Desi Cartman Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Dalai Lama once said' date=' "Indians are lazy, and must work hard like the Chinese". May not be true in other areas (or may be it is true..lol), but seems that Indians are lazy and lack a competitive culture in sports.[/quote'] Dalai lama forgot to add that "Chinese violate human rights and thats why Im in India" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Dalai lama forgot to add that "Chinese violate human rights and thats why Im in India" :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Brah' date=' but that's voluntary by the kids parents living in open, just, democratic, having excellent human rights records country like Peoples Republic of China..[/quote'] You forgot Democratic People's Republic of Korea being advocated by Sree_North_Korea. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 You forgot Democratic People's Republic of Korea being advocated by Sree_North_Korea. :hysterical: My Mishtake.. :(( What a silly mishtake.. Ofcourse it is DEMOCRATIC PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA.. Also am HAPPY about the HAPPY videos of Chinese training.. I'll banish the thoughts of how many secret police minders were behind the camera or maybe the the cameraman himself.. :icflove: You might be living in USA. What do you know about China? Have ever tried to visit Hongkong and eat their street food? If not that you don't know about China and you don't have any right to criticise them.. You're just jealous of them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The doping accusation made against the Chinese swimmer was shameful. Doping should be confirmed by tests not idle speculation. the western media does act with an agenda against China at times. However, it is also quite obvious that the Chinese government has tied the number of medals it achieves to national pride and prestige. And they wouldnt let physical abuse get in the way. Though the parents are not forced to send their kids, there are enough incentives to tempt most parents to do so, even at the cost of the suffering of their children. North Korea doing well at olympics is a similar case where a government has decided to aggressively pursue medals spending tons of money and turning a blind eye to physical abuse to achieve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The US and the UK are real life equivalents of dumb and dumber, Asterix and Outsider are ideally placed to exchange notes with each other Didn't know they were so caring about human rights, I thought they were too busy either 1) Nuking countries or 2) Threatening to nuke countries :(( Fancy that, bringing (supposed) human right violations to excuse their sorry ass performances when they themselves are amongst the worst violators in the world :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaku Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Bache tou jab dekho rote hi rehte hai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Bache tou jab dekho rote hi rehte hai Aaku please train our next generation of olympians by standing on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Bache tou jab dekho rote hi rehte hai tumhaare bachche :omg: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 PRC didn't compete in Olympics until 1984 LA where they won 15G (without Russian bloc). Since then with all countries their gold medal tally is on the rise exception of 1988 where they won only 5G. Without a sporting culture, there is only one way to explain this rise. Govt controlled measures have been successful. Incentives to parents to keep their mouth shut and children being pushed without any consideration of their rights. Medals by Summer Games Games Gold Silver Bronze Total 1952 Helsinki 0 0 0 0 - 1984 Los Angeles 15 8 9 32 4 1988 Seoul 5 11 12 28 11 1992 Barcelona 16 22 16 54 4 1996 Atlanta 16 22 12 50 4 2000 Sydney 28 16 14 58 3 2004 Athens 32 17 14 63 2 2008 Beijing (host) 51 21 28 100 1 Total 163 117 105 385 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjabi_khota Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 This behavior fits in with everything else China does man. Everything on grand scale, all rules can bent to show the world it means business. I know it is rather simplistic to say, but they are compensating for something. :secret: India has obviously the opposite problem, where the babus handling the sport ministry etc. couldn't care less about how India is perceived at world stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Aaku please train our next generation of olympians by standing on them Aaku will create a family of Olympic gold medalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 PRC didn't compete in Olympics until 1984 LA where they won 15G (without Russian bloc). Since then with all countries their gold medal tally is on the rise exception of 1988 where they won only 5G. Without a sporting culture, there is only one way to explain this rise. Govt controlled measures have been successful. Incentives to parents to keep their mouth shut and children being pushed without any consideration of their rights. Medals by Summer Games Games Gold Silver Bronze Total 1952 Helsinki 0 0 0 0 - 1984 Los Angeles 15 8 9 32 4 1988 Seoul 5 11 12 28 11 1992 Barcelona 16 22 16 54 4 1996 Atlanta 16 22 12 50 4 2000 Sydney 28 16 14 58 3 2004 Athens 32 17 14 63 2 2008 Beijing (host) 51 21 28 100 1 Total 163 117 105 385 Don't waste your breath - I've wasted enough - these guys were seriously proposing sporting culture in China as a reason why this has happened. The high LA count is also because of the boycott from the Western Block in retaliation for the Moscow boycott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Don't waste your breath - I've wasted enough - these guys were seriously proposing sporting culture in China as a reason why this has happened. You're naive enough to believe that it is only sporting culture why US usually tops the medal tally every year? How about all the medals that were stripped from US athletes for doping? What about all the coaches who were given orders to dope their athletes so the US can win more medals? Did your beloved sporting culture decide to take a vacation than? Couldn't have chosen a more convenient time And to think, this country has the nerve to preach to others. What a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 More tears from the US: The coach accuses a Chinese swimmer of cheating with no evidence! Sour grapes, much? :(( http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/30/ye-shiwen-world-record-olympics-2012?newsfeed=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 This behavior fits in with everything else China does man. Everything on grand scale, all rules can bent to show the world it means business. I know it is rather simplistic to say, but they are compensating for something. :secret: India has obviously the opposite problem, where the babus handling the sport ministry etc. couldn't care less about how India is perceived at world stage. They approach their olympic quest just like they do business. Officials are given a carte blanche with access to vast resources and asked to produce results. Good behavior is rewarded heavily and bad behavior is penalised swiftly. The ones who are able to produce better results (by hook or by crook) keep getting promoted in the system and the ones who arent keep going down. This kind of system is effective, as they have shown in the last 15-20 years, but whether its sustainable is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nballa Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 time will come when these kids realize that there is no reward for winning a gold medal in their country because 100 others already have there is no government reward. name the guy from india who won the gold last olympics. almost everyone can now name someone from china who won a gold in the last olympics, none remembers or cares so i'd say we stick to keep producing one or two medals every olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 time will come when these kids realize that there is no reward for winning a gold medal in their country because 100 others already have there is no government reward. name the guy from india who won the gold last olympics. almost everyone can now name someone from china who won a gold in the last olympics, none remembers or cares so i'd say we stick to keep producing one or two medals every olympics The entire process is fulled by the reward system of the government so its safe to say that the prize money will never go down. They wont get the kind of fame that the athletes get in India because we win so few medals, but the people of China take pride in the volume of medals they achieve and not necessarily celebrate the individual medal winners. If anything, the desire to get more medals will only increase and they will try to leave the rest of the world behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The entire process is fulled by the reward system of the government so its safe to say that the prize money will never go down. They wont get the kind of fame that the athletes get in India because we win so few medals' date=' but the people of China take pride in the volume of medals they achieve and not necessarily celebrate the individual medal winners. If anything, the desire to get more medals will only increase and they will try to leave the rest of the world behind.[/quote'] World dominance..who will they show the collected gold medal count to ? Aliens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 The entire process is fulled by the reward system of the government so its safe to say that the prize money will never go down. They wont get the kind of fame that the athletes get in India because we win so few medals' date=' but the people of China take pride in the volume of medals they achieve and not necessarily celebrate the individual medal winners. If anything, the desire to get more medals will only increase and they will try to leave the rest of the world behind.[/quote'] They have already left the world perturbed with 0 in 1952, no participation for 32 years, and then #1 in 2008 that too happened in a span of just 26 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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