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But that's the dilemma if you watched complete show then you cannot read the book. I have yet to watch Red wedding episode , but in book it happened in a flash , just a page back no clue whats going to happen next.
if you have watched the TV show you can still read the books because at certain points the book does provide some useful background info. But many times this background info about people/places/families/animals etc is not pertinent and gets quite boring in the book - the tv show is short, crisp and to the point so I'd prefer the show to the books... the red wedding was a good episode.
those who are raving about the Red Wedding will get a big shock when they see Joffrey's wedding and its after-effects :D
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if you have watched the TV show you can still read the books because at certain points the book does provide some useful background info. But many times this background info about people/places/families/animals etc is not pertinent and gets quite boring in the book - the tv show is short, crisp and to the point so I'd prefer the show to the books... the red wedding was a good episode.
those who are raving about the Red Wedding will get a big shock when they see Joffrey's wedding and its after-effects :D
Depends, if you have enough time in hand books are always better. But I agree some time books get boring with lot of details, which may not really require
Joffrey marriage, Tyrion marriage,Tyrion surprising Tywin,Lord Snow ...lot of twists , but I think after red wedding people who not read books will start expecting twists everywhere :winky:
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Depends, if you have enough time in hand books are always better. But I agree some time books get boring with lot of details, which may not really require
Joffrey marriage, Tyrion marriage,Tyrion surprising Tywin,Lord Snow ...lot of twists , but I think after red wedding people who not read books will start expecting twists everywhere :winky:
people who haven't read books would have expected surprises from the moment Ned Stark was beheaded. But I'd say the biggest surprise till now would be the fate of Cercei in the 5th book... one thing I liked about season 3 was how they made the scenes of Brienne a but interesting because IMO her scenes in the book were so boring as to make people sleep. Have to say that the author has done an incredible job of creating brilliant twists in this series while weaving such a complex storyline comprising so many different Houses/Empires :hatsoff:
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people who haven't read books would have expected surprises from the moment Ned Stark was beheaded. But I'd say the biggest surprise till now would be the fate of Cercei in the 5th book... one thing I liked about season 3 was how they made the scenes of Brienne a but interesting because IMO her scenes in the book were so boring as to make people sleep. Have to say that the author has done an incredible job of creating brilliant twists in this series while weaving such a complex storyline comprising so many different Houses/Empires :hatsoff:
as for me biggest surprise people will get is about Tywins death at the hand of Tyrion , afterwards Cercie fate wont become big surprise.
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GEORGE R.R. MARTIN HAS A NEW NOVELLA COMING OUT, AND IT’S ABOUT THOSE CRAZY, CRAZY TARGARYENS

Are you a fan of George R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire series? If so, do you like the Targaryens? If so, here, have some good news: George R.R. Martin is releasing a novella about the Targaryen Civil War in an upcoming anthology called Dangerous Women. Called The Princess and the Queen, Martin describes it as the “true (mostly) story of the origins of the Dance of the Dragons.” If you need a quick refresher on the history of Westeros, the Dance of the Dragons took place several hundred years before the start of Game of Thrones and centered around Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen and her half-brother Prince Aegon II. Their father put in his will that Rhaenyra should succeed him, but Aegon was crowned instead, kicking off a bloody civil war that involved dragons, death, treachery, and boatloads of bat-guano craziness. I’m making an assumption on that last one, but… c’mon, it’s the Targaryens. “Madness and greatness were two sides of the same coin and every time a new Targaryen was born, the gods would toss the coin in the air and the world would hold its breath to see how it would land.” If at least three people don’t get burned alive I’m going to be very let down. Martin’s Dangerous Women story was originally going to be a fourth Dunk & Egg novella about the history of Winterfell, but I guess we’ll have to wait a bit longer for that. Other stories in the anthology will include Cecelia Holland‘s Nora’s Song, about Eleanor of Aquitaine; Bombshells, by Dresden Files writer Jim Butcher; and an Outlander novella by Diana Gabaldon. The entire table of contents can be found on Martin’s blog. Though at first this news had me positively aflame, I’ve somewhat cooled off since. A novella about Rhaenyra Targaryen sounds amazing, but… George, isn’t there something else you should be writing? Some larger undertaking a lot of people want you to finish in the next few years? Like a book or something?
http://www.themarysue.com/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-targaryen-novella/ just 4 months to go for its release :aha:
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In “The Princess and The Queen, or, The Blacks and The Greens,” George R. R. Martin gives us a Westerosi history lesson on the Targaryen Civil War.

