or pk would have been bowling to sanga most probably that scoop shot would have been hit for a six Link to comment
Number Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 At the end of the day he finished off with 2-76 :facepalm: Should've been 60-3 with better fielding and a bit more accuracy. I'll take it. I'm sure if it was PK with 3 overs remaining in the last 5 overs., we would've even lost this game. On the other hand I really like Pathan's death over bowling today. Link to comment
Needforspeed Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 His last over to Malinga was the most brainless over of the match. Why does this guy and Ishant seem to think that fast bowling is all about short pitched balls :facepalm: Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I would play in the all the matches and see if he can improve his death bowling,i am not sure if he should play in the T20 world cup. Link to comment
Old guy Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 give him few games its all abt rhythm when he is on song his balls automatically are pitched further up and they move a lot more they were on a long long break i will take this win will improve as series progresses im sure either way he is good enough test bowler for us even if he does not improves in odis Link to comment
Manny_Pacquiao Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 you guys must be visually impaired if you think he is a good death bowler. either that, or you just aren't watching the game. neither would surprise me. the guy is just an awful ODI bowler. he always bleeds runs, can never bowl to a field, and sends down more *****y deliveries than any bowler in international cricket. he has no future as an ODI bowler. i would be scared as hell if i saw the guy getting the ball in a tight game. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 its all part of the plan. I fail to see through the plan. Apparently bowling short is the plan when the bowler can supposedly bowl good yorkers :facepalm: look he got wickets:hatsoff: if vinay or pk would have been bowling to sanga most probably that scoop shot would have been hit for a six But if Vinay would have been around the match could have been over in the first half itself. No matter what you say about Vinny he can at least bowl well with the new ball. Should've been 60-3 with better fielding and a bit more accuracy. I'll take it. I'm sure if it was PK with 3 overs remaining in the last 5 overs., we would've even lost this game. On the other hand I really like Pathan's death over bowling today. Coulda woulda shoulda... even Vinny & PK bowl with the same cr@ppy fielding. It's not as if other bowlers get different set of fielders than Umesh. But if PK was bowling today he would have finished the match in the first half itself the way the new ball was swinging. Going for 6s and 4s against malinga doesn't turn me into a believer in Umesh's death bowling skills. Link to comment
J P K Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Maybe you need to check Umesh's stats and maybe you will roll on the floor with laughter after that :giggle: so true 6 matches ave 59.80 5wickets Link to comment
CG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I fail to see through the plan. Apparently bowling short is the plan when the bowler can supposedly bowl good yorkers :facepalm: But if Vinay would have been around the match could have been over in the first half itself. No matter what you say about Vinny he can at least bowl well with the new ball. Coulda woulda shoulda... even Vinny & PK bowl with the same cr@ppy fielding. It's not as if other bowlers get different set of fielders than Umesh. But if PK was bowling today he would have finished the match in the first half itself the way the new ball was swinging. Going for 6s and 4s against malinga doesn't turn me into a believer in Umesh's death bowling skills. Yes they would have finished the game for india by being hammered. Link to comment
CG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 so true 6 matches ave 59.80 5wickets :haha::haha:Tests 1 1 78 73 1 1/73 1/73 73.00 5.61 78.0 0 0 0 Link to comment
Crookbond Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Vinay Kumar versus Umesh Yadav. Seriously?! :blink: Link to comment
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