King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Good odi player. Decent bowler, fielder and batsman for odis. A good bits and pieces player. But we must not confuse this with thinking he is a test player. His bowling is not good enough nor batting good enough. This would be classic case of picking a player in format he is not suited. It is same as picking yuvraj or raina for tests, great odi players but not suited to the higher examantion of test cricket. And believe me test cricket is a higher examantion of technique and mental strength. Jadeja can't play quailty short of length bowling or good pace or good swing bowling. Nor can raina or yuvraj frankly, although they are still better bats then jadeja. Jadejas bowling is also defo not good enough. Nice stock bowler/containment bowler in odis but in tests does not get the turn / bounce or variation needed. Just not good enough. We must pick players and groom a test team that has players who can deliver not just at home but in overseas conditions as well. Jadeja will be brutally exposed in bouncing/moving tracks overseas. In fact he may well be exposed at home as well, like in only test against england. Keep him away from test team! Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Agreed but what makes you say he isn't a good batsman? 1 innings and a peach from Anderson, would have troubled anyone. I wouldn't mind benching him in home game. Should be no where near the team in oversees. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Agreed but what makes you say he isn't a good batsman? 1 innings and a peach from Anderson, would have troubled anyone. I wouldn't mind benching him in home game. Should be no where near the team in oversees. I have seen loads of him in odis and other games. Seriously hates in when banged in and some serious pace even pitched up. Just does not have the tools for the highest level, no matter how many triples he gets. His bowling is also no way near good enough. I am scared he is going to be regular in test team, he may just about do ok at home against aussies. Then from there he will in team for overseas tour and be horrendous Link to comment
Spiderguy252 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If he's picked for the series and scores even a random fifty, he'll make it on the plane later in the year to Saffrica, where Steyn and Philander'll deal with him bigtime. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I have seen loads of him in odis and other games. Seriously hates in when banged in and some serious pace even pitched up. Just does not have the tools for the highest level' date= no matter how many triples he gets. His bowling is also no way near good enough. I am scared he is going to be regular in test team, he may just about do ok at home against aussies. Then from there he will in team for overseas tour and be horrendous You are talking about some time ago when he used to struggle against short ball. In the only test innings he batted, he got a great ball from Anderson and got out lbw. He has improved playing against short pitch bowling recently as he did well in ODI series in England. He looks a much improved bowler and batsmen recently. Dont judge players and write them off without giving them opportunities. Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 He adds balance says kaptaan :dontknow: Link to comment
Spiderguy252 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 He adds balance says kaptaan :dontknow: :cantstop: Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 He adds balance says kaptaan :dontknow: To be fair captain cool was talking about odis. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 He adds balance says kaptaan :dontknow: He adds balance to his bed. Ashwin on one side and Jaddu on the other. Don't get me started with where Raina might be. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 He adds balance to his bed. Ashwin on one side and Jaddu on the other. Don't get me started with where Raina might be. ashwin is heavier the jaddu.. fail theory Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ashwin is heavier the jaddu.. fail theory I'm talking about a bed not a scaling meter. :whack: Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'm talking about a bed not a scaling meter. :whack: bed might break Link to comment
Lord Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ashwin is heavier the jaddu.. fail theory nah..Jaddu's hair compensate for Ashwin's paunch Link to comment
Tendulkar_Bhai Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 His weakness with quick deliveries slightly short into the body is the same as most of the other batsman, however I dont think he will even be effective in ODI's outside India/SC, never mind in tests where his name shouldnt be branded! Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 He'll be brutally exposed in away ODIs as well. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 To be fair captain cool was talking about odis. No he wasn't. Didn't you read his comments after the Nagpur test? Link to comment
kubrickian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 He'll be brutally exposed in away ODIs as well. Scored 78 against England at the Oval after his comeback. But he is a late order batsmen who generally has to slog at the death overs and often gets out cheaply in doing so. If he has a few overs to play himself in, he will do a much better job. He did a good job overseas as a spinner which is very tough because pitches are not conducive to spin. Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Econ Opposition 9.0 0 42 2 4.66 v England Oval 10.0 0 41 1 4.10 v Sri Lanka Perth 10.0 0 50 0 5.00 v Australia Adelaide 10.0 0 43 0 4.30 v Sri Lanka Brisbane 9.0 0 43 1 4.77 v Sri Lanka Hobart Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Scored 78 against England at the Oval after his comeback. But he is a late order batsmen who generally has to slog at the death overs and often gets out cheaply in doing so. If he has a few overs to play himself in, he will do a much better job. He did a good job overseas as a spinner which is very tough because pitches are not conducive to spin. 9.0 0 42 2 4.66 v England Oval 10.0 0 41 1 4.10 v Sri Lanka Perth 10.0 0 50 0 5.00 v Australia Adelaide 10.0 0 43 0 4.30 v Sri Lanka Brisbane 9.0 0 43 1 4.77 v Sri Lanka Hobart Cherry picking a few innings does not change the fact that he averages 40 with the ball in England and 109, yes that's right ONE HUNDRED AND NINE in Australia. And he averages 16, yeah that's right SIXTEEN with the bat in Australia. And he averages 3.5 in West Indies, yeah that's THREE POINT FIVE. One fluky 78 does not change these facts nor does pasting some bowling figures where he took 2 wickets at most. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Cherry picking a few innings does not change the fact that he averages 40 with the ball in England and 109' date=' yes that's right ONE HUNDRED AND NINE in Australia. And he averages 16, yeah that's right SIXTEEN with the bat in Australia. And he averages 3.5 in West Indies, yeah that's THREE POINT FIVE. One fluky 78 does not change these facts nor does pasting some bowling figures where he took 2 wickets at most.[/quote'] Spinners generally struggle overseas. But with experience, he will get better. Ashwin struggled as well. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 No he wasn't. Didn't you read his comments after the Nagpur test? Not that closley no. I hate listening to him. Link to comment
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