THE PRINCESS AND THE QUEEN, OR, THE BLACKS AND THE GREENS Being A History of the Causes, Origins, Battles, and Betrayals of that Most Tragic Bloodletting Known as the Dance of the Dragons, as set down by Archmaester Gyldayn of the Citadel of Oldtown ((here transcribed by GEORGE R.R. MARTIN))

The Dance of the Dragons is the flowery name bestowed upon the savage internecine struggle for the Iron Throne of Westeros fought between two rival branches of House Targaryen during the years 129 to 131 AC. To characterize the dark, turbulent, bloody doings of this period as a “dance” strikes us as grotesquely inappropriate. No doubt the phrase originated with some singer. “The Dying of the Dragons” would be altogether more fitting, but tradition and time have burned the more poetic usage into the pages of history, so we must dance along with the rest. There were two principal claimants to the Iron Throne upon the death of King Viserys I Targaryen: his daughter Rhaenyra, the only surviving child of his first marriage, and Aegon, his eldest son by his second wife. Amidst the chaos and carnage brought on by their rivalry, other would-be kings would stake claims as well, strutting about like mummers on a stage for a fortnight or a moon’s turn, only to fall as swiftly as they had arisen. The Dance split the Seven Kingdoms in two, as lords, knights, and smallfolk declared for one side or the other and took up arms against each other. Even House Targaryen itself became divided, when the kith, kin, and children of each of the claimants became embroiled in the fighting. Over the two years of struggle, a terrible toll was taken of the great lords of Westeros, together with their bannermen, knights, and smallfolk. Whilst the dynasty survived, the end of the fighting saw Targaryen power much diminished, and the world’s last dragons vastly reduced in number. The Dance was a war unlike any other ever fought in the long history of the Seven Kingdoms. Though armies marched and met in savage battle, much of the slaughter took place on water, and... especially... in the air, as dragon fought dragon with tooth and claw and flame. It was a war marked by stealth, murder, and betrayal as well, a war fought in shadows and stairwells, council chambers and castle yards with knives and lies and poison. Long simmering, the conflict burst into the open on the third day of third moon of 129 AC, when the ailing, bedridden King Viserys I Targaryen closed his eyes for a nap in the Red Keep of King’s Landing, and died without waking. His body was discovered by a serving man at the hour of the bat, when it was the king’s custom to take a cup of hippocras. The servant ran to inform Queen Alicent, whose apartments were on the floor below the king’s. The manservant delivered his dire tidings directly to the queen, and her alone, without raising a general alarum; the king’s death had been anticipated for some time, and Queen Alicent and her party, the so-called greens,* had taken care to instruct all of Viserys’s guards and servants in what to do when the day came. *In 111 AC, a great tourney was held at King’s Landing on the fifth anniversary of the king’s marriage to Queen Alicent. At the opening feast, the queen wore a green gown, whilst the princess dressed dramatically in Targaryen red and black. Note was taken, and thereafter it became the custom to refer to “greens” and “blacks” when talking of the queen’s party and the party of the princess, respectively. In the tourney itself, the blacks had much the better of it when Ser Criston Cole, wearing Princess Rhaenyra’s favor, unhorsed all of the queen’s champions, including two of her cousins and her youngest brother, Ser Gwayne Hightower. Queen Alicent went at once to the king’s bedchamber, accompanied by Ser Criston Cole, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Once they had confirmed that Viserys was dead, Her Grace ordered his room sealed and placed under guard. The serving man who had found the king’s body was taken into custody, to make certain he did not spread the tale. Ser Criston returned to White Sword Tower and sent his brothers of the Kingsguard to summon the members of the king’s small council. It was the hour of the owl. Then as now, the Sworn Brotherhood of the Kingsguard consisted of seven knights, men of proven loyalty and undoubted prowess who had taken solemn oaths to devote their lives to defending the king’s person and kin. Only five of the white cloaks were in King’s Landing at the time of Viserys’s death; Ser Criston himself, Ser Arryk Cargyll, Ser Rickard Thorne, Ser Steffon Darklyn, and Ser Willis Fell. Ser Erryk Cargyll (twin to Ser Arryk) and Ser Lorent Marbrand, with Princess Rhaenyra on Dragonstone, remained unaware and uninvolved as their brothers-in-arms went forth into the night to rouse the members of the small council from their beds. Gathering in the queen’s chambers as the body of her lord husband grew cold above were Queen Alicent herself; her father Ser Otto Hightower, Hand of the King; Ser Criston Cole, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard; Grand Maester Orwyle; Lord Lyman Beesbury, master of coin, a man of eighty; Ser Tyland Lannister, master of ships, brother to the Lord of Casterly Rock; Larys Strong, called Larys Clubfoot, Lord of Harrenhal, master of whisperers; and Lord Jasper Wylde, called Ironrod, master of laws. Grand Maester Orwyle opened the meeting by reviewing the customary tasks and procedures required at the death of a king. He said, “Septon Eustace should be summoned to perform the last rites and pray for the king’s soul. A raven must needs be sent to Dragonstone at once to inform Princess Rhaenyra of her father’s passing. Mayhaps Her Grace the queen would care to write the message, so as to soften these sad tidings with some words of condolence? The bells are always rung to announce the death of a king, someone should see to that, and of course we must begin to make our preparations for Queen Rhaenyra’s coronation—” Ser Otto Hightower cut him off. “All this must needs wait,” he declared, “until the question of succession is settled.” As the King’s Hand, he was empowered to speak with the king’s voice, even to sit the Iron Throne in the king’s absence. Viserys had granted him the authority to rule over the Seven Kingdoms, and “until such time as our new king is crowned,” that rule would continue. “Until our new queen is crowned,” Lord Beesbury said, in a waspish tone. “King,” insisted Queen Alicent. “The Iron Throne by rights must pass to His Grace’s eldest trueborn son.” The discussion that followed lasted nigh unto dawn. Lord Beesbury spoke on behalf of Princess Rhaenyra. The ancient master of coin, who had served King Viserys for his entire reign, and his father Jaehaerys the Old King before him, reminded the council that Rhaenyra was older than her brothers and had more Targaryen blood, that the late king had chosen her as his successor, that he had repeatedly refused to alter the succession despite the pleadings of Queen Alicent and her greens, that hundreds of lords and landed knights had done obesience to the princess in 105 AC, and sworn solemn oaths to defend her rights. But these words fell on ears made of stone.

http://www.tor.com/stories/2013/07/dangerous-women-george-r-r-martin-excerpt
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@fans of Game of Thrones - check out "Tales of Dunk & Egg" - Tales of Dunk and Egg is a series of novellas written by George R. R. Martin, set in the world of his Song of Ice and Fire cycle. Three novellas have been published so far: The Hedge Knight, The Sworn Sword and The Mystery Knight. The stories relate the adventures of Dunk (eponymously called Ser Duncan the Tall, a legendary member of the Kingsguard before the time of A Song of Ice and Fire) and Egg (the nickname of Aegon V Targaryen, a prince of Westeros, who would later become the king and protector of the realm) beginning with their meeting eighty-nine years before the events of the main cycle and intended to cover a long period. torrent link to the book - http://kickass.to/george-r-r-martin-the-tales-of-dunk-egg-a-game-of-thrones-prequel-first-three-stories-epub-mobi-t7193544.html

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Became a massive fan of James Lannister after this season.
he becomes better as time progresses with his
father dead
......... btw I recently visited some old ruins in England. Game of Thrones seems to be the War of Roses with some magic thrown in. In general, House Tygarean -- Welsh Royal Family/ dragon / dragonstone The Reach----- South East England The North---- Northern England. Especially Yorkshire. Actors especially have northern accents. The Stormlands--- East of England Kings Landing---- London Drone --- South West England (especially for the oiddish culture) Beyond the wall /wildlings---- Scotland. cant place the Iron Islands--- could be /northern Ireland. Cant say.
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he becomes better as time progresses with his
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......... btw I recently visited some old ruins in England. Game of Thrones seems to be the War of Roses with some magic thrown in. In general, House Tygarean -- Welsh Royal Family/ dragon / dragonstone The Reach----- South East England The North---- Northern England. Especially Yorkshire. Actors especially have northern accents. The Stormlands--- East of England Kings Landing---- London Drone --- South West England (especially for the oiddish culture) Beyond the wall /wildlings---- Scotland. cant place the Iron Islands--- could be /northern Ireland. Cant say.
Beyond the wall /wildlings---- Scotland
. Wow!! The locations are so effing fabulous.
I din't know that spoiler :mad: but have heard it before :P
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I mean look at the parallels. Look at the map of Westeros. Looks like England Scotland and Wales straightened out vertically. The locations are basically Croatia for the Essos Daenareys part and northern Ireland for the westeros part. Most of the actors are British and I have seen these guys on TV in the UK (barring the young actors) for a good part of a decade. Especially Lady Kat. There are also more subtle hints. Anglo saxons basically came to the UK from a part of Germany. They fought the celtic people (first men in GOT). In GOT the Andals (came from Andalus (Germany mainland europe) and took on the first men (Celtic). Most of the religion in GOT of the Andals is basically part of Norse mythology (read Scandinavia)

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I mean look at the parallels. Look at the map of Westeros. Looks like England Scotland and Wales straightened out vertically. The locations are basically Croatia for the Essos Daenareys part and northern Ireland for the westeros part. Most of the actors are British and I have seen these guys on TV in the UK (barring the young actors) for a good part of a decade. Especially Lady Kat. There are also more subtle hints. Anglo saxons basically came to the UK from a part of Germany. They fought the celtic people (first men in GOT). In GOT the Andals (came from Andalus (Germany mainland europe) and took on the first men (Celtic). Most of the religion in GOT of the Andals is basically part of Norse mythology (read Scandinavia)
Most of the actors are British and I have seen these guys on TV in the UK (barring the young actors) for a good part of a decade. Especially Lady Kat.
I have read about this. They asked for Brits, not only due to the accent but they have got the best actors around, IMO.
There are also more subtle hints. Anglo saxons basically came to the UK from a part of Germany. They fought the celtic people (first men in GOT).In GOT the Andals (came from Andalus (Germany mainland europe) and took on the first men (Celtic)
. Sweet ! thanks for this. Where did you read all this?
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